Confirmed with Link: Canadiens Will Pick 5th (Hughes Presser in OP) NO POLITICS

[HabbyGuy]

Everyone is saying that Michkov is the most talented Russian born player since Ovie. If it is really the case, he should be drafted 2nd overall. If he drops at #5, it's gonna mean that 3 other orgs are a bunch of dummies. Which I doubt. So, why would the Habs sacrifies themselves for a player we might never see in the NHL ? Or in 6-7 years ?

And I'm saying I don't think any other teams would be considered dummies for choosing another over him because they have other options to choose from. All players in the top 5 have great upside without the perceived Russian concerns.

I'd say we'd be dummies because at the 5th spot we'd be without those same options. Because at 5 there would only be one left with similar upside. The one that's left.

I doubt Michkov will be available at 5. If he is, we will be very fortunate.

Either way we're fortunate to be picking 5th in this draft. We literally can't go wrong here, as long as we don't deviate from the top 5. Because whoever is left will undoubtedly be the best prospect in our pool.

 

[montreal]

I don't think so. I think there will be Michkov at 5 because Bedard, Fantilli, Carlsson and Smith will be gone. And if Mtl doesn't take Michkov, who will take him? I think Mich will drop like 10th or 14 th. I can understand Washington being hot about Michkov, probably because of Ovy and his influence. The problem with Michkov is having no control in hands. I can see Vancouver picking Michkov.

he has control in his hands, he can buy out the rest of his contract with SKA if he wants to, it will take a year but he is allowed.

 

[jrom]

Jarmo has proven that he can be completely unpredictable. How many of us in here thought that he wouldn’t pass on Puljujarvi?

He probably knew better then to draft him

 

[jrom]

I've said it before...but no one will fault the habs brass for a Russian player not coming over. They took BPA and he decided to stay there, shit happens.

But if what you said happens, then yes...pitchforks out

It’s eerie how it sounds like last year discussions along the lines of “they should draft Wright, no one will blame them if it doesn’t work out”.

 

[_vivelequebec_]

Fantilli will be going 2nd. We know the jackets want a C. It will be either Carlsson or Smith. I'm starting to strongly believe that San Jose will pick Michkov at 4, no matter who's left. It just makes too much sense for them timeline-wise. In that case, we'll hope Carlsson's the odd man out, or we'll settle for Smith.

I’d be a bit jealous of the team that picks Michkov at 3 or 4.

 

[jrom]

Molson didn’t stop MB / Timmins from selecting a very controversial Mailloux…

Yeah but he’s on record saying he knows better now. That said for Michkov it won’t be a PR issue, it’s a financial risk if it delays / prevent the return of playoff $

 

[ottawa]

It’s eerie how it sounds like last year discussions along the lines of “they should draft Wright, no one will blame them if it doesn’t work out”.

Only difference being that a guy like Michkov being available at #5 might be a once in a lifetime event so not exactly similar.

 

[_vivelequebec_]

What I hope :

Bedard
Fantilli
Smith/Michkov/Carlsson
Michkov/Carlsson/Smith
Carlsson/Smith/Michkov

What I see :

Bedard
Fantilli
Carlsson
Smith
No Michkov

 

[Kennerback]

If Michkov is indeed the second best prospect, how come Anaheim, SJ or Columbus would not pick him for all the well known reasons ? And why would the Habs would then have to grab him ? Why is he not a safe pick for three teams and not ours ?

There is two main tiers. You can break them in subtiers with 1a being Bedard. If I’m the Ducks I draft Fantilli. Michkov is a better player but you get a star right now, if I’m Columbus, I’m probably picking Carlsson for the same reason. If I’m San Jose, I would think long and hard between Smith and Michkov. But these are likely superstars with mind-blowing seasons. Smith included…

Then there is a massive drop. Massive… Dvorsky before this season was supposed to be the best Slovak better than Slafkovsky. He’s underwhelming and was way oversold. And Reinbacher looks good but Ds are harder to gauge at 18, and some later 1st Rounders and early 2nd rounder become stars. He’s not Chris Pronger. He’s not Victor Hedman. It’s BPA heresy to take Reinbacher over Michkov.

 

[phillytennis]

What an awful pick at #5
Slaf 2.0

What an awful way to view Juraf Slafkovsky...he is still young...he's still has loads of potential...fans need to temper their expectations...Slaf has plenty of time to develop into a great player.

 

[sampollock]

Why, we're no longer good enough for you?

Haha
No just looking for a MLB one this one...
Go Yankees

 

[Naslund]

Michkov will not end up in Montreal. Either the concerns attached to him are somewhat resolved before the draft, leading San Jose to go for him. However, if the Sharks stay away, then you can bet that Montreal will as well, not because they will blindly follow their lead, but because they will have the same information that drove San Jose to make their decision. Michkov will then fall, until the reward vs risk ratio is large enough to justify picking him. The difference between Smith, Leonard, Dvorsky, Wood, etc... is not large enough to drastically change the reward/risk ratio between San Jose and Montreal. Thus, these teams would either both pick him or both drop him. Unfortunately, San Jose picks before us, so there is no chance that he will be a Habs.

 

[River Meadow]

Michkov will not end up in Montreal. Either the concerns attached to him are somewhat resolved before the draft, leading San Jose to go for him. However, if the Sharks stay away, then you can bet that Montreal will as well, not because they will blindly follow their lead, but because they will have the same information that drove San Jose to make their decision. Michkov will then fall, until the reward vs risk ratio is large enough to justify picking him. The difference between Smith, Leonard, Dvorsky, Wood, etc... is not large enough to drastically change the reward/risk ratio for San Jose and Montreal. Thus, these teams would either both pick him or both drop him. Unfortunately, San Jose picks before us, so there is no chance that he will be a Habs.

Thank you for confirming this, Nostradamus.

Much appreciated.

 

[BenchBrawl]

What I hope :

Bedard
Fantilli
Smith/Michkov/Carlsson
Michkov/Carlsson/Smith
Carlsson/Smith/Michkov

What I see :

Bedard
Fantilli
Carlsson
Smith
No Michkov

Hope you're wrong, but it smells like this.

 

[Schooner Guy]

That's not really a fair comparison. War has affected Michkov rankings. He would be ranked #2, behind projected one of all time great.

Scouts assess players based on hockey...not political situations. GMs and owners make the decision when there is a sensitive situation. The war was going on long before Fantilli and Smith climbed ahead of Michkov in the poll of scouts.

 

[Jabba11]

Michkov will not end up in Montreal. Either the concerns attached to him are somewhat resolved before the draft, leading San Jose to go for him. However, if the Sharks stay away, then you can bet that Montreal will as well, not because they will blindly follow their lead, but because they will have the same information that drove San Jose to make their decision. Michkov will then fall, until the reward vs risk ratio is large enough to justify picking him. The difference between Smith, Leonard, Dvorsky, Wood, etc... is not large enough to drastically change the reward/risk ratio between San Jose and Montreal. Thus, these teams would either both pick him or both drop him. Unfortunately, San Jose picks before us, so there is no chance that he will be a Habs.

The big difference between San Jose and Montreal is that San Jose has the luxury of choosing between Michkov ou whoever left from the remaining top 4. When it comes to the 5th pick, Montreal won't have that luxury so it's not like Montreal is gonna spit on Michkov because San Jose didn't select him.

If you guys want to relive the KK pick over Tkachuk, you're more than welcome. But don't come crying when Michkov outplays Dvorsky or Wood or Benson (who I am still very high on) in the league. And also, why are most of you all so confident that Gorton and Hughes would skip on Michkov? This management has proven they're not afraid of taking risks:

Drafting Slafkovsky over Wright when consensus was Wright and fanbase wanted Wright.
And they're not afraid of big moves like the one we did to get Kirby Dach.

And lastly, why are we talking about trading down, when was the last time a team with the top 5 pick traded down? Are you guys crazy? Like, think for a second, GM Kent Hughes literally went on to say they were expecting to pick between 5 and 7 with more odds with the 6th pick and that they were freaking happy to pick the highest between 5-7. Like, why would he ever trade down? Cause we're gonna skip Michkov and let's get some assets etc? It's the NHL draft, secure your asset, pick your guy. This isn't NHL23 and especially when talking about a 5th overall pick, we're not talking about at 15th overall pick.

As for the medias, pick Michkov and it'll give them something fun to talk about over the summer.

 

[Hins77]

The big difference between San Jose and Montreal is that San Jose has the luxury of choosing between Michkov ou whoever left from the remaining top 4. When it comes to the 5th pick, Montreal won't have that luxury so it's not like Montreal is gonna spit on Michkov because San Jose didn't select him.

If you guys want to relive the KK pick over Tkachuk, you're more than welcome. But don't come crying when Michkov outplays Dvorsky or Wood or Benson (who I am still very high on) in the league. And also, why are most of you all so confident that Gorton and Hughes would skip on Michkov? This management has proven they're not afraid of taking risks:

Drafting Slafkovsky over Wright when consensus was Wright and fanbase wanted Wright.
And they're not afraid of big moves like the one we did to get Kirby Dach.

And lastly, why are we talking about trading down, when was the last time a team with the top 5 pick traded down? Are you guys crazy? Like, think for a second, GM Kent Hughes literally went on to say they were expecting to pick between 5 and 7 with more odds with the 6th pick and that they were freaking happy to pick the highest between 5-7. Like, why would he ever trade down? Cause we're gonna skip Michkov and let's get some assets etc? It's the NHL draft, secure your asset, pick your guy. This isn't NHL23 and especially when talking about a 5th overall pick, we're not talking about at 15th overall pick.

As for the medias, pick Michkov and it'll give them something fun to talk about over the summer.

If you pick 5th and you are going to draft Michkov, there is no need to trade down. But if you are affraid of Michkov. There is a drop off after 5. There is many good players (benson, wood, reinbacher, leonard). But i have said 4 name thats for me, they are all equals. The top 5 (michkov, bedard, fantilli, carlsson, smith) have a serious edge over the rest.
Imo, i would rather like to trade up and pick 3 or 4

 

[Bombshell11]

Canadiens Could Look To Trade Up At 2023 NHL Draft

The Montreal Canadiens will have a few options leading up to the 2023 NHL Draft, and it appears that trading up could be high on their wishlist. On a recent segment for TSN 690, NHL Insider Darren Dreger spoke about the Montreal Canadiens’ situation with the 5th overall pick and what their...

montrealhockeynow.com

My opinion:

Getting Carlsson will require a 3-way trade.

To Sharks: Mtl's 5th + FL 1st + Slaf + 2nd round, assurance from Columbus they wont Draft Michkov
To Columbus: Sharks's Slaf + 2nd round acquired from mtl
To Mtl: Sharks's 4th + Columbus assurance they wont draft Carlsson

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

The player we draft at 5 will most likely be ready after 1 year. Not 3 years. Will Smith will be in the NHL in 2024-2025

And you are under the assumption that he will be 100% here in 3 years. That's actually what they need to find out and that variable can also be affected by something outside everyone's control which completely sucks.

It's not about winning the cup next year or the year after that but getting a player that you're not even sure he'll be there in 3 years and during that time, you have no control over him and his development.

Why would he drops Uni after a year?

Canadiens Could Look To Trade Up At 2023 NHL Draft

The Montreal Canadiens will have a few options leading up to the 2023 NHL Draft, and it appears that trading up could be high on their wishlist. On a recent segment for TSN 690, NHL Insider Darren Dreger spoke about the Montreal Canadiens’ situation with the 5th overall pick and what their...

montrealhockeynow.com

My opinion:

Getting Carlsson will require a 3-way trade.

To Sharks: Mtl's 5th + FL 1st + Slaf + 2nd round, assurance from Columbus they wont Draft Michkov
To Columbus: Sharks's Slaf + 2nd round acquired from mtl
To Mtl: Sharks's 4th + Columbus assurance they wont draft Carlsson

What is this non sense of a trade , we gain nothing and lose 3 first picks and a close second to a first round
what

 

[Draft]

Canadiens Could Look To Trade Up At 2023 NHL Draft

The Montreal Canadiens will have a few options leading up to the 2023 NHL Draft, and it appears that trading up could be high on their wishlist. On a recent segment for TSN 690, NHL Insider Darren Dreger spoke about the Montreal Canadiens’ situation with the 5th overall pick and what their...

montrealhockeynow.com

My opinion:

Getting Carlsson will require a 3-way trade.

To Sharks: Mtl's 5th + FL 1st + Slaf + 2nd round, assurance from Columbus they wont Draft Michkov
To Columbus: Sharks's Slaf + 2nd round acquired from mtl
To Mtl: Sharks's 4th + Columbus assurance they wont draft Carlsson

I'm sorry, but this is terrible. We give up Slafkovsky + (one of Smith/Michkov/Carlsson) + and FLA 1st... to move up one spot to pick Carlsson?

 

[ReHabs]

What an awful way to view Juraf Slafkovsky...he is still young...he's still has loads of potential...fans need to temper their expectations...Slaf has plenty of time to develop into a great player.

If he has loads of potential we shouldn’t be told to temper expectations every week.

 

[Kojo]

If he has loads of potential we shouldn’t be told to temper expectations every week.

Why are you talking shit about our number one prospect in every discussion? It's no annoying.

 

[SlafySZN]

I'm sorry, but this is terrible. We give up Slafkovsky + (one of Smith/Michkov/Carlsson) + and FLA 1st... to move up one spot to pick Carlsson?

Slaf we can afford to lose, bombshell probably don’t want to include futur hall of famer Mesar to those trades instead it’s too much.

 

[Bombshell11]

I'm sorry, but this is terrible. We give up Slafkovsky + (one of Smith/Michkov/Carlsson) + and FLA 1st... to move up one spot to pick Carlsson?

yes because you need to get a guarantee that Columbus and SJ wont draft Carlsson.

You gotta pay tribbute to 2 teams, not one, so you're essentially "moving up" 2 times.

Its a possibility that Columbus wants the same player that SJ wants so trading straight with Columbus wont be possible. Unless they're fine with either Michkov or Smith

 

[Bombshell11]

Slaf we can afford to lose, bombshell probably don’t want to include futur hall of famer Mesar to those trades instead it’s too much.

You dont send a euro player to the OHL because you want to trade him. Mesar's value is low at the moment.

Slaf's value is high.

and FL's 1st is going to be at best a 29th pick, thats essentially a second rounder.