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[rypper]

not sure if this has been posted

"I think he was all about coming..."

 

[Snatcher Demko]

That's funny. This trade reminds me of the posters tearing their hair out at acquiring Toffoli because it was such a sure thing that Madden was an important part of our future.

Now, how they subsequently handled Toffoli was a tire fire. But perhaps this is a reminder to carry our opinions a little more lightly, particularly about players we haven't actually watched 'but PROSPEKTZ'.

It could have been a great trade and Toffoli signed for peanuts.

 

[dbaz]

"I think he was all about coming..."

 

[andora]

Yet the Canucks haven't dressed Hughes for the past two games, to their own detriment.

Tkachuk is only 25, a little young to be afflicted with CTE.

I think when you're born with it it's called something else

 

[God]

oops wrong thread

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

Most posters here valued Madden as a late first. So the Canucks gave up a first and second, while being out of the playoffs, for a playoff rental. That’s why the trade was criticized. Ultimately Madden busted, but Toffoli walked too if you are going to use hindsight to evaluate the trade.

But ultimately, how posters here 'value' a guy doesn't matter that much because there is so much we don't know and part of winning a trade is understanding either the asset you are dealing or acquiring better than the other team.

So we traded him as a 'second rounder' value asset, but perhaps our brain trust already had misgivings about him and time has proven them right.

It's like the age old shit about how we 'sold low' on Shinkaruk because we 'only' got Granlund.

And while Granlund was of negligible value and was a JAG in the NHL, Shinkaruk was a 'never was'.

Yet I have seen many posters calling that trade a loss because of THEIR perceived valuation of Shinky despite time showing them to be incorrect.

There is just so much info we don't have as message board posters.

I provided the stats because they are in line with how he also looks. Does anyone really think that Boeser currently looks better than a 50-60 point winger? I don’t.

And I totally get that he’s in a tough situation right now, given the low event system Tochett plays, and given that he doesn’t have an elite centre to currently play with. But neither of those things may change anytime soon.

And at the end of the day, it all comes down to money and term. But I expect he’s going to want to get paid closer to his year last year than this year. If he was willing to do the opposite (which makes no sense for him) then I think a fair deal could be had.

With all that said, I do get the thought of re-signing Boeser because we hope to have an elite centre that he can play well with like he did with Miller. But it’s a big risk to take.

Lastly, where are you getting those non-Miller numbers? I thought it was like 6 or 7 points in 8 games which admittedly isn’t bad.

I think the confusion is I was replying about Pettersson and saying that he was a lot better last game than his stat line suggested. I wasn't talking about Boeser.


For the record, I love Boeser, but if he wants big money and term, I think we should deal him and turn around and use those assets on a younger player and focus on signing Ehlers in the off season if possible. Our team needs to continue to get faster and Boeser doesn't provide that.

If he's reasonable, he can absolutely stay. But this isn't a place to be stuck with a slowish player getting slower due to nostalgia.

 

[Jerry the great]

"I think he was all about coming..."

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the intro of this song is my ring tone

 

[aight]

the intro of this song is my ring tone

I am pretty sure they played that song multiple times a night every night at Barfly. Anyone else count that place as your first drinking home?

 

[wonton15]

Trade Garland!!!

 

[arttk]

Trade Garland!!!

Sell high!

 

[hotshot1]

This team is missing a heart and soul type number 1 centre who can make plays, is tough, and can match up with the opposing team's best players

 

[ManVanFan]

Trade Garland!!!

9 points in his previous 30 games. Lol.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

This team is missing a heart and soul type number 1 centre who can make plays, is tough, and can match up with the opposing team's best players

RYAN O REILLY

 

[David71]

4 more games after tonight until the deadline. clock is ticking on boeser. i say hes gone then suter. 50/50 on soucy

 

[Bleach Clean]

For someone who has exploded this: Can they re-sign Boeser at $8m AAV and bring in Norris at $8m AAV while removing Hoglander and Soucy?