Value of: Caps Off Season after another 1st Round exit player values

[CapsFrontOffice]

I know most of the Capitals fan base will not agree with this but personally I believe the Caps should make drastic changes in the off season.

Players who will be available in my scenario are.

Backstrom 9.2 mil per season to 25'-26' (missed half the season) ((6 goals, 21 a in 37 games))
Carlson 8 mil per season to 26-27' ( 13g, 46a in 66 games)
Oshie 5.75 mil per season to 25-26' (8g, 13a in 32 games) (Injury prone)
Lars Eller 3.5 mil per season to 23-24' 9g, 14a in 60 games
Dimitri Orlov 5.1 mil per season to 23-24' 10g 19a in 66 games (never has been utilized properly by Caps management)
Either Samsonov or Vanecek both RFA's (Hershey is already making preparations for one of this two to be traded)

Johansson, Schultz and Kempny should not be re-signed

No I do not care about keeping the Caps core intact to appease Ovie during his record chase. If anything Ovie owes Caps fans a few more cups and he has been compensated greatly via his contracts. He also has had more than enough opportunities with this core who has only managed to cash in once.

Backstrom coming off of his injury is a gamble at this point. Common sense tells you he is going to decline and is already showing signs of decline. Anyone want to take a chance on him? You won't be getting a steal deal for him but I wonder if the Caps could even trade him if they wanted to at this point.

Carlson? anyone want to take a chance on him. If you have a stacked team he may add value but throw him on a mid tier team Carlson's fame will disappear quicker than you can say "Mike Green" or "Karl Alzner" I could see him excelling in Tampa, Florida, Toronto, Edmonton or Colorado. Outside of that I doubt he will provide the value to teams with out super stars.

Oshie great energy for the locker room, is still pretty good but skates like a princess and has been injured most of his career. A lot of it is just having a low hockey IQ, immaturity and skating like a princess and not keeping his head up on the ice. I would place more value on him than Backstrom at this point if he could stay healthy.

Lars Eller - The gas tank appears to be running low for him? Would a change of scenery help him? Any takers? He is still solid but don't expect him to stand out

Orlov - Orlov is a solid stay at home defense that some times shows he can get a bug up his but and show some good offense. A lot of times I feel like the Caps coaching systems hold him back. A mid tier team who's system would let Orlov shine to his full potential could really gain from having him. Any teams chasing the cup who would let him off his leash could really utilize his untapped potential.

Obviously the Caps would be looking for players to surround Ovie with but will entertain draft picks.

This is about as an honest opinion on Caps players that you will get from a Caps fan.

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[Hivemind]

Zero chance that the organization trades Backstrom, and the same reasons that you're interested in trading him are the reasons why other organizations wouldn't make a competitive offer for Backstrom, either. The only way out of Backstrom's contract at this point is LTIRment.

Orlov should not be available. It's not the Capitals responsibility to put Orlov in a position to become a #1 D (offensively). He's more than filled his role as the defensive and transition bedrock of the Caps defense for the past several years, and still provides great contract value in that role.

 

[SecretaryofDefense5]

None of what the OP said will happen. This is a waste of time even breaking down.

 

[Hivemind]

None of what the OP said will happen. This is a waste of time even breaking down.

Lars Eller should and will be gone, at the very least.

 

[CapsFrontOffice]

Zero chance that the organization trades Backstrom, and the same reasons that you're interested in trading him are the reasons why other organizations wouldn't make a competitive offer for Backstrom, either. The only way out of Backstrom's contract at this point is LTIRment.

Orlov should not be available. It's not the Capitals responsibility to put Orlov in a position to become a #1 D (offensively). He's more than filled his role as the defensive and transition bedrock of the Caps defense for the past several years, and still provides great contract value in that role.

I know you are right and I figured this much. Just wanted to validate. Considering this the first response I guess we are stuck hoping he retains form or goes LTIR early.

 

[CapsFrontOffice]

None of what the OP said will happen. This is a waste of time even breaking down.

It could if the fans make enough noise but I know everyone is stuck in their feelz

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

So, trade away the aging and injured, or the struggling….What value are you expecting here?

Only Orlov and Carlson hold strong value….IMO….so..this feels like a blow up the team quest….

 

[johnsic]

I think Caps should trade Hagelin, Mantha and Samsonov and trade for a quality #1 goalie and a young quality top4 defender. Caps should promote Snively, Protas, Lapierre and AJF to first team.

Maybe something like

Gibson for Samsonov+1st round pick
Power for Lapierre/McMichael+AA+Mantha

 

[AlexModvechkin8]

Can we at least wait until they lose in the first round to make this thread?

 

[markog]

None of what the OP said will happen. This is a waste of time even breaking down.

Agree and that includes first round exit, they'll beat Florida if they get average goaltending.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

None of what the OP said will happen. This is a waste of time even breaking down.

you think both goalies will be kept?

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

if Samsonov does hit the market I would be interested, Much like Blackwood I do believe that talent is there and he's only 25 if he gets moved to the right situation he could solidify a teams goaltending from the next 15 years333333 he just needs the right fit.

 

[5 14 6 1]

If anything Ovie owes Caps fans a few more cups and he has been compensated greatly via his contracts.

Well this is a take.

The greatest goal scorer of all time who won your team it's first ever Cup owes you something, while you sit behind your keyboard.

 

[MarkusKetterer]

I think Caps should trade Hagelin, Mantha and Samsonov and trade for a quality #1 goalie and a young quality top4 defender. Caps should promote Snively, Protas, Lapierre and AJF to first team.

Maybe something like

Gibson for Samsonov+1st round pick
Power for Lapierre/McMichael+AA+Mantha

That last one definitely isn’t happening. No matter who “AA” is.

 

[StephenPeat]

Well this is a take.

The greatest goal scorer of all time who won your team it's first ever Cup owes you something, while you sit behind your keyboard.

Man this is going underrated.

Probably the single stupidest take I’ve ever seen on this site which is extremely impressive. The Caps these days seem to have a few fans that need to take a couple laps.

 

[StephenPeat]

you think both goalies will be kept?

Right now neither of them is playing themselves into any kind of contract that the Caps walk away from so, Yes, I can certainly see the possibility that the Caps retain both and hopefully hire a competent goalie coach.

Certain Caps fans have soured on Samsonov and the team seems to keep him on a leash. I haven’t seen signs the Organization is going to give up on a former 1st Rd talent until they’re forced to.

 

[Asymmetric Solution]

I think Caps should trade Hagelin, Mantha and Samsonov and trade for a quality #1 goalie and a young quality top4 defender. Caps should promote Snively, Protas, Lapierre and AJF to first team.

Maybe something like

Gibson for Samsonov+1st round pick
Power for Lapierre/McMichael+AA+Mantha

Not sure there’s anything on the Caps I’d move Power for.

 

[StephenPeat]

That last one definitely isn’t happening. No matter who “AA” is.

Better question; who’s “Power?”

 

[The Hockey Tonk Man]

Stopped reading after skates like a princess

 

[DJN21]

Not sure there’s anything on the Caps I’d move Power for.

Wilson+

 

[DJN21]

Better question; who’s “Power?”

ummmmmm

 

[I am Canadian]

Better question; who’s “Power?”

Owen Power Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com

Statistics of Owen Power, a hockey player from Mississauga, ONT born Nov 22 2002 who was active from 2018 to 2024.

www.hockeydb.com

 

[SecretaryofDefense5]

Right now neither of them is playing themselves into any kind of contract that the Caps walk away from so, Yes, I can certainly see the possibility that the Caps retain both and hopefully hire a competent goalie coach.

Certain Caps fans have soured on Samsonov and the team seems to keep him on a leash. I haven’t seen signs the Organization is going to give up on a former 1st Rd talent until they’re forced to.

Not a chance in hell Sammy is the starter next year and very doubtful he is back.