No thanks to Zib.I had posted something at the Rs trade board re jt miller + for zib +++
now the Hronek injury creates a real urgency and a new dynamic
as we know, JT Miller is taking time off despite being productive and supposedly it is b'c he is at odds w/Elias Petterssen
Zib has lost it; not sure if it is concussions or what but he once had chemistry w/Kreider and it is now invisible
the thinking is if Swedes EP and Mika Z played together, it could work out and given this + VAN is a legit cup contender, MZ would waive
there is risk with either or 2 primary pieces, similarly priced 8.5 MZ and 8 per JTM.
there is more risk for VAN than NY so Rs have to compensate
RD Schneider is normally not available
howev, getting Miller for Zib, full pop both ways, and other benefits would be enuf to do this
Zib + Schneider + Jones (good skater upgrade on Erik B) + Vesey
for
Miller + Raty + Juulsen + a pick
thoughts?
thanks for substantiating it came from somewhere and was not made upIt's from a nothing article using Bissonnette of all people who claims he's heard "rumors" of "ruffled feathers" between Miller and Pettersson.
Just pure speculation, especially with the news Hronek is injured apparently long-term.
Look at our right side of the defence:
Yikes
We need top 4 RD and 2C or even just a top 6 F, I doubt Joker brings back anything like that. So I don't think Buffalo and Vancouver are not good trade partners at this point. If we got a top 4 RD somewhere else, then Joker would probably be available for pick.I wonder if there's a forward Buffalo would be interested in for a swap with Joker.
That Zib contract is looking like it could be an anchor sooner than later, 100% passdon't remember exactly where/who it was another poster on our board
you'll note I didn't say it was official and that it was "supposedly"
if ya wanna get exact language and go to the trades thread at our board and go back scores of posts and dozens or how many # of pages til you find it, be my guest
I took it at face value
obv it is clear Miller has taken a leave of absence for 'personal reasons'
if that is something else
then obv
nucks have less incentive to make this deal
although Schneider is not otherwise available and would cost
I hope it's for K'Andre Miller. He doesn't play the right side, but he plays left. Left his position, left his man, left the puck, you name it. If there's something to be left undone, KAM is your man.
I would have Lekkerimaki on the table.The trouble is everyone and their grandma wants a top 4 right shot D. Hronek being injured longterm really puts Vancouver over a barrel, especially considering their D wasn't great to start with.
Adding the wrinkle of wanting someone young (24-28?), already a bonafide top 4 D, and controllable - as in having some term left... I mean, that's gonna cost. Hoglander is a fine player but if you want someone that's not a stopgap, I think you're going to need to put more than a guy Tocchet hates (that has five points) and picks on the table.
We need top 4 RD and 2C or even just a top 6 F, I doubt Joker brings back anything like that. So I don't think Buffalo and Vancouver are good trade partners at this point. If we got a top 4 RD somewhere else, then Joker would probably be available for pick.
JR-Allvin can have Pettersson and Rust. Dump whatever cap back and picks and "D-Petey."We need top 4 RD and 2C or even just a top 6 F, I doubt Joker brings back anything like that. So I don't think Buffalo and Vancouver are good trade partners at this point. If we got a top 4 RD somewhere else, then Joker would probably be available for pick.