Confirmed with Link: Canadiens Will Pick 5th (Hughes Presser in OP) NO POLITICS

[Treb]

Slaf we can afford to lose, bombshell probably don’t want to include futur hall of famer Mesar to those trades instead it’s too much.

The difference between Smith/Michkov and Carlsson is not Slafkovsky.

 

[Rapala]

He was the that said MTL would never beat the figs in the north division during covid

True but to be fair he was just one of all of them.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

Mesar for Carlsson
San Jose might need to add a bit though

 

[Rapala]

Canadiens Could Look To Trade Up At 2023 NHL Draft

The Montreal Canadiens will have a few options leading up to the 2023 NHL Draft, and it appears that trading up could be high on their wishlist. On a recent segment for TSN 690, NHL Insider Darren Dreger spoke about the Montreal Canadiens’ situation with the 5th overall pick and what their...

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My opinion:

Getting Carlsson will require a 3-way trade.

To Sharks: Mtl's 5th + FL 1st + Slaf + 2nd round, assurance from Columbus they wont Draft Michkov
To Columbus: Sharks's Slaf + 2nd round acquired from mtl
To Mtl: Sharks's 4th + Columbus assurance they wont draft Carlsson

Are we tearing down or rebuilding? No one in the top 5 are trading up let's put that concept to bed. Carlsson is not worth last year's 1st overall and this year's 5th. Bedard maybe but even then Chicago would laugh after seeing the spike in their ticket sales. It's going to take one heck of an offer to pry our top prospects out of HuGo's hands and make no doubt about it this pick is one of our top prospects.

 

[larek]

Mesar for Carlsson
San Jose might need to add a bit though

LoL where do you guys come up with this

 

[Dharvey08]

Canadiens Could Look To Trade Up At 2023 NHL Draft

The Montreal Canadiens will have a few options leading up to the 2023 NHL Draft, and it appears that trading up could be high on their wishlist. On a recent segment for TSN 690, NHL Insider Darren Dreger spoke about the Montreal Canadiens’ situation with the 5th overall pick and what their...

montrealhockeynow.com

My opinion:

Getting Carlsson will require a 3-way trade.

To Sharks: Mtl's 5th + FL 1st + Slaf + 2nd round, assurance from Columbus they wont Draft Michkov
To Columbus: Sharks's Slaf + 2nd round acquired from mtl
To Mtl: Sharks's 4th + Columbus assurance they wont draft Carlsson

Boy I’m glad you are not the habs GM.

What a terrible trade proposal, there is absolutely no way that the habs are trading Slafkovsky in a package unless it’s Bedard that’s coming their way.

 

[Adam Michaels]

If Arizona calls you and they want to move up one spot from 6th to 5th and offer you the 38th overall as an extra, do you take it?

Basically:

MTL receives: 6th OA (move back one spot) + 38th OA
ARI receives: 5th OA (move up one spot)


So Habs end up with 6th OA + FLA 1st + 37th OA (Habs own 2nd) + 38th OA (ARI's 2nd)


Let's say Bedard, Fantilli, Carlsson & Smith are off the table with the first 4 picks, and Habs have no interest in taking Michkov, so then they're looking at Benson, Leonard or Reinbacher (so you know you will have at least one of those 3) even if you move back one spot, you also add another early second round pick in the process. So you end up with 4 picks in the top 38 of the draft.

Obviously, if one of those 4 are available at 5, you keep the pick and take the one who's available. It's better to have a Carlsson or a Smith rather than adding another 2nd round pick. My scenario has them off the board at 5th.

 

[Adam Michaels]

 

[Vachon23]

If Arizona calls you and they want to move up one spot from 6th to 5th and offer you the 38th overall as an extra, do you take it?

Basically:

MTL receives: 6th OA (move back one spot) + 38th OA
ARI receives: 5th OA (move up one spot)


So Habs end up with 6th OA + FLA 1st + 37th OA (Habs own 2nd) + 38th OA (ARI's 2nd)


Let's say Bedard, Fantilli, Carlsson & Smith are off the table with the first 4 picks, and Habs have no interest in taking Michkov, so then they're looking at Benson, Leonard or Reinbacher (so you know you will have at least one of those 3) even if you move back one spot, you also add another early second round pick in the process. So you end up with 4 picks in the top 38 of the draft.

Obviously, if one of those 4 are available at 5, you keep the pick and take the one who's available. It's better to have a Carlsson or a Smith rather than adding another 2nd round pick. My scenario has them off the board at 5th.

No, I want us to do that whatever it take to trade up actually, I want us to draft one of the top 4

 

[SwiftyHab]

If Arizona calls you and they want to move up one spot from 6th to 5th and offer you the 38th overall as an extra, do you take it?

Basically:

MTL receives: 6th OA (move back one spot) + 38th OA
ARI receives: 5th OA (move up one spot)


So Habs end up with 6th OA + FLA 1st + 37th OA (Habs own 2nd) + 38th OA (ARI's 2nd)


Let's say Bedard, Fantilli, Carlsson & Smith are off the table with the first 4 picks, and Habs have no interest in taking Michkov, so then they're looking at Benson, Leonard or Reinbacher (so you know you will have at least one of those 3) even if you move back one spot, you also add another early second round pick in the process. So you end up with 4 picks in the top 38 of the draft.

Obviously, if one of those 4 are available at 5, you keep the pick and take the one who's available. It's better to have a Carlsson or a Smith rather than adding another 2nd round pick. My scenario has them off the board at 5th.

If we arent drafting Michkov, then id consider a prospect first then the 2nd rounder

 

[phillytennis]

yes because you need to get a guarantee that Columbus and SJ wont draft Carlsson.

You gotta pay tribbute to 2 teams, not one, so you're essentially "moving up" 2 times.

Its a possibility that Columbus wants the same player that SJ wants so trading straight with Columbus wont be possible. Unless they're fine with either Michkov or Smith

Basically, you have written off Juraf
Slafkovsky....ridiculous.

 

[Kennerback]

If we arent drafting Michkov, then id consider a prospect first then the 2nd rounder

I hope we get more value than a regular 5OA. I don’t dislike the other players but there’s that gap. I like Dvorsky. He does everything right in his two way play. I’m just not convinced about his offence at top levels. He’s raw offensively in that his one-timer doesn’t make it enough to the back of the net. He doesn’t bury pucks that other top-5 would bury. And some of his passing is to guys that seem covered. Devil’s advocate would be that it’s because he plays with much weaker players than other Top-5.

With Michkov not there and in a typical draft I like Dvorsky. But switching back and forth in shift by shift we’re talking about a different level of players. Michkov can make a pass in a 360 radius to the open guy under extreme duress. I sometimes don’t even know how he gets the puck off. He’s a brilliant hockey player that seems to always make the right move offensively. He can score from anywhere, all the time. He’s an agressive player and his motor is always running even deep in his zone. He’s 5’10 but built like a tank and already goes in all the dirty areas.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

PLD wants to play for "Les Canadiens" ...it would stupid not to do everything to bring him to Montreal.
"C'est un petit gars de chez nous!!!"

He can kick rocks

 

[Favster]

I don't understand why so much here hate Molson ? He's close to the perfect owner:

- He don't interface in hockey decision
- Always say yes when the GM ask him to spend money to help the team, as much in money for players then for facilities or for some hockey staff
- Not a bipolar owner like Dolan in NYR
- Doesn't try to still the show from the players or the team, really quiet and stay behind the scenes
- The value and revenues of that team have grown like never

Because most people here shit on EVERYONE

 

[Gustave]

If Arizona calls you and they want to move up one spot from 6th to 5th and offer you the 38th overall as an extra, do you take it?

Basically:

MTL receives: 6th OA (move back one spot) + 38th OA
ARI receives: 5th OA (move up one spot)


So Habs end up with 6th OA + FLA 1st + 37th OA (Habs own 2nd) + 38th OA (ARI's 2nd)


Let's say Bedard, Fantilli, Carlsson & Smith are off the table with the first 4 picks, and Habs have no interest in taking Michkov, so then they're looking at Benson, Leonard or Reinbacher (so you know you will have at least one of those 3) even if you move back one spot, you also add another early second round pick in the process. So you end up with 4 picks in the top 38 of the draft.

Obviously, if one of those 4 are available at 5, you keep the pick and take the one who's available. It's better to have a Carlsson or a Smith rather than adding another 2nd round pick. My scenario has them off the board at 5th.

Maybe, but I don’t think the Habs need more picks and prospects. There are too many of them in the pipeline. So, if you’re dead set on picking off the board, I understand that it’s good asset management to maximise value.

I’m just not that into it, if you will. Just pick the goddamn player thats there for the taking.

 

[rochab]

I found this interesting.

Love his nickname for Slaf.... "The Big Rig"....

 

[Andrei79]

Reading the Jackets board, apparently Davidson said they would get a center. So Carlsson or Smith at 3, likely. I'm thinking the chances are high Michkov will be there at 5, but I highly, highly doubt this team picks him. Dvorsky seems like the most probable pick right now.

 

[Milhouse40]

Reading the Jackets board, apparently Davidson said they would get a center. So Carlsson or Smith at 3, likely. I'm thinking the chances are high Michkov will be there at 5, but I highly, highly doubt this team picks him. Dvorsky seems like the most probable pick right now.

San jose could be a good fit for Michkov

 

[Sterling Archer]

If Arizona calls you and they want to move up one spot from 6th to 5th and offer you the 38th overall as an extra, do you take it?

Basically:

MTL receives: 6th OA (move back one spot) + 38th OA
ARI receives: 5th OA (move up one spot)


So Habs end up with 6th OA + FLA 1st + 37th OA (Habs own 2nd) + 38th OA (ARI's 2nd)


Let's say Bedard, Fantilli, Carlsson & Smith are off the table with the first 4 picks, and Habs have no interest in taking Michkov, so then they're looking at Benson, Leonard or Reinbacher (so you know you will have at least one of those 3) even if you move back one spot, you also add another early second round pick in the process. So you end up with 4 picks in the top 38 of the draft.

Obviously, if one of those 4 are available at 5, you keep the pick and take the one who's available. It's better to have a Carlsson or a Smith rather than adding another 2nd round pick. My scenario has them off the board at 5th.

I wouldn't unless we're still getting Smith, Carlsson or Michkov with the 6th, like if a top 4 team goes off the reservation with their pick. I just think the drop in talent in that top 5 group is big enough and the risk or the player your trading being dominant, to move for a 2nd. Mid 1st, then I'm thinking.

 

[WeThreeKings]

If Arizona calls you and they want to move up one spot from 6th to 5th and offer you the 38th overall as an extra, do you take it?

Basically:

MTL receives: 6th OA (move back one spot) + 38th OA
ARI receives: 5th OA (move up one spot)


So Habs end up with 6th OA + FLA 1st + 37th OA (Habs own 2nd) + 38th OA (ARI's 2nd)


Let's say Bedard, Fantilli, Carlsson & Smith are off the table with the first 4 picks, and Habs have no interest in taking Michkov, so then they're looking at Benson, Leonard or Reinbacher (so you know you will have at least one of those 3) even if you move back one spot, you also add another early second round pick in the process. So you end up with 4 picks in the top 38 of the draft.

Obviously, if one of those 4 are available at 5, you keep the pick and take the one who's available. It's better to have a Carlsson or a Smith rather than adding another 2nd round pick. My scenario has them off the board at 5th.

I would do everything I could to try to get up to 4 for Carlsson.
I'd try less to get Smith at 4 but I'd try.

If that doesn't come to fruition and we are at 5 with 0 intentions to draft Michkov, then yeah I'd let Arizona pay us to drop down and be in a more appropriate range to select who we will select.

Reading the Jackets board, apparently Davidson said they would get a center. So Carlsson or Smith at 3, likely. I'm thinking the chances are high Michkov will be there at 5, but I highly, highly doubt this team picks him. Dvorsky seems like the most probable pick right now.

I would say Reinbacher is more likely than Dvorsky.

 

[Jaynki]

Reading the Jackets board, apparently Davidson said they would get a center. So Carlsson or Smith at 3, likely. I'm thinking the chances are high Michkov will be there at 5, but I highly, highly doubt this team picks him. Dvorsky seems like the most probable pick right now.

They will get Michkov. How often can you get such a talent at 5th overall?

We are all focused on the (legitimate) risk and his contract. But in his manager career, despite drafting 1st and 2nd overall and working in the league for more than 20 years, Gorton never had the chance to draft a talent like Michkov.

 

[BJCOLLINS]

Wow, we’re gonna have a lot of disappointed people here draft day.

I understand it…I would love to have a draft where our top 10 pick is a “no doubter”? It’s been terribly disappointing for us to see so many teams hit gold picking at #3 like Draisaitl, Heiskanen, Toews, PLD or even at #5 Pettersson, Sanderson, Hanifin???

We have had only 2 successful (top 10) picks Sergachev #9 & Price #5 in decades? And even then our pick was mishandled by bergy the clown car when he moved Sergachev with a second for Drouin so Price is the only pick that’s paid dividends? top 10 picks should, at least, be in your lineup for 8-10 years even if they’re a 4th line or 3rd pairing d?

its so unfortunate that we have #5 and people are thinking Dvorsky or Reinbacher as “okay we‘ll settle for these guys”? I get it, it’s a gamble, a crapshoot, Dvorsky or Reinbacher may turn out solid 8-10 year players but it would be nice to have a top 5 that’s a slam dunk pick. BTW I like Smith and Michkov however I have a feeling our management will pass on the Russian if available and some other team will be shouting “we have the steal of the draft“ & “we can’t believe he fell to us” lol.
We could really use a repeat of our 1984 draft!!! We’ve earned it.

sorry, I guess I’m just a punch drunk Habs fan where drafting is concerned.

 

[Adam Michaels]

I wouldn't unless we're still getting Smith, Carlsson or Michkov with the 6th, like if a top 4 team goes off the reservation with their pick. I just think the drop in talent in that top 5 group is big enough and the risk or the player your trading being dominant, to move for a 2nd. Mid 1st, then I'm thinking.

In my scenario, Smith & Carlsson are off the board and the Canadiens decide they won't take Michkov.

If Carlsson or Smith are still on the board at 5th, I'm not moving back. I use the pick to get one of them. I'd rather have either one of them instead of another 2nd rounder, even if it's an early 2nd.

 

[NekkiChiconey]

I’d be a bit jealous of the team that picks Michkov at 3 or 4.

Depends who's left. If it's Carlsson, I'd be fine. If it's Smith then I'd be jealous but I would go for Benson instead.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

I would rather wait on a guaranteed superstar in Michkov than a potential one in Wil Smith.