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Post-Game Talk: Canucks 3 Kings 2 OT (Lander, Land, Land)

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tantalum said:
Garland is not going anywhere. Tocchet loves him. He has become good friends with the captain. His contract is good value. I'm actually shocked he didn't get a letter when Miller was traded.
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My gut tells me he would like to head back down to the US for his next contract
 
Peen said:
I honestly thought 7 D would have worked well for this team all season. And I think it’s just smarter for a majority of teams. Why do we teams have two Fs who play like 5-7 minutes but the lowest D is always at 12-13? And those Ds are always so bad because you need PKers (like Juulsen for example).
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I think 12F is ideal if you actually roll the lines and like you said, don't have a forward playing 5 mins.

Adds some rhythm to game for the forwards and they can expel more energy each shift 'cause nobody is playing heavy minutes.

But in our case where we have a few D-men who they don't want PKing and typically a 12th forward who isn't really NHL caliber, 7D might be a good idea on a regular basis.

(Not to mention, if we could ever have a good handle on a game with a lead, it would let us rest Hughes towards the end of the game... but unfortunately we rarely have leads and if we do we seem to choke them away quite regularly)
 
Sausage link game, worked hard enough but tried to lock it down in the third and almost blew it. A win is a win, boring as hell to watch, I guess that's Tocchet hockey after last season's aberration.

Chytil's line was good, the rest of the forwards just ground it out. EP40? I would have been ok with that game....if he was Max Sasson.

The D were generally solid, it's going to take Hughes time to get back up to speed. Lankinen was good.

Glad I recorded it and didn't waste almost 3 hours watching it live.
 
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Forbort hit on Kopitar in OT, felt a momentum shift. Lacking at times a player stepping up like that from the defence this year. Zadorov provided that last year most often. I hope Junior took notes. Just as long as Juulsen isn't in Junior's ear during practice.
 
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Got home to discover the game was on TruTV and not ESPN+. Ticked me off! I mixed it up with the "Upcoming" showing the game in Anaheim tonight instead.

I managed to watch with 17+ minutes in the third to see the Canucks play 1 2 2 and dump it out every time they got it in their zone.
Kings got too many breakout chances and there was always someone on the wing who'd try it. They kept penetrating the neutral zone so turtling wasn't effective.

Lankinen was hyped. He kept challenging though and the Kings figured out he was leaving a lot of room behind him so they were going low and deep. Only bad angles and enough D getting back kept them from tying it up early in the 3rd.
He needs to be careful with that. Our D core has done well to stop the back door play with him and Demko but it's still dangerous to allow it as an option.

Turtling can work if we got a breakout player but we've dumped both Horvat and Miller - in return we have M Petterson. Boeser and Petey Sr. should take up that slack but they've been getting shut down/injured and can't find skating room or chemistry with their line mates. Brock's really good season start and health has slowed without the right linemates to set him up now.

Hughes made a difference and Myers has been playing well.

Deep core has moved from Petey, Miller, Boeser, Horvat, Hughes, and, Demko to Hughes, M. Petterson, and Lankinen with the rest of the rest of the middle group showing improvement - especially Hronek (would be nice to get Joshua playing 100% again). Hints of EP40's ability to slow the game down simply by thinking are showing again. We need him and Boeser to breakout again.

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Also, Tocchet. There wasn't much there for goalie interference in the first place. You wanted a regulation win so badly you risked the single point entirely?

OT penalty was absurd. He clearly hit the puck before he swept the leg.

Beating the Kings at home turns out to be close to a miracle this season - especially considering our OT record.
 
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LuckyDay said:
Got home to discover the game was on TruTV and not ESPN+. Ticked me off! I mixed it up with the "Upcoming" showing the game in Anaheim tonight instead.

I managed to watch with 17+ minutes in the third to see the Canucks play 1 2 2 and dump it out every time they got it in their zone.
Kings got too many breakout chances and there was always someone on the wing who'd try it. They kept penetrating the neutral zone so turtling wasn't effective.

Lankinen was hyped. He kept challenging though and the Kings figured out he was leaving a lot of room behind him so they were going low and deep. Only bad angles and enough D getting back kept them from tying it up early in the 3rd.
He needs to be careful with that. Our D core has done well to stop the back door play with him and Demko but it's still dangerous to allow it as an option.

Turtling can work if we got a breakout player but we've dumped both Horvat and Miller - in return we have M Petterson. Boeser and Petey Sr. should take up that slack but they've been getting shut down/injured and can't find skating room or chemistry with their line mates. Brock's really good season start and health has slowed without the right linemates to set him up now.

Hughes made a difference and Myers has been playing well.

Deep core has moved from Petey, Miller, Boeser, Horvat, Hughes, and, Demko to Hughes, M. Petterson, and Lankinen with the rest of the rest of the middle group showing improvement - especially Hronek (would be nice to get Joshua playing 100% again). Hints of EP40's ability to slow the game down simply by thinking are showing again. We need him and Boeser to breakout again.

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Also, Tocchet. There wasn't much there for goalie interference in the first place. You wanted a regulation win so badly you risked the single point entirely?

OT penalty was absurd. He clearly hit the puck before he swept the leg.

Beating the Kings at home turns out to be close to a miracle this season - especially considering our OT record.
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That changed in 2020.
 
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kanucks25 said:
Rick Tocchet -

Good enough for Quinn Hughes
Good enough for Sidney Crosby
Good enough for Jon Cooper

But not good enough for the genius fans in Vancouver who on average know less about hockey systems than newborns know about quantum physics.
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I wish he would just modify his system to encourage more pucks on net though. You can maintain a strong defensive team while getting more offense by not always looking for the perfect play in the offensive zone.
 
SillyRabbit said:
If I had a nickel for every time someone posted something like this, I'd be making the same amount money as Pettersson does per season.
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except you'd deserve it, am I right?

I've been caught up in a bit of the crapping on Tocchet hysteria (lol) for the turtling when in the lead, but I'm reconsidering this opinion because maybe when teams lack confidence, they revert to safer plays. Off the glass, flipping the puck, icing, etc. We have heard Rick claim the team isn't playing the way he wants them to, so perhaps this whole dump and chase and collapsing defence is happening despite his best intentions?

Does Tocchet coach the skill away? I'd like to know. Well, who to blame ha ha.
 
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