Confirmed with Link: Canadiens Will Pick 5th (Hughes Presser in OP) NO POLITICS

[BenchBrawl]

Where did you hear this?

 

[Lucky Luke]

If Columbus selects Carlsson, I am very at ease with the Habs ending up with either Smith or Michkov. I just don't want to see the Habs trade any valuable assets to draft earlier. In fact, if they are to trade any assets, have them deal with Arizona for the 6th pick. That way, the Habs could end up with either Smith and Leonard or either Michkov and Leonard.

 

[morhilane]

Somebody explain this to me please. How does a certain sector go from being paranoid we aren't picking Michkov at 5 to Hughes is trying to move up to 4 to get Michkov.

It's something called copium. Very popular with fans during draft season.

 

[Jaynki]

Why the f*** would a source gives free and confidential information to fckng Damico guys ?

He is just trying to increase traffic to his website.

Agent and sometimes front office personal may gives clues to insider like Friedman or Dreger or Lebrun or Seravalli or Johnston to get things going but thats about it.

The rest are spewing bullshit our of their ass and are too unreliable or simply don't have the reputation to be used by agent and team personel.

 

[WeThreeKings]

And if we pass when he becomes a top player we are going to hear "well it was obvious he was the BPA but it was too risky at the time"..

Far less of that on the board than what I said.

@WeThreeKings

Why are you acting like it's a certainty that the Habs won't pick Michkov?

Because I don't think a team who has known where they are in the draft for over a month and hasn't begun their due diligence on a player, has a particular interest in said player.

It,s all about result in the end. No matter your field of work. Not sure why it should be different for them. Also, it's fans perspective vs pros perspective. They should know 99.9% more stuff than we do. We have our list based on what we know. Yes, if they didn't do their due diligence, they should be called for it. But I guess they will.

But as far as I'm concerned, while I would pick Michkov.....I will be glad to have Smith, Benson or Leonard on my team.

My only point is this...if they pick Reinbacher, MOSTLY BASED ON NEEDS because RD....they BETTER make sure he'll become a top 2D. The only way they will be applauded for having make that pick. 'Cause the not so hard prediction to make is that players chosen after Reinbacher will play a key role. Players that if we would go BPA, should have been chosen ahead. As of today, Reinbacher has not proven that he could add the offensive points than a Seider did. Not even close. And if our analysis is that he's the new Jay Bouwmeester...well I,m not even sure in redraft that Bouw is a top 5 pick. Top 10? Surely. But top 5...maybe only because 2002 was really weak.

I don't get why the defenseman who put up the second most draft year points in NLA history is looked at like some offensive black hole.

Nobody questions Ryan Suter as a top 5 pick, do they?

 

[WeThreeKings]

Having a guy with a little less talent but that you can train feels more comfortable. That’s why a lot of scouts would pick this. It puts the pressure on the team rather than on their job. It gives some feel that they have control.

It might be true for the scout. But it’s bs for the team, IMO.

If you do you DD and you pick the right guy, all that matters is that he plays a lot and ideally gets feedback on what to work on. (Which can be done from a distance). The player obviously needs to be receptive to the feedback, though.

I think if guys with all the talent in the world aren’t receptive because they think they are the shit, it work work either way. First name that popped in my head was Filatov.

Anyway, I think the whole Michkov at distance is overblown. We are in 2023, not 1985-90. I feel like a lot of scouts think like it’s the peak of the Cold War. Even if the Russian thing does escalates(which it probably won’t), I think you can find ways to make the distance work, if Michkov doesn’t think he is Jesus…

That shouldn’t be hard to figure out.

There are shades of grey on both solutions but one just feels more comfortable because of old habits, IMO.

That doesn’t mean it’s the best one in this specific case. It might, but it doesn’t mean it is. Only way to find out is to talk to Michkov and get to know him a bit.

Which I think we can all agree should have started at minimum after the draft lotto, not after the combine

 

[Jack Skellington]

You really believe they haven't been doing their due diligence this entire time? That's the easiest answer for Kent Hughes to say without tipping his hand. He has less than zero incentive to be honest!! No offense to you personally, but you did the same thing last year reading into nothing and making predictions with such authority that I actually thought you may have worked for the team or something.

"They wont take Slafkovsky without leaking it out to the media early so their new prospect doesn't get booed at the podium"

 

[Kennerback]

Why the f*** would a source gives free and confidential information to fckng Damico guys ?

He is just trying to increase traffic to his website.

Agent and sometimes front office personal may gives clues to insider like Friedman or Dreger or Lebrun or Seravalli or Johnston to get things going but thats about it.

The rest are spewing bullshit our of their ass and are too unreliable or simply don't have the reputation to be used by agent and team personel.

I don’t doubt he got the information from a hockey guy. But it’s only one guy. And who says it’s not just his opinion. Valid info but still not super solid.

 

[26Mats]

IB has a curious reputation. I don't feel like he's an insider or anything but I've seen him nail things over the years. Maybe I'm mistaken.

In any case, Michkov, Smith, and Benson (in that order) are my only options for 5OA as well, so this validates my priors and I therefore believe every word of it. But whatever happened to the Leonard, Dvorsky, and Reinbacher talk? All the underachiever types kept insisting on them three reaches for the 5OA.

From what I've seen and read, those 3, in that order, would be my preference as well.

But, I don't know much about the credibility of that source.

 

[Kennerback]

Somebody explain this to me please. How does a certain sector go from being paranoid we aren't picking Michkov at 5 to Hughes is trying to move up to 4 to get Michkov.

If they move up to 2 they want Fantilli. If they move up to 4, it’s Smith. If they stay put, It could be Michkov or anyone else.

 

[26Mats]

At the end of the day, no one no nothing about who they gonna draft

I was interested to hear the conversations speculating about who HuGo might prefer. But the tone of the conversation has gotten quite heated.

Some are militantly convinced we're not touching Michkov. Some are militantly against not drafting Michkov.

I just look forward to seeing 1) who we pick, and then 2) in a few years how the pick turns out. I have to be patient for both. I don't expect HuGo to give too much information until draft day about who we'll pick. But I'll still follow the rumors, and signals. ..

 

[McGees]

I'm looking forward to see some of the ragers here ask some questions and bring your CAPS LOCKS AND PUNCTUATIONS!!!!!!

 

[SlafySZN]

Bob's McKenzie pre-lottery list had Smith at 3 and that's an average based on 10 NHL scouts. He's highly regarded by NHL scouts.

We’ll see in a week on the very last list of Bob

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Which I think we can all agree should have started at minimum after the draft lotto, not after the combine

You should set him right and tell him how to run his schedule

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

I found a tweet that mentions the “not be there” but according to me, not necessarily the “take him” part. I’ll dig a bit more.

But the HF Habs experts told us that if teams are passing on Michkov, there is a reason and we should do the same... Apparently, Brière disagree.

 

[Habs]

Don't think you have all the info on him, you should start here tho.

he's another stat over-inflated WHL scrub, seriously he's not worth a top pick in my mind. Him, Heidt.. easy pass for me.

 

[Kennerback]

I was interested to hear the conversations speculating about who HuGo might prefer. But the tone of the conversation has gotten quite heated.

Some are militantly convinced we're not touching Michkov. Some are militantly against not drafting Michkov.

I just look forward to seeing 1) who we pick, and then 2) in a few years how the pick turns out. I have to be patient for both. I don't expect HuGo to give too much information until draft day about who we'll pick. But I'll still follow the rumors, and signals. ..

Im good for the Top-5. But if they stray from that, they are in a can’t fail position and should be putting their job on the line. For example, yeah sure go Benson, but you need to put your head out there that he’ll be a can’t miss First Line Winger.

No wishy washy: he’ll help the team for years to come.

 

[MON4NHLTOR4MLB]

I have a feeling we’ll all be super disappointed with this years draft, both with who we draft and little to no moves of significance

 

[BenchBrawl]

Some interesting odds on Loto-Québec

I'll place some bets for sure.

 

[Kennerback]

I have a feeling we’ll all be super disappointed with this years draft, both with who we draft and little to no moves of significance

I want HuGo to tell us we’ve drafted a future star. Top 5 are stars. You are drafting 5fth. Draft a star. If you draft out of the Top-5, you’re drafting a star.

Enough of:
He was a big Habs fan as a kid. His coach and linemates really recommended him. He’s the last guy that leaves the ice. He’s also a gym rat who excells in other sports…

 

[habdynasty]

Throw a dart at the board after Bedard. There will be lots of duds as usual.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Some interesting odds on Loto-Québec

I'll place some bets for sure.

Please pray tell

 

[26Mats]

Im good for the Top-5. But if they stray from that, they are in a can’t fail position and should be putting their job on the line. For example, yeah sure go Benson, but you need to put your head out there that he’ll be a can’t miss First Line Winger.

No wishy washy: he’ll help the team for years to come.

In Jagr's draft year, Jagr was picked 5th overall. I think before him, Owen Nolan, Peter Nedved, Keith Primeau and Mike Ricci were picked. Ricci was considered can't miss but ended up being a grinder. So there's no guarantee even a top 5 guy heading into the draft will pan out.

Will Will Smith and Mickov's games translate more to the NHL? Or will Benson's translate better? Is one of Fantilli or Carlsson the next Byfield or Kakko? we'll see... But the scouts have to make their own projections. Rarely is the top 5 before the draft the same as the top 5 five years down the road.

 

[BenchBrawl]

Please pray tell

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The time is now to bet the same amount on Smith, Michkov and Benson. You'll make money if any of the three gets picked. Leonard's and Reinbacher's odds are nonsense, but they will probably change as we get closer to the draft, so better bet now.

 

[montreal]

Hoping to get Arizona to cough something up to get 5? They apparently have a huge interest in Reinbacher.


We need Suzuki to be our Stone.

I was thinking the caps wanting Michkov to replace AO.

At the end of the day, no one no nothing about who they gonna draft

well someone knows. I remember a long time ago when ISS first started, I'm talking the very start, I was in touch with the owner of the site who put me in contact with his head scout (the owner I believe was a former assistant coach in the NHL at some point if I recall, since we are talking around 20 years ago. I remember the head scout saying to me how back then at least, scouting was so small that since the scouts all knew each other, teams usually had a decent idea who most teams were in on. With the Habs I certainly knew months in advance that they were big into McDonagh who I hadn't heard of at the time but due to the info I started watching his games in the USHS.