Proposal: Canucks Trades

[canuckslover10]

These are the trades I think the canucks should make to positively impact the long term success of the franchise.

To DALLAS- Alex Edler 5M for 3 years

To VANCOUVER- 2017 1st round pick Antii Niemi 4.5 million and roope hintz (2nd round pick 49 overall) if hintz is a tough pull to get maybe a lower level prospect or a 2nd in 2018 or 2017

you get rid of that contract of niemies and get edler to solidify the defense whle canucks get much needed picks.

on to the 2nd trade

To Edmonton-Janik hansen 2.5 million for 2 years

To Vancouver - 2nd round pick and griffin Reinhart

Solidifies forward group and adds versatility for them for a fair price I now alot of people are going to say edmonton needs to spend assets on defense but you arent going to get a top 4 dman for a 2nd and reinhart janik brings much needed versatility and depth if you guys are legit about making the playoffs this season.

To Nashvile- the sedins 50% retained 7 million for two more years

To vancouver- 2017 1st 2018 1st Mike riberio

I think the canucks do lose this trade but it starts the rebuild sort of like when calgary traded iginla but i think we are getting some really good value with 2 1St and reberio for cap reasons.


just what I would do i am curious of what you guys think especially from the other teams.

EDIT took out the Tampa and LA sort of hit me how ludicrous it was as for the rest I think there is at least a base to work around these deals that can positively impact both teams.

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[Kingspiracy]

You're dreaming with the matt greene trade.

 

[canuckslover10]

You're dreaming with the matt greene trade.

I was under the impression that he was a cap dump

 

[Hansen]

Damn when did Granlund become worth Filpulla and a 1st

 

[Kingspiracy]

I was under the impression that he was a cap dump

He is, if he stays healthy. He'll probably end up on ltir before christmas.

LA can't afford to move picks and prospects unless its for youth.

 

[lanceuppercut75]

This is all just my opinion obviously...


Dallas probably says yes to the Edler deal and then trades Oleksiak (plus) for a goalie right after. What kind though... a backup or Ben Bishop? I don't know what their cap permits and if Nill thinks they can climb in the standings.

Edmonton doesm't need a middle six RWer bad enough to pay that much for Hansen AFAIK (Eberle Puljujarvi Kassian... Slepyshev? etc). Are they interested for less? Maybe.

Kings are doing terrible... only way they're gonna MAYBE maybe maybe give you a 2nd and 3rd to dump Greene now is if they aren't Kings picks, which wil be high picks. If they wait until the offseason, they can do a buyout or dump his one year deal way way easier.

Nashville might be interested in the Sedins, but they can't just add $7 million and 2 top six forwards. They would have to trade Ribeiro and a costly winger (Wilson? Smith?) to make it all work.

Tampa would likely be very interested to get a younger cheaper center like Granlund for Filppula. As long as Filppula isn't looking amazing right now. They're contending and don't wanna fix what ain't broke. Even then, they might say no right now and then call you back about it the offseason. EDIT - I thought it was one for one and didn't see the first rounder. Yzerman puts Benning on speaker phone and asks him to repeat himself. Everybody listens and laughs and then Yzerman hangs up.

 

[Tatar Shots]

Ugh wow... the LA, Edmonton, and Tampa trades are absolutely brutal for those teams.

 

[mikeyp24]

^if you actually value Griffin Reinhart then maybe the edm but he's basically a major bust that is trying to be salvaged into a 7 or top pairing AHL player. Hansen is a top teir 3rd line guy. Great PK with soft scoring touch. Haven't seen much of him since I stopped living in VAN a few monthes out of the year but I doubt he's dropped off a cliff over half a season or so.

The LA one is basically a cap.dump from what I'm reading and they actually get a 2nd if the Canucks make the playoffs. Unlikely but still if LA is hard on cap giving up 1 pick this year and 1 next isn't terrible. The Tampa one I agree that seems like a pretty 1 sided deal.

 

[canuckslover10]

I see I'm getting flack for filpulla aND a 1st for grandlund this is a move basically so they have cap space and cap space is worth a lot but what if we make that grandlund and van 2018 2nd which would be most likely 31st for filpulla and tbl 1st this would be vital for tbl because they get cap space and it's not like you are paying a super premium you guys have one of the best prospect pools in the league it would add depth for the future for you guys

 

[canuckslover10]

I Might change the LA deal as I think everyone thinks this as a lost season for the kings but I personally thought the added space would benifet the kings plus they are only giving up a 2nd in 2017 and a 3rd in 2018 as I thought Matt Greene was a cap dump 2017 is supposed to be a weak draft so I thought that would make the deal possible plus you guys have to sign some players by the end of the season and I thought 2.2 million would have helped.

 

[NeoCanuck]

I'm sorry you clicked on this thread, HFBoards.

 

[canuckslover10]

This is all just my opinion obviously...


Nashville might be interested in the Sedins, but they can't just add $7 million and 2 top six forwards. They would have to trade Ribeiro and a costly winger (Wilson? Smith?) to make it all work.
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Well ribeiro Wilson and smith all have value they could easily get traded for picks or prospects at the tdl straight away or even the draft even though riberios contract is up this season

 

[skyo]

I'm sorry you clicked on this thread, HFBoards.

Yup we the Canucks fans disown - refuse to acknowledge or maintain any connection with this thread.

 

[canuckslover10]

I'm sorry you clicked on this thread, HFBoards.

LOL its 3 am and I'm bored I thought might as well give it a shot

 

[Paulinvancouver]

These are the trades I think the canucks should make to positively impact the long term success of the franchise.

To DALLAS- Alex Edler 5M for 3 years

To VANCOUVER- 2017 1st round pick Antii Niemi 4.5 million and roope hintz (2nd round pick 49 overall) if hintz is a tough pull to get maybe a lower level prospect or a 2nd in 2018 or 2017

you get rid of that contract of niemies and get edler to solidify the defense whle canucks get much needed picks.

on to the 2nd trade

To Edmonton-Janik hansen 2.5 million for 2 years

To Vancouver - 2nd round pick and griffin Reinhart

Solidifies forward group and adds versatility for them for a fair price I now alot of people are going to say edmonton needs to spend assets on defense but you arent going to get a top 4 dman for a 2nd and reinhart janik brings much needed versatility and depth if you guys are legit about making the playoffs this season.

on to the third trade

To Los Angles- Future Consideration condition being if the canucks make the playoffs they get a 2nd

To Vancouver- matt greene and 2017 3rd

Just gives the La kings much needed cap space. Edit (took out 2nd)

on to the 4th trade

To Nashvile- the sedins 50% retained 7 million for two more years

To vancouver- 2017 1st 2018 1st

I think the canucks do lose this trade but it starts the rebuild sort of like when calgary traded iginla but i think we are getting some really good value with 2 1st still.

and on to my last trade

To Tampa Bay Markus grandlund 2 years at 900k and a 2017 2nd probably 31st this was an edit after some complaints

To Vancouver filppula 2 years at 5million and 1st in 2017

this trade makes sense because this gives money to sign both johnson and palat easily.

Also sign david jones , Tyler Kennedy , jiri tlusty, tuomo ruttuu to league minimum 1 year deals

sven baertschi Bo Horvat Loui Eriksson
valteri flipulla Brandon Sutter Anton rodin
David Jones Brendan Gaunce Jiri Tlusty
Alexandre Burrows Tyler Kennedy Jack Skille
tuomo Ruttu( Virtanen to the ahl)
Buy out dorsett
Ben Hutton - Chris Tanev
Greene (offside)- Gubranson
tryamkin-larsen
sbisa

markstrom
Niemi

easily a top 4 pick for the canucks and the year after this another top 5 pick probably
but this would give us picks 2017-Van 1st round pick, Nsh 1st round pick, dallas 1st round pick, TBL 1st round pick, Edm 2nd round pick, , Maybe dallas 2nd depending if dallas fans want Hintz or not, Van 3rd, LA 3Rd, and a van 7th

then in 2018 Van 1st, NSH 1st, Van 2nd, Dallas 2nd depending which pick they want to give or if they would rather giver Hintz, Cbj 2nd cause torterella most likely 2018 coud be 2017, Van 3rd, Van 4th , Van 5th, Van 6th, and a Van 7th

thats a possible 6 1st , 4/5 2nds, 4 3rds, 1 4th, 1 5th , 1 6th , and 2 7ths in the next 2 years compared to

2 1sts, 2 2nds, 2 3rds, 2 4ths, 1 5th, 1 6th , and 2 7ths.


just what I would do i am curious of what you guys think especially from the other teams.

Lol I want what this guys smoking

 

[Old Guy]

Ugh wow... the LA, Edmonton, and Tampa trades are absolutely brutal for those teams.

I'm not here to flame or incite. I just was passing by and saw the thread. The quote above is correct. The majority of other posters are correct. What the OP is proposing is wishful thinking. You are really asking those teams to accept less than FMV to pull Vancouver back from the abyss. That just will not happen.

We fans are allowed to discuss ways to make the teams we love better (coaching, line combos, trades, drafting, etc.) But much of what you propose is just unrealistic. Vancouver is simply not dealing from a position of strength. They need to hold on to the picks they have, trade a couple players at the deadline to acquire a couple more. Then wash, rinse, repeat for a couple years. Good luck.

 

[ffh]

I didn't know Nashville has 7 mill in cap space left.

 

[canuckslover10]

Well I took out a few trades seeing that they were unfair and one sided a

 

[canuckslover10]

I didn't know Nashville has 7 mill in cap space left.

LOL I was looking at cap friendly and read next year's projected cap space and it's at 19 million I believe

 

[M2Beezy]

I like the idea of the Nashville trade. What i like is for ideas to really start swurling around trading the Sedins. If they are still valued esp if we RETANE on them then wow that could really help out the future. I guess wed have to take on more salary from the Preds but I would be crazy happy if that could somehow work out

 

[Leafs87]

I could see the Preds being interested in both Sedins at 7 mill but I don't know it they consider Ribiero a cap dump. Also two firsts back to back in the cap world is not something teams take lightly

 

[ginner classic]

I could see the Preds being interested in both Sedins at 7 mill but I don't know it they consider Ribiero a cap dump. Also two firsts back to back in the cap world is not something teams take lightly

After the expansion draft trading the Sedins will be realistic, provided they'd want to move. Retaining 50% of their salaries is do-able. Won't happen, but it is possible. Nashville, Ottawa, St Louis and the Islanders are the teams I would focus on.

Some crazy ideas after the expansion draft:

New York Islanders
Sedins (no retention) for Bailey, Kulemin, Halak and ????? Thinking - The Islanders have a window that coincides with the expiration of Tavares' cheap contract. They are encumbered with some brutal contracts in Grabovski (concussion), Kulemin, Halak and Bailey that preclude competing. Taking two or three of those contracts back could net some very compelling young assets. The Sedins would push the Islanders into contender territory immediately. We could absorb Halak next year as a useful asset to back up Markstrom which gives Demko another year to develop and results in another potential trade asset at the deadline. Bailey could also generate some interest next deadline.

Ottawa
Sedins 50% retained for ???? Thinking - Probably a better fit for an Edler deal, but the Sedins contract duration match the expiration of Turris' cheap deal and the end of Anderson's contract.

St Louis
Sedins 50% retained for Perron and ???? Thinking - Berglund (UFA) and Perron's salaries would match the Sedins retained salary. Sedin, Stastny and Lehtera and center would give them enough to compete for a cup.

Nashville
Sedins 50% retained for ???? Thinking - Fisher and Ribeiro come off the books this off-season. Nashville could use some backup for RJ. In reality though, their problems (incredibly) are in net and on defence (third pairing). I like them better as a destination for Edler.

Of all of those....a deal with the Islanders next June would be pretty compelling.

 

[canuckslover10]

I could see the Preds being interested in both Sedins at 7 mill but I don't know it they consider Ribiero a cap dump. Also two firsts back to back in the cap world is not something teams take lightly

Ribeiro so not a cap dump just pointing out that a deal cant be done without cap coming back as for the 2 1st 2 straight years I think it is easily worth it imagine if you could get 2/3 of your 1st line with just 2 1sts and Ribiero

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

So you want another team to bail the canucks out ... you will need to be more generous

 

[canuckslover10]

So you want another team to bail the canucks out ... you will need to be more generous

Well it's not a 1 way street these teams would be benefiting as well