Canadiens: Are you cheering for Edmonton?

[I am not exposed]

No. I'm a Florida fan.

 

[I am not exposed]

Assuming this question was directed towards Canadians … it’s more that I’m rooting against dickheads like Bennett, Tkachuk and Cousins.

Kane is the biggest dickhead in the series.

 

[Golden_Jet]

That's not how it works.

First gen immigrants are those who were born abroad. It's status never changes regardless as to how long they live in their host country.

Immigrant generations - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

According to USCB, the first generation of immigrants is composed of individuals who are foreign-born, which includes naturalized citizens, lawful permanent residents, protracted temporary residents (such as long-staying foreign students and migrant workers, but not tourists and family visitors), humanitarian migrants (such as refugees and asylees), and even unauthorized migrants.[2]

In some definitions, however, those born to at least one immigrant parent are considered "first generation"[1] — or rather, first generation of an immigrant's descendants (i.e. second generation from the USCB definition).

Great, still doesn’t change why I initially responded, you: nearly 2/3 are first gen, when StatsCan, says 26%.

We’re done, I’ve made my point.

 

[HugeInTheShire]

We know the curse that was placed on Canada before most of us here were born.

Are you Canadiens cheering for the Oilers to end the streak?

Or do you want it to continue until your team wins it?

You're just asking Quebec? The rest of us are Canadian.

I am cheering for the Oilers, but they're one of the only Canadian teams I would cheer for, just them and Winnipeg.

 

[Based Anime Fan]

Why would I cheer for a team just because they're in the same country as me? Blind nationalism?

And the concept of 'X player deserves the cup!'

No. No player deserves to win the cup. Either they win, or they don't. Don't care who they are, how big of a star they are. Win or don't. Deserve isn't part of the equation.

 

[RickyLafleur]

Pl

You could make an argument most of the new Canadians taking an interest in hockey are from immigrant families so your point is moot. The sport is growing and where those fans come from doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things.

Growing the game in what way exactly?

Hockey enrollment has been trending downwards in Canada since 2006, with a slight rebound after COVID.

 

[InfinityIggy]

As a Flames fan, I would have to commit sudoku as recompense for such a dishonour on my family. Ironically, only Oilers fans will understand.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Growing the game in what way exactly?

Hockey enrollment has been trending downwards in Canada since 2006, with a slight rebound after COVID.

Thanks, actually in the article, the graph shows the number increasing as a trend for Canada, until Covid,
07/08 - 559k
18/19 - 644k
19/20 -605k
20/21 - 385k
21/22 - 521k

hard to say if it gets back to pre Covid high. Not sure of last 2 years numbers as not listed.

Also for Ontario
Between 2006-07 and 2021-22, the number of Ontario kids enrolled in hockey fell by nearly 20 percent (241,500 in 2006-07 to 203,100 in 2021-22) even though the total number of kids under age 17 was nearly identical at 2.77 million.

So kids number stable, decline is in adults, in Ontario.

 

[Voight]

Questions like this are weird. Are all American fans cheering for Florida? Probably not.

 

[Drytoast]

Great, still doesn’t change why I initially responded, you: nearly 2/3 are first gen, when StatsCan, says 26%.

We’re done, I’ve made my point.

I was PROJECTING. You are talking about now. You can't mathmatically expand a population from 38M to 100M in less than 80 years without the vast majority being first gen immigrants who will not really assimulate to Canadian culture but instead retain their own interests with things like sports.

It's fine. It is what it is. But that's the reality.

As such over the course of the next 50 years I fully expect expensive hockey to take a back seat to European soccer.

Questions like this are weird. Are all American fans cheering for Florida? Probably not.

tell me about it. Our entire nation is insecure about hockey.

 

[Connor McConnor]

Growing the game in what way exactly?

Hockey enrollment has been trending downwards in Canada since 2006, with a slight rebound after COVID.

Has nothing to do with demographic shifts or the conversation I was having and has everything to do with increased costs

 

[Golden_Jet]

tell me about it. Our entire nation is insecure about hockey.

Well no need to project then, if you want to be technical, North America is 100% based on immigrants.

Also, you’re not speaking for the entire nation, most I know arent insecure about hockey. That’s hyperbole, “our entire nation”.

Anyways you obviously like the last word on everything. So have at it, enjoy the weather.

 

[beachcomber]

27 Canucks in the finals, 3 Yanks and a smattering of euros. Doesn’t really matter if a Canadian team wins.

 

[blundluntman]

As an alleged Canadien that's conveniently lived in Tennessee his whole life, I too am cheering for Edmonton

 

[MeHateHe]

(Maybe MTL can get McDavid for one of Barron/Harris + Mesar + WPG 1st)

Why do people do this?

 

[Drytoast]

Well no need to project then, if you want to be technical, North America is 100% based on immigrants.

Also, you’re not speaking for the entire nation, most I know arent insecure about hockey. That’s hyperbole, “our entire nation”.

Anyways you obviously like the last word on everything. So have at it, enjoy the weather.

Anyone that's turned these finals into a Canada vs US thing are insecure.

It's a bunch of Canadians playing another bunch of Canadians. We had a team Canada...they couldn't get bronze.

 

[NyQuil]

I’m cheering for McDavid to win a championship.

But I did pick Florida in my bracket so it would work out too.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Canadian people are a changing demographic. We will likely see a surge in cricket and a decline in the interest of hockey

The patriots in here are just self hating ones that have an inferiority complex and cry about how hard it is to win a cup in canada and that betman is against us when all 6 teams have actually had some of the most putrid management league wide for several decades ,they blame anybody and everything except the actual people in charge of running canadian teams lol. Blame taxes blame the weather but don't blame the neanderthals that keep getting hired because of nepotism around the board in these canadian markets lool

 

[Rowlet]

No, I want Luongo to get his

 

[Drytoast]

The patriots in here are just self hating ones that have an inferiority complex and cry about how hard it is to win a cup in canada and that betman is against us when all 6 teams have actually had some of the most putrid management league wide for several decades ,they blame anybody and everything except the actual people in charge of running canadian teams lol. Blame taxes blame the weather but don't blame the neanderthals that keep getting hired because of nepotism around the board in these canadian markets lool

While I agree, to be fair NHL players are kind of weak sauce compared to other leagues. Attention players recieved in Canada , specifically Montreal and Toronto are not close to the attention a basketball or football player gets in America.

The fact that they run off to smaller markets to hide from attention by putting Canadian markets on their no trade lists is pathetic in itself.

 

[Drytoast]

Well no need to project then, if you want to be technical, North America is 100% based on immigrants.

Also, you’re not speaking for the entire nation, most I know arent insecure about hockey. That’s hyperbole, “our entire nation”.

Anyways you obviously like the last word on everything. So have at it, enjoy the weather.

If the people you are talking too have turned this into America vs Canada...yes. they are insecure

 

[Petey O]

I'd rather cheer for the Bruins to win another cup than I would for Edmonton or Toronto to win another.

 

[MeHateHe]

As a Flames fan, I would have to commit sudoku as recompense for such a dishonour on my family. Ironically, only Oilers fans will understand.

Sudoku? Just don't commit crossword. (Of course hockey fans are more likely to commit word search than crossword.)

 

[MCR74]

No.

 

[BurnabyJoe7]

Kane is the biggest dickhead in the series.

It's Cousins AINEC. Bennett, Kane, Perry and Tkachuk are all interchangeable in the next tier but none of them are throwing career ending hits like cousins did regularly this year.