Post-Game Talk: Canucks 3 Kings 2 OT (Hoglander, Garland, Garland)

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Canucks somehow staying in contention. Very good effort through the first two periods, but once again fell into a shell and stopped doing what had been successful in the earlier periods.

Good

Joshua - good comment by Ferraro about this player finding his legs. Like others played well at the offensive blue line and in the neutral zone breaking up plays. Hopefully will continue and make his new contract legit.

Garland - obviously the first star. Think he missed Miller for a few game, but back to be a force in this one.

Lankanin - had no chance on the goals and was solid throughout.

Hughes - maybe not up to his usual standard but back to providing the team the offense that diasppeared with him out

Boeser - if he backchecked and skated every game like he did in this one, he'd be much more of an asset. Maybe the fear of not getting a big contract here or elsewhere is being realized. Thought DeBrusk was also better overall and played a better two way game.

Chytil - producing points. Open ice in the OT let him show off some of his skating ability. There seems to something here and hopefully he now has the chance to exhibit it.

Blueger/Suter - key to the win was their work on the PK. Likely the most consistently best aspect of the team has been the PK. I would say these players are elite in this area .

Poor

Myers - hope he is ok (credit him for the courage to do what he does as a shot blocker) and we are worse without him, but I saw him as a negative as the game progressed. Got the team back on their heels and set the tone for the team in the third with his non-stop icing. Fore-check was crucial in the first two periods, but then, led by Myers, went into a shell and started giving up too many shots. Also, Myers needs to use his stick better to deflect shots away from the goal and not into the net.

Others

EP1 - some good, some bad - overall remains mediocre at best.

EP2 - fact he is not a liability is encouraging. Indeed, he was on most shifts, good. At this point, you'd have to say this player is in the NHL and will be for years.

Soucy - was better in this game. Form in the first two periods was as good as it has been in months.

Hoglander -very nice and very important goal. But after that disappeared.

Give the team credit for a good game against a good team but still have to have doubts, given the way they faded in the third, that they can contend when they get pushed by better teams.
 
You don’t have to trade soucy at the TDL, keep him for depth, encase willander needs more time.

I never once liked with the idea of trading him unless its a trade to good to turn down. I've always valued defensive depth especially for a teams in a playoff push. If its a team out of the picture...ok.... I get it..... but we are very much in the heat of the playoff race, he was good for us last season why not keep him.
 
You could see the seeds of another third period meltdown ...when in the first seven minutes the Canucks were constantly icing the puck. They just seem to lie back, and let teams come at them. Not a recipe for success.

But three goals for the Canucks qualifies as an explosion, and their PK won them the game. Not sure if they were that good, or the Kings PP was that bad....and Lordy was it bad.

Kings will 'lock it down' and win a lot of regular season games. But just can't see it translating to the playoffs very well at all.

Strong games on the blueline from the two Pettersson's--Marcus and Elias. Young D-Petey continues to be revelation with his play. He just so damned mobile out there and his gap control in the middle of the ice--is off the charts. Canuck have special one in this kid.

As for the 'other Pettersson--EP40--another quiet night. He didn't even see the ice in OT.
 
I like watching Marcus Pettersson play hockey. He's just a professional out there. Uses every bit of his length and strength to push the puck in the right direction. If he can maintain this level of player for a few more years and a couple of Pettersson/Willander/Mancini/Kudryavtsev/Mynio become legit NHLers, that's an excellent group.
 
Kopitar basically saved them. He got up and made sure his teammate didn't take a penalty. Stupid incredibly calm and smart Kopitar.

I hate losing to Kopi, I love him as a player, but I hate losing to him. I agree...incredibly smart player. If it wasn't for Bergeron, he would've won more Selkes.

I could be wrong, but I feel like Forbort is the one dude on the team who took the Jeannot-Boeser hit personally. He fought Jeannot last game and then lays a big hit on Kopitar in this game.

That's why I love him.
 
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Tonight’s Game
  • A lot to like about the game
  • Obviously need to talk about giving up two goals in the 3rd
  • Penalty kill was huge; took a lot of guts
Hughes
  • Is a driving force; possesses the puck a lot; not afraid to make plays
  • Calming influence in the dressing room
Myers
  • Got hit in the neck; thinks it hit a nerve; was dizzy
  • Might be okay for tomorrow
  • Possible he saved a goal
Goal Challenge
  • There was goal interference but the King wasn’t in the crease
  • Tocchet say it’s his mistake
  • If the foot was in the crease, it would have been no goal
Forward Group
  • Were better through the middle of the ice on rush attacks but still have a ways to go
  • Thought O’Connor brought some speed
  • Hoglander had some juice early in the game
  • More balanced lines
Leading Up To Hughes Playing
  • 11 minutes before the game, Hughes called Tocchet into the medical room and convinced Tocchet to let him play
  • Original plan was to load manage him but Hughes said he felt pretty good on the ice and still feels good after the game
  • Hughes wanted to play and doctors felt it was safe enough
  • At the 8 minutes mark had to tell Bains he wasn’t playing
  • Is the longest Tocchet has ever gone to finalize the line-up
  • Have to get the line-up in 7 minutes before puck-drop and Canucks had about 90 seconds left
Wild Card Chase
  • Need to keep pushing when the pressure mounts
  • Playing too safe and need to get over that hump
  • If you’re the 4th man in the rush, you can’t be scared to attack
  • Still need to support each other
3rd Period
  • Felt the Canucks were chasing the puck
  • Kings were flying through the middle and the Canucks “didn’t pick them up”; were standing still in the neutral zone; can’t stand that
  • Will take the positives for this game, though
 
A playoff type player. Let's f***in goooooooooo :)
When we signed him a lot of people wrote him off, mostly because people wanted Zadorov back. He had a rough start but since January I think he's had three games where he's been a minus and our pk since he's been back full time has been lights out.
Speaking of our D looking at it now compared to when Hronek, Forbort and Quinn for a few games gives me PTSD lol.

Two months ago I was marking my Calendar for the arrival of Willander but with Myers, Hronek, and Forbort, playing so well, there's no way he's gonna see much time. Watching Myers knowing exactly when to pinch and creating scoring chances, or D-Petey playing like he is at 20 when people were pissed he wasn't moved over Brew last year, or Marcus and Forbort shutting it down with ease especially that last kill is just awesome. On top of that we have Hronek and the best Dman in the league along with very strong goaltending, call up Lekkerimakki and add a legit top six forward and we can compete with anyone come playoffs.
 
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Marcus Pettersson reminds of a left-hand version of Chris Tanev in his prime. The play just seems to slow down when it's on his stick, and he makes the right play over and over again.

You can understand why Rutherford and Allvin, who got him out of Anaheim as young d-men when they were in Pittsburgh--had prioritized him for the past three years in Vancouver. And of course quickly re-signed him to a long-term extension.
 
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Rick Tocchet -

Good enough for Quinn Hughes
Good enough for Sidney Crosby
Good enough for Jon Cooper

But not good enough for the genius fans in Vancouver who on average know less about hockey systems than newborns know about quantum physics.
 
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As for the actual game:

- Lanky solid all night. Looked confident, composed and in control.

- Obvious Hughes is injured. Mixed bag I thought. But when he plays it pushes everyone else down the depth chart which makes the team better.

- Chytil has flaws but his ability and willingness to carry the puck with speed is important for this team.

- Petey with several good attempts carrying the puck in the 2nd period but nothing outside of that. Yet again some flashes but nothing more.

- Thought Boeser was pretty strong on the puck all night. When he plays with determination and hustle he's an excellent "little things" player. But if he's not skating hard he's too behind the play. With the way the lines are constructed and how little talent we have up front, his production is going to suffer. Needs a legitimate playmaking top-6 center and we don't have one right now.

- Agree with Ray and others that Joshua's game is coming. When he's at his best he is a very disruptive player between the defensive and offensive faceoff circles both in the middle of the ice and along the boards. Hopefully that heavy game he and Garland played down low in the offensive zone isn't far behind.

- 7 D-men might actually work for this team. We have a couple D-men that don't PK, so even if one PK D-man takes a penalty we still have 4 remaining that can kill. Not to mention it gives forwards lower in the lineup like Sherwood some extra shifts that he deserves.
 
Ignoring the card, there is truth to your statement. Management has little patience for those that aren't able to pull the team in the right direction. Tocchet's pre-game comments called Junior Pettersson the 5th defencemen and the 6th spot will be up for competition. Pettersson was the 7th defenceman today but Soucy played just under 12 minutes.

At this stage, I wouldn't be surprised if they move him by the deadline. I still suspect that more of an off-season trade.
The NTC hurts but Winnipeg, Minnesota, Detroit would be in need of a LHD.
 
- 7 D-men might actually work for this team. We have a couple D-men that don't PK, so even if one PK D-man takes a penalty we still have 4 remaining that can kill. Not to mention it gives forwards lower in the lineup like Sherwood some extra shifts that he deserves.
I honestly thought 7 D would have worked well for this team all season. And I think it’s just smarter for a majority of teams. Why do we teams have two Fs who play like 5-7 minutes but the lowest D is always at 12-13? And those Ds are always so bad because you need PKers (like Juulsen for example).
 
Garland is not going anywhere. Tocchet loves him. He has become good friends with the captain. His contract is good value. I'm actually shocked he didn't get a letter when Miller was traded.

On the game...I thought they played a good game for 40 minutes. The issue that will become a major problem if they make the playoffs is they get overwhelmed easily when they sit back and the opposition starts pressuring.

I think the low shots were a bit misleading as the canucks generated a decent amount of scoring chances through the first two periods. Not enough grade A chances but they more or less controlled the play. HUGE kill in OT and so glad they came up with that given the play O'Connor made to get that penalty. A just reward.
 

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