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Nucker101
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Nice deal for the Jets, he's been great next to Morrissey.
Just A Bit Outside
Playoffs??!
- Mar 6, 2010
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For the $$$Tanev is gonna want and his durability issues he is an easy pass.
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Ugh, as much as I don't want to part with Mikheyev, you may have to make that sacrifice to trade for Guenztel's rights.
Oh Guentzel doesn’t want to sign here? Darn. No backsies.
Florida and Edmonton both didn’t have the most punishing defense cores and relied on cohesiveness, speed and movement. Love Zadorov but no need to drop $5M+ on him. In fact, he’s probably going to get like $6M based on this market lol
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Similar to us asking our UFAs for discounts, this is one of those situations where we can credibly play the sentiment card for players, beyond just monetary value of contracts.
With playoff's end, Mr. Clean can get going. First item on the agenda, call Mik and politely tell him to go f*** himself.
Demelo contract a good litmus test for the upcoming market.
Seems like any of those Top-4 RHD are 5-6MM for sure (Roy, Walker, Tanev).
Seems like any of those Top-4 RHD are 5-6MM for sure (Roy, Walker, Tanev).
sting101
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Walker is not a decent top4 wouldn't pay him more than 3.5
Tanev as good defensively as he is a no show in the offensive zone. Anything above 4 and with term is gonna be bad
Roy is a really good underrated shut down defenseman. Of these 3 he's the one who you can pay like DeMelo and be happy about. Kings letting him walk will have yet another hole to fill especially if Clarke and Spence are supposed to help an aging Doughty.
Tanev as good defensively as he is a no show in the offensive zone. Anything above 4 and with term is gonna be bad
Roy is a really good underrated shut down defenseman. Of these 3 he's the one who you can pay like DeMelo and be happy about. Kings letting him walk will have yet another hole to fill especially if Clarke and Spence are supposed to help an aging Doughty.
Latest 32 Thoughts Summary:
Blue Jackets:
-Todd Nelson on Waddell's radar as their next head coach
Ullmark Trade:
-under the impression that unless Ullmark gets the extension he wants, he will go to UFA
-a manager called him and told him that the media got the story wrong; he doesn't believe that the Senators were on Ullmark's on NTC
-heard there were a couple of other teams in the mix; assumes Carolina was one
Coyotes:
-got a text during the game that this was going on
-will become an expansion franchise
McGroarty:
-was told to be ready for a trade before the draft
-talks broke down after they wouldn't add him to the roster last year and told him he would have to compete for a spot this year
-great deal of interest in him
-teams were already in conversation with the Jets before it went public
Flyers:
-Michkov scared off teams last year
-Michkov made it very clear he wanted to play for the Flyers
-something was going on with Ottawa but not sure if that's going to happen now
-thinks the Konecny talks have gone slower than both sides would have liked
Guentzel:
-a lot bubbling under the surface
-some really good teams that you wouldn't think can sign him are trying to figure out how they can make a pitch for him
-wonders about the Kings
-mentions the Hurricanes
-really doesn't know that the Canucks can pull this off
-teams might need to perform some surgery
-doesn't know about Vegas but they need to plan for an Eichel extension
-don't be surprised if a team you're not expecting tries to trade for his rights to see what it's going to take and what surgery they have to do
Jarry:
-was told there was someone else available and figured out they meant Jarry
-health is the big concern
-something going on out there
Libor Hajek:
-looking to make a return to the NHL
Blue Jackets:
-Todd Nelson on Waddell's radar as their next head coach
Ullmark Trade:
-under the impression that unless Ullmark gets the extension he wants, he will go to UFA
-a manager called him and told him that the media got the story wrong; he doesn't believe that the Senators were on Ullmark's on NTC
-heard there were a couple of other teams in the mix; assumes Carolina was one
Coyotes:
-got a text during the game that this was going on
-will become an expansion franchise
McGroarty:
-was told to be ready for a trade before the draft
-talks broke down after they wouldn't add him to the roster last year and told him he would have to compete for a spot this year
-great deal of interest in him
-teams were already in conversation with the Jets before it went public
Flyers:
-Michkov scared off teams last year
-Michkov made it very clear he wanted to play for the Flyers
-something was going on with Ottawa but not sure if that's going to happen now
-thinks the Konecny talks have gone slower than both sides would have liked
Guentzel:
-a lot bubbling under the surface
-some really good teams that you wouldn't think can sign him are trying to figure out how they can make a pitch for him
-wonders about the Kings
-mentions the Hurricanes
-really doesn't know that the Canucks can pull this off
-teams might need to perform some surgery
-doesn't know about Vegas but they need to plan for an Eichel extension
-don't be surprised if a team you're not expecting tries to trade for his rights to see what it's going to take and what surgery they have to do
Jarry:
-was told there was someone else available and figured out they meant Jarry
-health is the big concern
-something going on out there
Libor Hajek:
-looking to make a return to the NHL
Updated the Transaction Tracker with the latest trades and contracts. Updated the original post with some slight changes to important dates. June 30th is the QO date and the end of the upcoming buyout period.
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Bourdon
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Anyone posting us getting 2 or 3 of the top defenseman in UFA are not living in reality. Hey, let’s get Roy, or Demelo over Zadorov! Debrusk and Marchessault over Guentzel.
Those players would actually need to want to sign with you over every other team. If a player is actually interested in your team, you have to do your best to see if it works or not.
You wanna improve your team without giving up assets? Well you have to accept that certain contracts will have risks attached to it.
Those players would actually need to want to sign with you over every other team. If a player is actually interested in your team, you have to do your best to see if it works or not.
You wanna improve your team without giving up assets? Well you have to accept that certain contracts will have risks attached to it.
TruGr1t
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Damn, nice deal on DeMelo, I'd call that around probably a ~10% discount on what he could have potentially gotten at market. AFP had him at $5.3M AAV. For reference, have Matt Roy at $5.8M AAV and Carrier at $4M AAV. Tanev at $4.5M AAV and Myers at $3.1M AAV.
Mr. Canucklehead
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31 yr old Demelo @ 5mil....damn...nice contract for him
Makes me feel even better that we got Hronek signed for all of his prime years at 7.2mil.
Makes me feel even better that we got Hronek signed for all of his prime years at 7.2mil.
Rumours persist that Lindholm will become a Boston Bean on July 1st.
Too bad the Canucks won't use the power of the 8th year to resign him.
It will be intriguing to see the moves they make to compensate.
So much for adding to last years' roster.
Too bad the Canucks won't use the power of the 8th year to resign him.
It will be intriguing to see the moves they make to compensate.
So much for adding to last years' roster.
TruGr1t
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That's not all that old in this free-agent class. Most of the guys are 29+ on the right side except for Carrier. Tanev and Myers are obviously even older and they'll easily get the contracts they want.
It takes 2 to tango.
Why would Boston give up assets when they know they have Lindholm pretty much signed sealed and delivered?
Maybe they dont want to sign Lindholm to 8 yrs... Maybe they only want 5-6 yr contract.
If we miss out on Guentzel....id rather go through the trade avenue to try and obtain a top 6 winger rather than settling for old slow farts like Tyler Tofolli.
As per usual, the playoffs this year once again showed us that its all about speed speed speed.
Ehlers please.
As per usual, the playoffs this year once again showed us that its all about speed speed speed.
Ehlers please.
I wouldn't look at it as a 3rd pairing guy 5M to slide up in case of injuries, I'm just saying you need 3-4 defensemen other than Hughes-Hronek who can put in 17-19 minutes per game. My point is that we're happy to pay a second line forward (for example) 5M but balking at that cost for a player who is on the ice more than the forward, and maybe we need to re-assess that valuation.
StickShift
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The one team that scares me in a Guentzel sweepstakes is Vegas. They have very few quality wingers if Marchessault leaves. Stone is running out of gas. And Vegas seems to appeal more than any other market to star players.
I could also see Colorado get involved if they are pessimistic about Nichuskin or Landeskog’s availability.
And I could see Dallas get creative with their salary cap if they wanted to get involved.
I could also see Colorado get involved if they are pessimistic about Nichuskin or Landeskog’s availability.
And I could see Dallas get creative with their salary cap if they wanted to get involved.
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