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[Phrasing]

I still think top priority has to be defense in the form of an upgrade ie somehow offloading Myers and finding a better fit. I don’t know if there is a solution that allows for defensive upgrade.

 

[krutovsdonut]

Wut?

it's just a running joke i have been making for a while now. as between two otherwise equal candidates, being either a former penguin or swedish significantly improves your chances of becoming a canuck with the new regime, so anyone fitting one of those categories deserves extra scrutiny as a potential trade/ufa/call up (or draft pick if you are swedish). same thing with russians on a smaller scale.

lindholm
friedman
lafferty
desmith
cole
blueger
amans

among the benning legacy prospects we have hoglander and karlsson as the players who are getting roster time.

3 of our 4 top draft picks under rutherford/allvin are swedish and we traded the fourth.

willander
lekkerimaki
ep2

our other significant roster level acquisitions are russian, red wings or soucy, who has the granato connection that equates to a pens connection.

not sure red wings is common enough to be a trend, but i am fine with it so far.

 

[krutovsdonut]

and i missed joshua.

 

[ziploc]

I wonder if, given the rumors that the Canucks have been interested in Greenway all year, the Canucks might have interest in Pat Maroon? Cheap contract, boatload of playoff experience, big body that's tough to handle. I imagine he'll be going to a playoff team, but wonder if the Canucks may have interest as a rental to finish out the year.

Wow, I had no idea Maroon was still alive.

 

[wonton15]

I wonder if, given the rumors that the Canucks have been interested in Greenway all year, the Canucks might have interest in Pat Maroon? Cheap contract, boatload of playoff experience, big body that's tough to handle. I imagine he'll be going to a playoff team, but wonder if the Canucks may have interest as a rental to finish out the year.

Absolutely hate the guy, but this is the type of gritty heavy veteran depth we need. I’d do it.

 

[UrbanImpact]

Dont think we are done. Here's my prediction

- We are moving Myers for a pick
- We are trading for another Dman to improve the Myers spot
-Getting another Deppth Dman
-Adding another top 6 winger. Someone under the radar like a Mantha, Silverberg, Zucker, Pacriotty

 

[ziploc]

Dont think we are done. Here's my prediction

- We are moving Myers for a pick
- We are trading for another Dman to improve the Myers spot
-Getting another Deppth Dman
-Adding another top 6 winger. Someone under the radar like a Mantha, Silverberg, Zucker, Pacriotty

I would love it if Myers was moved for some kind of return, but I have lost hope in that. It seems like he is loved in the room and is still valued on the ice. Unless they have a replacement RD in place on a deal I can't see them moving him, and even if they did it would be a ballsy move that could upset the team's morale.

 

[UrbanImpact]

My deadline wishlist:

To Ottawa
Tyler Myers

To Van
4th round pick


- - -- - - - - - - -

To Seattle
Podkolzin
2025 2nd round pick

To Vancouver
Adam Larsson

- - - - - - - - - - - - -

To Washington
2024 3rd round pick
Linus Karlsson

To Vancouver
Anthony Mantha


My Playoff lineup

Suter- Miller- Boeser
Mantha-Pettersson- Lindholm
Joshua-Bleuger-Garland
Mikhayev- Lafferty- Hoglander
PDG/Aman

Hughes Hronek
Soucy-Larsson
Cole- Zadorov
Juulsen

Demko
DeSmith

 

[Nucker101]

I really hope people aren't holding their breath for these elaborate 3-5 step trade ideas when it's much more likely the team is offering a meh prospect + mid round pick for an affordable depth RHD or winger who fits the Tocchet mold.

 

[Wisp]

Who says hockey trades can't be done. Net trade results over the last year. I'd say that's a pretty good exchange overall, while managing the cap.

In	Out
Lindholm	Horvat
Hronek	Kuzmenko
Zadorov	Pearson
Raty	Brzustewicz
DeSmith	Schenn
Lafferty	Studnicka
Friedman	Lockwood
Glover	Rathbone
Cicek	Lazar
Kravtsov	Stillman
Bloom	Plasek
	Jurmo
Picks
	1st
	2nd
3rd	3rd
4th	4th
4th	5th
5th	5th
6th	7th

They've moved something like 13 million in inefficient cap in this season alone.

Granted, Kuzmenko's contract was correcting their own error. And of cours, the OEL buyout. Still a Piper to pay on that, but it had to be done and took some spine.

but like a far cry from the roster paralysis we experienced and feared perpetuating.

 

[Bleach Clean]

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This is what I threw together quickly. Podkolzin may not make the roster, so that's potential money to play with. We can waive PDG or sent Aman down as well.

Of course, the big factor here is whether Lindholm willing to stay in the 7M-ish range. That's a pretty steep drop from his supposed 9M ask from Calgary but there's no chance we sign him at that price. I'm also assuming Pettersson and Hronek don't squeeze every possible cent out of us. I didn't trade Mikheyov, so that could open up options if we find a taker.

And yes, I signed Myers. While I'd prefer to put that money elsewhere. I'm pretty certain they want him back. So long as it's 3M or less, I think we can stomach it. Don't see any scenario we sign Zadorov. At least not if he's chasing 5M+.

All in all, we can afford to pay everyone a little more than what I listed them at but we, ideally, don't have to. If the cap hits are more reasonable, we really only need to let Cole and DeSmith walk. Maybe Lafferty too.

This all assumes a 87.7M cap.

Good to see. You're almost there while still retaining Mikheyev and bringing back Myers. Garland is still there as well. That's their leeway.

They can make it work with Lindholm. They just have to move out at least 1 high priced middle-6 winger. Also, whether it's Myers returning or another RHD making $3m per, that is an expected salary allocation for that spot.

 

[Szechwan]

I'm pretty sure the team is quite happy with Myers this season, I don't think he's going. If we can bump him down to the 3rd pairing full time, that would be ideal.

 

[Bleach Clean]

I still think top priority has to be defense in the form of an upgrade ie somehow offloading Myers and finding a better fit. I don’t know if there is a solution that allows for defensive upgrade.

I don't think they offload Myers. They'll offload Zadarov instead. If they could somehow translate NZ into Sean Walker, that offers redundancy on the right side beyond Myers (perhaps even an upgrade).

I'm watching WSH. They've got 4 RHDs and have either shifted TVR to the left side or pushed Bear into the pressbox. Maybe they would want a Left side Dman like Zadarov? Interesting times.

 

[Wisp]

I hate to get superstitious, but keep thinking the Canucks need to pay the price for Tanev for the existential good karma. Last member of the 2010-11 cup run still in the league.

 

[iceburg]

They've moved something like 13 million in inefficient cap in this season alone.

Granted, Kuzmenko's contract was correcting their own error. And of cours, the OEL buyout. Still a Piper to pay on that, but it had to be done and took some spine.

but like a far cry from the roster paralysis we experienced and feared perpetuating.

Yes Kuzmenko's contract was their own doing. They took a gamble that he could develop his defensive game. Even if he became adequate at that aspect of the game, his offensive chops were there and deserving of the contract. And arguably he was an asset that added value to the trade. Maybe the trade doesn't get done if it's Hunter B, a late 1st, Jurmo and a 4th.

The willingness to move off of players and contracts that aren't working is refreshing.

 

[ziploc]

I'm pretty sure the team is quite happy with Myers this season, I don't think he's going. If we can bump him down to the 3rd pairing full time, that would be ideal.

For the playoffs, barring further moves:

Hughes - Hronek
Soucy - Cole
Zad - Myers
Juulsen
Friedman

I know Cole is out of position here and Tocchet doesn't like that, but having Big Z and the Giraffe (sounds like a wacky morning radio show duo) on the bottom pairing feels right. It's not cap efficient to keep Myers, but we are almost at the point of being able to or having to suck that up for the rest of the season. He brings more than he would likely bring back in a trade, unless there was another solid top 4 RD option available who doesn't break the bank to acquire.

Maybe we bring in another depth rd in the event of injury or unsustainable suckage.

 

[Vector]

Yes Kuzmenko's contract was their own doing. They took a gamble that he could develop his defensive game. Even if he became adequate at that aspect of the game, his offensive chops were there and deserving of the contract. And arguably he was an asset that added value to the trade. Maybe the trade doesn't get done if it's Hunter B, a late 1st, Jurmo and a 4th.

The willingness to move off of players and contracts that aren't working is refreshing.

According to The Athletic, Calgary was excited to take on Kuzmenko since he fulfilled their objecting of adding an NHLer to the roster, think he can inject a lot of skill and be a gamebreaker for them. His value was low or neutral but Calgary doesn't view him as negative value.

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

Dont think we are done. Here's my prediction

- We are moving Myers for a pick
- We are trading for another Dman to improve the Myers spot
-Getting another Deppth Dman
-Adding another top 6 winger. Someone under the radar like a Mantha, Silverberg, Zucker, Pacriotty

According to Rutherford..they are not going to make any substantial moves now until they see how it all plays out with Lindholm on the team.

If they see a deficiency, they'll deal with it at/around the TDL..which is a month away.

 

[Angry Little Elf]

I think we’re done big game hunting now. Probably just depth moves now

 

[ziploc]

According to The Athletic, Calgary was excited to take on Kuzmenko since he fulfilled their objecting of adding an NHLer to the roster, think he can inject a lot of skill and be a gamebreaker for them. His value was low or neutral but Calgary doesn't view him as negative value.

In spite of the fact that it is Calgary, I still want him to do well. I like Kuzmenko's energy. He just didn't fit here. I don't actually think his goal scoring will lead to much better results for Cowtown though. He is an exciting player, but it strikes me that he is not a winning player in today's NHL, at least not as a primary piece.

 

[SopelFanThe3rd]

I bet the Canucks will add a depth D and maybe a physical depth winger at most. At least unless things fall off the rails in Feb.

 

[Coffee]

Oh yeah, I'd 100% do that. Canucks are rolling with a bunch of guys who are #4s on their best days behind Hughes/Hronek.

Apparently Trouba has been bad , that contract could bite us in the ass. Other defenders would be great

 

[wonton15]

For the playoffs, barring further moves:

Hughes - Hronek
Soucy - Cole
Zad - Myers
Juulsen
Friedman

I know Cole is out of position here and Tocchet doesn't like that, but having Big Z and the Giraffe (sounds like a wacky morning radio show duo) on the bottom pairing feels right. It's not cap efficient to keep Myers, but we are almost at the point of being able to or having to suck that up for the rest of the season. He brings more than he would likely bring back in a trade, unless there was another solid top 4 RD option available who doesn't break the bank to acquire.

Maybe we bring in another depth rd in the event of injury or unsustainable suckage.

It doesn’t look too bad for the playoffs, but feel like we still need a more reliable RHD veteran that can step up in a pinch. Erik Johnson retained would be a prudent move.

We played something like 11 different defensemen in 2011. With your listed D, thats 8. Add Wolanin is 9. Another playable veteran would make it 10 - and ideally we don’t need to play someone like Irwin but he’s there

 

[rypper]

Myers will play out his contract in Vancouver.

 

[TruGr1t]

Myers will play out his contract in Vancouver.

Yes, if they can't get Tanev the probability of them finding a right-side upgrade ahead of the deadline is about zero.