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Mr. Canucklehead
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If it's true that the Canucks' main target is Jake Guentzel, I think it's safe to say we aren't targeting the mid tier. He's one of the biggest prizes on the market.
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Would you guys rather have Joshua or Brenden Dillon? Factoring in contract estimates of 3x2 for Dillon and 3.25x6 Joshua?
(If we sign Guentzel, they’d only be able to sign one)
For me, it’s Joshua undoubtedly.
(If we sign Guentzel, they’d only be able to sign one)
For me, it’s Joshua undoubtedly.
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Rumours of a potential Skinner buyout in Buffalo.
If that happens, I'd definitely look at him as a low cost FA signing on a ST deal.
If that happens, I'd definitely look at him as a low cost FA signing on a ST deal.
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Miller Boeser
Pettersson Guentzel
Garland Joshua
yes please get errr done.
TAMPER! TAMPER! TAMPER! ( as long as its a monetary fine and not draft picks) TAMPER TAMPER TAMPER!
Pettersson Guentzel
Garland Joshua
yes please get errr done.
TAMPER! TAMPER! TAMPER! ( as long as its a monetary fine and not draft picks) TAMPER TAMPER TAMPER!
Safe to say there will be zero dollars left to target the mid tier. lol
You're only about 2M over.
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It depends what other forwards are available on the buyout market, but I'd lean toward Brenden Dillon then look at Skinner, Kapanen, Kaliyev via trade, and others. I guess it also depends on what Guentzel takes for an AAV. I still think 9.5 is a bit high.
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Nucker101
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8.25M for Guentzel in this UFA class would be a heist with cap rising every year again
Gonna tale way more than 8.2 for Guentzel.
Thats underpaid for the previous cap and massively underpaid for the new cap and rising cap in years to come during his contract.
AAV will be starting at 9 imo.
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Sorry I should clarify - that’s factored in. Just hidden on the screenshot
I also went 8.25 instead of 9.5 assuming that we acquire him and go 8.25 instead of 7 years
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They will look at them but I don't think they will pencil many of them in without having a safer plan. Coaches don't like question marks. Unfortunately for Allvin his moves were due to necessity because the last GM royally screwed up the cap structure. As such this management group can't really do the common sense things most teams have to do. As such we have no choice but to fool around with the fringes and hope to hell we get it right again like last year.
I don't really find the risk to be that great. What is risky was Benning signing guys to 3 million with term. These short term deals like Joshua, Suter, Blueger, Lafferty, Cole, have been no problem at all. I don't see them signing anyone in the bottom 6 that would block roster spots, not like we have a lot coming up. If Duhaime wants anything short of a 1 or 2 low million dollar deal Allvin will just move on to the next target.
I like Raty too. I hope he has a good off-season as he's the type of payer that could come in and contribute right away with the right improvements this summer.
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Only way you get that number is if you get his rights and give him the extra year.
Boeser Miller
Pettersson Guentzel
If that is our top 6 combos, we need wingers with speed and skill that can forecheck and puck retrieve. Those 4 are not the fastest or most agile skaters.
Pettersson Guentzel
If that is our top 6 combos, we need wingers with speed and skill that can forecheck and puck retrieve. Those 4 are not the fastest or most agile skaters.
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even then I'm thinking he's more like 8.75M-9M AAV
I wouldn't be shocked if some teams offers him 10M per at 6 or 7 years or some team like Utah does something wild and offers him a ridiculous AAV for 3 years.
IMO he's a run-of-the-mill 4th liner. Fine if they sign him at sub-$1.1M, but let's not pretend there's some secret sauce to unlock there.
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Difference between 9.5x7 and 8.25x8 is 500k
I think he’s saying without saying that Mikheyev is gone, otherwise it changes the equation
Lets say UTAH offers him 15mil x 3yrs = 42mil
vs Canucks at 9.25mil x 7 = 65 mil
At age 33 do you think Guentzel is going to be able to get a 23 mil contract to make it worth it to sign a short term big money deal vs a long term deal with Canucks.
Not to mention he would be taking a huge risk that he doesnt get hurt and that his production stays elite over the next 3-4 years.
I think most Atheltes will take the term and guranteed securirty of a big big contract.
At that AAV, it's definitely Joshua.
The issue is that it sounds like teams are going to bid Joshua up from that considerably. I could see some teams going up to a Mason Marchment-esque deal, which is just too far beyond my walk-away point for Joshua.
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It's not particularly complicated. They have nearly $26.5M at the moment after the new cap number and Poolman on LTIR. Those three players at Sat's numbers add up to about $19.5M, leaving you ~$6M in space.
I can see why you'd want to move Mikheyev, that gives you $10M+ cap space to address another right-shot defenseman behind Hronek-Myers plus a third-line centre.
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