Speculation: Canucks will be very very busy this off-season- Will your team have interest in these players?

[UrbanImpact]

New management team itching to dismantle this stale core and will have more flexibility to do so in the summer: Some possible fireworks to keep an eye out for this summer.

-JT Miller re-signing or trade. Smart that Vancouver will wait until off-season to decide on Miller. More teams will be in on the sweepstakes if they do decide to move him. Canucks could retain too. What would even be the return for JT Miller at 2.6 mil AAV.

-If Canucks re-sign Miller then I can definitely see Horvat being available. Again, there would be a lineup of teams that would want a guy like Horvat who is in the middle of his prime

- Boeser RFA staus. Trade him? Sign him? Could probably return something similar to what Rakell got

-Garland- great contract, might be the most move-able asset. 25 yrs old. Lots of teams interested at the deadline, many will be interested in off-season if available

- Myers and Pearson. Their full not trade clause becomes a partial no movement clause in the summer-(10 teams no trade list). We know there will always be interest in Big, Right Shot Dman that can skate. Its the unicorn of the NHL. heck even Hamonic got a 3rd.

- Hoglander- I can see this young stud getting traded for a similar young Dman. I think Canucks will regret it in the future if they moved on from Hoglander.

I predict that the Canucks will be the busiest NHL team this off-season and that their opening lineup come October will be much much different from the team we see today.

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[Boondock]

Well there is a lot to be done if the Canucks really want to be relevant. I just lack all faith in management. Yes this is primarily because of the past 8 years of clear managerial ineptitude, but this trade deadline didn't do anything to make me think this management group is going to have fresh and unique ways of shedding contracts, improving the pro team and improving the farm team. I like the Hamonic for Dermott swap (I know this wasn't the deal, but trade one for a 3rd get a 3rd for the other in trade. Basically a swap). But this move freed up $1.5 in cap but Dermott needs to be re-signed so if he gets a deal for more than his current $1.5, than that's even less cap space earned. Then they traded the Canucks best bottom 6 forward for a 4th. I understand most of the issues are from the previous group but I don't see the way out of this mess without several years of missing the playoff and the way the Canucks core is currently structured, 2 years of missed playoffs would sure impact the teams ability to maintain a competitive core when the rest of the team is finally in place.

 

[UrbanImpact]

Well there is a lot to be done if the Canucks really want to be relevant. I just lack all faith in management. Yes this is primarily because of the past 8 years of clear managerial ineptitude, but this trade deadline didn't do anything to make me think this management group is going to have fresh and unique ways of shedding contracts, improving the pro team and improving the farm team. I like the Hamonic for Dermott swap (I know this wasn't the deal, but trade one for a 3rd get a 3rd for the other in trade. Basically a swap). But this move freed up $1.5 in cap but Dermott needs to be re-signed so if he gets a deal for more than his current $1.5, than that's even less cap space earned. Then they traded the Canucks best bottom 6 forward for a 4th. I understand most of the issues are from the previous group but I don't see the way out of this mess without several years of missing the playoff and the way the Canucks core is currently structured, 2 years of missed playoffs would sure impact the teams ability to maintain a competitive core when the rest of the team is finally in place.

With the surgery that needs to be done to the current roster, the trade deadline was never the place and time for that to happen.

I'm sure alot of the groundwork and trade negotiations have been laid out though and when we hear of the trades this summer, they will express that conversations started before the trade deadline.

Hamonic for Demott was an amazing trade especially since we didnt give up assets or retain.

Motte went for market value which wasnt as high as we thought with the fan base but thats fine, the worst move would have been re-sigining him to a 2mil+ contract rather than just taking the 4th rnd pick.

Summer will be the time for this management team to leave it imprint.

 

[nowhereman]

Well there is a lot to be done if the Canucks really want to be relevant. I just lack all faith in management. Yes this is primarily because of the past 8 years of clear managerial ineptitude, but this trade deadline didn't do anything to make me think this management group is going to have fresh and unique ways of shedding contracts, improving the pro team and improving the farm team. I like the Hamonic for Dermott swap (I know this wasn't the deal, but trade one for a 3rd get a 3rd for the other in trade. Basically a swap). But this move freed up $1.5 in cap but Dermott needs to be re-signed so if he gets a deal for more than his current $1.5, than that's even less cap space earned. Then they traded the Canucks best bottom 6 forward for a 4th. I understand most of the issues are from the previous group but I don't see the way out of this mess without several years of missing the playoff and the way the Canucks core is currently structured, 2 years of missed playoffs would sure impact the teams ability to maintain a competitive core when the rest of the team is finally in place.

How many teams can you recall blowing up their roster at trade deadline day? Teams are up against the cap, trying to add expiring deals and small tweaks. You're allowing the frustration of the last decade to fuel your impatience.

 

[UrbanImpact]

MY prediction

Miller - Traded
Myers- Traded
Hoglander- Traded for young Dman
Boeser Traded

Core moving forward

Pettersson
Hughes
Horvat
Garland
Podkolzin
Demko

Of course some of the returning players from the trades will also be part of the core as Van has expressed they arent as interested in draft picks as they are with young high potential nhl ready players.

 

[Boondock]

With the surgery that needs to be done to the current roster, the trade deadline was never the place and time for that to happen.

I'm sure alot of the groundwork and trade negotiations have been laid out though and when we hear of the trades this summer, they will express that conversations started before the trade deadline.

Hamonic for Demott was an amazing trade especially since we didnt give up assets or retain.

Motte went for market value which wasnt as high as we thought with the fan base but thats fine, the worst move would have been re-sigining him to a 2mil+ contract rather than just taking the 4th rnd pick.

Summer will be the time for this management team to leave it imprint.

I will need to see it before I'm willing to accept that this group has the ability to rebuild this roster in a reasonable amount of time. People gave Benning the benefit of the doubt of 4 years before people started calling for his head. I wasn't expecting an entire tear down rebuild this deadline, but i was hoping to see something that indicated a new approach, an ability to think unconventionally to address the teams concerns. Sure the Hamonic deal was good, but we all said the same thing about the Tanner Pearson trade.

 

[Boondock]

How many teams can you recall blowing up their roster at trade deadline day? Teams are up against the cap, trying to add expiring deals and small tweaks. You're allowing the frustration of the last decade to fuel your impatience.

I wasn't expecting a blow up tear down rebuild in one day, but so far there has been lots of talk and a lot less action. I'm not impatient either, I was hoping to see something that indicated that this management group was capable of unconventional or outside of the box thinking (retain for a better return, go after a unsigned college draftee, be the team that gets the throw in pick on a deal instead of being the team that always adds the throw in pick). I will hold off judgement for now, but as far as this deadline goes, I was hoping we would see a fresh take on team building and that hasn't shown itself yet.

 

[Boondock]

How many teams can you recall blowing up their roster at trade deadline day? Teams are up against the cap, trying to add expiring deals and small tweaks. You're allowing the frustration of the last decade to fuel your impatience.

Montreal just got a low end roster player and a 2nd round pick for Kulak - Canucks got a 4th for Motte. Motte may have only been worth a 4th, but there's a very strong argument that Kulak was only worth a 4th too.

 

[AHLdepth]

Am I the only one who really appreciated this deadline from a Canucks perspective? We got younger, got draft picks, shed cap, bolstered a blue line. Was it everything we were hoping for based in the RABID Vancouver media filling out heads with ideas of grandeur? No, but there are so many factors at play here.

The Jekyll/Hyde nature of this team. When Rutherford took over we were bottom of the barrell and a prime candidate for a teardown. Since we have looked like one of the better teams (record wise) and were pushing hard for a playoff spot, and only in the last 7 or so games have we stumbled into mediocrity. Kind of handcuffs your ability to judge where a team is at.

Management may have said they have evaluated the team, but they simply haven't had enough time to do a deep dive on where we are. After this deadline they now have a much better sense of the true value of guys we may look to move, a sense of teams that are "next level" interested, and who is only tepid in interest, and also a better sense of what may actually be available in return.

Best not to rush into things, get the assessment of the team right first, and then in the offseason you are better equipped to move the direction you want.

 

[Gstank]

Man a lot of our Fans are deillusional about how many trades are actually going to happen to the core of this teams. There will be 1 maybe 2 big trades. Anyone who is expecting 5 big trades is just setting themselves up for disappointment

 

[belair]

If I'm the Canucks, the guy I'm shopping in the offseason is Elias Pettersson.

If there's any hint of truth to the Rangers losing patience with Lafreniere, there's an opportunity for JR/Allvin to completely reset the clock on a core that is going to take a number of years to retune and get setup in a manner that's financially sustainable. There's potential for a blockbuster deal that could net them a number of pieces that could put them closer to where they want to be as a team.

I know what Pettersson is capable of, but his trajectory and contract structure should be very concerning to them. His next contract is in the $8m+ range three years from now and he may not have the same lustre when he's ready to sign it.

The value he holds on the market today is far, far higher than any of Boeser, Miller or Horvat.

 

[unicornpig]

it was a sellers market and they didn't sell on anyone....

 

[Tact]

Any teams interested in OEL?

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Man a lot of our Fans are deillusional about how many trades are actually going to happen to the core of this teams. There will be 1 maybe 2 big trades. Anyone who is expecting 5 big trades is just setting themselves up for disappointment

Very true. Threads like these always end up being so dumb.


At most you see 2 guys get moved out.... More likely 1(Miller after he refuses to sign an extension, and for a lot less then OP thinks).

 

[Mr Kot]

If I'm the Canucks, the guy I'm shopping in the offseason is Elias Pettersson.

If there's any hint of truth to the Rangers losing patience with Lafreniere, there's an opportunity for JR/Allvin to completely reset the clock on a core that is going to take a number of years to retune and get setup in a manner that's financially sustainable. There's potential for a blockbuster deal that could net them a number of pieces that could put them closer to where they want to be as a team.

I know what Pettersson is capable of, but his trajectory and contract structure should be very concerning to them. His next contract is in the $8m+ range three years from now and he may not have the same lustre when he's ready to sign it.

The value he holds on the market today is far, far higher than any of Boeser, Miller or Horvat.

If Petterson goes then they should load up on the 2023 draft. Though I doubt Petterson is considered.

 

[BayStBullies]

Trade it all to Ottawa for 3x their deserved return.

 

[milehigh11]

Pending on how the Avs do this year they will be calling. our entire 2nd line are free agents.. Dont think they will bring back any of them. I do think they will bring back Nichushkin but he should really be on the 3rd line and 2nd if there are injuries

Really need a center that can win faceoffs. Garland would be tremendous as he is made for playoff hockey.

 

[SmokeyDuck]

I could see the Ducks interested in taking Myers contract off your hands. Verbeek likes big defensemen.

 

[Love]

What they should do is trade Boeser and Miller (if Miller doesn’t want to re-sign).

What they probably will do is trade Garland and Hoglander.

 

[Thechozen1]

Jets have a surplus of young defensemen. As a Hoglander fan, I’d be open to exploring trade scenarios to see what can work for both teams.

 

[TheHelmet]

The only thing I learned from this deadline

That Vancouver Media is toxic as hell with rumors.

My god, the names they floated, they had about 75% of the "Trades and feee agent talk" page with speculation.

 

[Troublesome 85]

Garland and Schenn to the Bruins

 

[M2Beezy]

The only thing I learned from this deadline

That Vancouver Media is toxic as hell with rumors.

My god, the names they floated, they had about 75% of the "Trades and feee agent talk" page with speculation.

Yep. After 8 years of Benning destroying our team we were excited to have "Trader" Jim Rutherford in charge of the team to clean up the Benning years of disaster. But so far not much well the local media was dropping fake bombs all day every day. Emotional rollercoaster for many Canucks fans thats for sure

That been said I cant really judge the new regime until some time next season. They were actually pretty quiet during this TDL but will probably make some significant changes in the summer, and we will see where it leads. As a fan its time for us to be patient til we see some sort of new plan tho many of us were just dying to see something get done, understandably

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

MY prediction

Miller - Traded
Myers- Traded
Hoglander- Traded for young Dman
Boeser Traded

Core moving forward

Pettersson
Hughes
Horvat
Garland
Podkolzin
Demko

Of course some of the returning players from the trades will also be part of the core as Van has expressed they arent as interested in draft picks as they are with young high potential nhl ready players.

I think Miller is being kept, though. He's been a stellar player, perhaps the best player, for the team this season.

 

[SKNJD9]

Devils and Vancouver will hook up this offseason