Canada vs the World
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leafsfuture
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I would remove Wheeler, Eichel and add Kucherov & Draisatl.
Other than that looks good. The fact that Shattenkirk didnt make team USA is telling
JackSlater
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This will be a popular thread if Canada loses. A world team is probably stronger than team Canada, provided the players play cohesively.
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No big deal. You could get some guy sitting around the house with his dog and that team would be better.
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A World team would win.
But it would be a good game.
From your team, i'm removing Eichel (not ready yet) and Pavelski (hasn't played well on biggest stage). I'm replacing them with Barkov and Matthews.
Line 1: Gaudreau - Kopitar - Tarasenko
Line 2: Ovechkin - Backstrom - Kane
Line 3: Forsberg - Malkin - Kessel
Line 4: Matthews - Barkov - Wheeler
Voracek (can play LW or RW)
Three of the four centers are great defensively. Good mixture of experience, youth, size and speed and every one of them has an elite skill.
No changes made from your defense. Thought about Carlson over Shattenkirk but haven't been impressed with his international play either.
Defense 1: Ekman-Larsson - Karlsson
Defense 2: Hedman - Josi
Defense 3: Suter - Shattenkirk
Klingberg
Goalie 1: Schneider
Goalie 2: Lundqvist
Goalie 3: Rinne
But it would be a good game.
From your team, i'm removing Eichel (not ready yet) and Pavelski (hasn't played well on biggest stage). I'm replacing them with Barkov and Matthews.
Line 1: Gaudreau - Kopitar - Tarasenko
Line 2: Ovechkin - Backstrom - Kane
Line 3: Forsberg - Malkin - Kessel
Line 4: Matthews - Barkov - Wheeler
Voracek (can play LW or RW)
Three of the four centers are great defensively. Good mixture of experience, youth, size and speed and every one of them has an elite skill.
No changes made from your defense. Thought about Carlson over Shattenkirk but haven't been impressed with his international play either.
Defense 1: Ekman-Larsson - Karlsson
Defense 2: Hedman - Josi
Defense 3: Suter - Shattenkirk
Klingberg
Goalie 1: Schneider
Goalie 2: Lundqvist
Goalie 3: Rinne
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hitmen19
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assuming a healthy Canadian team, it would be a great game and a toss up in my opinion. Benn, Keith would both definetly need to be there imo.
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Adding Benn and Keith would certainly make a huge difference.
What I like about the world team is that they will have more guys playing their natural positions. Canada uses mostly centers as wingers. World would also have a slight advantage on Defense.
leafsfuture
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Agreed.
The world has a lot of elite wingers, while in Canada we produce center after center. I dont think Canada without Keith, Benn and Seguin would beat the World, but with those guys (I consider Benn to be the best Canadian forward right now), it makes a difference
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Ovechkin--Backstrom--Kane
Gaudreau--Malkin--Tarasenko
Panarin--Kopitar--Kucherov
Forsberg--Pavelski--Kessel
Barkov
Suter--Karlsson
OEL--Hedman
Josi--Shattenkirk
McDonagh/Carlson
Schneider
Lundqvist
Rask
Gaudreau--Malkin--Tarasenko
Panarin--Kopitar--Kucherov
Forsberg--Pavelski--Kessel
Barkov
Suter--Karlsson
OEL--Hedman
Josi--Shattenkirk
McDonagh/Carlson
Schneider
Lundqvist
Rask
Fair replacements. I took a long look at Barkov and Matthews but I thought Pavelski offered more in terms of leadership and experience while not losing much in other areas. Eichel and Matthews, to me, are both great players but I chose the more known commodity. Same kind of thing with Klingberg: great player but I have no idea if what he did last year is sustainable, he would be a fantastic option at seven.
Originally I was a little concerned that there was four left d, but Josi and Hedman are so good I'm sure they'd make it work not having a righty to lean on.
Good point, it's nice to have a depth at center but it still takes some time to get used to the wing again. In a game against a team that has just as much skill this could be a massive advantage.
You would not get "Team World" to care, especially since they are facing a single country. But a way to get two maxed out teams to actually care, is to make it Team NA (US/Canada) vs. Team Europe (SWE/FIN/RUS/etc).
Best of 5 series. Would be awesome.
Best of 5 series. Would be awesome.
Mr Positive
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Here's why Canada would win this without much problem: this current team has stayed together for a long time. Bergeron, Crosby, Thornton, Burns, Vlasic, Doughty, etc and there must be at least 10 players who are now fully used to each other.
I would argue that the Olympic year where Canada got 4th after losing to the Czechs, that team Canada was a much bigger all star team than this current team Canada. It was the superior video game roster.
I would argue that the Olympic year where Canada got 4th after losing to the Czechs, that team Canada was a much bigger all star team than this current team Canada. It was the superior video game roster.
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Big Phil
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This has been talked about since the mid 1990s. The only thing is that if you want a tournament with some actual teeth to it, how can you get Americans, Russians, Czechs, Swedes, Finns, etc. to be motivated to beat a country? Where is the incentive? Is it for USA? Russia? Who? So there is that problem I think. This is more suited to an all-star format. North America vs. the World was a great format. I loved it. And the NHL did what they should have done, keep a gimmick like that in the all-star game and not a tournament that is supposed to decide hockey superiority.
That being said, in a fantasy type of way, Canada definitely has the star power to compete and maybe surpass the World team. Add members to this team that were injured such as Benn, Seguin and Keith. Then maybe a couple defensemen that would boost the star power like Letang and Subban. McDavid has got to replace someone along the way. So yeah, they could win for sure. We'll just never know.
That being said, in a fantasy type of way, Canada definitely has the star power to compete and maybe surpass the World team. Add members to this team that were injured such as Benn, Seguin and Keith. Then maybe a couple defensemen that would boost the star power like Letang and Subban. McDavid has got to replace someone along the way. So yeah, they could win for sure. We'll just never know.
Ben White
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You've got to have Ovi n Backstrom together, Ovi is not exactly better off alone... OEL + EK doesn't work better Hjalmarsson (aka Euro Vlasic) with EK. Maybe OEL as 7th D, it's between him n Josi. Klingberg needs consideration off course. Don't think Malkin's that good anymore rather Kuznetsov. Sedins need consideration.. Panarin also. Hm...
Gaudreau - Kopitar - Kane
Ovi - Backstrom - Tarasenko
Forsberg - Kuzi - Wheeler
Steen - Pavelski - Panarin
Eichel
EK - Hedman
Josi - Shattenkirk
OEL - Hammer
Suter/Klingberg
Lundqvist
Schneider
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Pavelski over Malkin is sheer lunacy..especially after the Finals and World Cup Pavelski just had.
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For that reason, I'd put Pavelski on wing. He's played there for many years now. The only time he plays center is for Team USA (so a few games). He's better on the right (with a left handed playmaking center) but plays well on the left too. He's also much better if he has a shooter (like Burns) so he can deflect pucks. He plays in front of the net; using him another way is not playing to his strengths so he's going to score fewer points. He's one of the NHL's top scorers if used correctly, otherwise he should be on the team for his versatility (can play LW, RW, center, PP and PK, is good defensively), not scoring.
After watching this tournament, I'd put Kuzy, Matthews, Barkov, Malkin, or Drai as center and move Pavelski to wing. In OP's line up, I'd replace Forsberg with Pavs (bc of his chemistry with Kessel, though he'd be great with Backstrom too), then replace Pavs with one of the above. I'd probably replace Eichel with another from the above centers. I agree that the Sedins should be considered too.
I might want to move Ovi with Backstrom (have to see how he plays with Kopitar but probably his familiarity with Backstrom would be better). Put Hedman with Karlsson. Consider Hjalmarsson over Josi.
Ben White
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Nah, change my mind.
Gaudreau \ Kopitar \ Kane - (the Brain and the Speedsters)
Ovi \ Backstrom \ Pavelski - (Capitals chemistry and One)
Sedin \ Sedin \ Tarasenko - (Sedinery deluxe)
Forsberg \ Kuzi \ Wheeler - (Blake n' Filip going nuts with the new genius)
Panarin or Malkin - (X-tra engine when needed)
Hedman \ EK - (Swedish D on steroids)
Josi \ Shattenkirk - (Josis's got a new Webber)
OEL \ Hjalmarsson - (Swedes on steroids runner up)
Suter or Klingberg or Lindholm - (the New EK, the New Lidstrom or something completely different)
Hank (The King)
Schneider (Mr. President)
Bobrovsky (Tsar)
This team would have an edge on team Canada.
Gaudreau \ Kopitar \ Kane - (the Brain and the Speedsters)
Ovi \ Backstrom \ Pavelski - (Capitals chemistry and One)
Sedin \ Sedin \ Tarasenko - (Sedinery deluxe)
Forsberg \ Kuzi \ Wheeler - (Blake n' Filip going nuts with the new genius)
Panarin or Malkin - (X-tra engine when needed)
Hedman \ EK - (Swedish D on steroids)
Josi \ Shattenkirk - (Josis's got a new Webber)
OEL \ Hjalmarsson - (Swedes on steroids runner up)
Suter or Klingberg or Lindholm - (the New EK, the New Lidstrom or something completely different)
Hank (The King)
Schneider (Mr. President)
Bobrovsky (Tsar)
This team would have an edge on team Canada.
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