WJC: Canada 2018 Roster Talk

[tfantasy]

Do you guys remember McCleod barely player last year. He became out 13th forward. Just thought of that. He barely got any ice

 

[tfantasy]

Raddysh - Steel - Kyrou
Dube - McCleod - Tippett
Steenbergen - Phillips - Suzuki
Smith - Comtois - Lind
Batherson

Clague-Girard
Mete-Fabbro
Bean-Stanley
Foote

Hart
DiPietro

 

[Boonk]

My Team Canada line-up

Forwards:
Jonah Gadjovich
Michael McLeod
Alex Formenton
Taylor Raddysh
Robert Thomas
Brett Howden
Owen Tippett
Jordan Kyrou
Dillon Dube
Nick Suzuki
Cody Glass
Kole Lind
Sam Steel

Defensemen:
Dennis Cholowski
Samuel Girard
Dante Fabbro
Josh Mahura
Callan Foote
Kale Clague
Cale Makar

Goaltenders:
Michael DiPietro
Carter Hart

Forward line configurations

Gadjovich - Steel - Kyrou
Tippett - McLeod - Raddysh
Howden - Glass - Dube
Formenton - Suzuki - Lind
13th Forward: Thomas

D-Pairing configuartions

Girard - Fabbro
Clague - Foote
Cholowski - Makar
7th D-man: Mahura

Starting Goalie: Hart
Backup Goalie: DiPietro

 

[jj cale]

I've seen Batherson and he is playing pretty well this year. Not sure if that would get him an invitation. Do we know if he has Canadian citizenship though? Born in USA, played minor hockey in Nova Scotia and as far as I know he hasn't played in an IIHF tournament yet.

NNova SCotia
its an interesting story................I knew as soon as i saw his family was from Nova Scotia that it was Norm Bathersons son, on great Acadia teams that wacked a few good NCAA teams. His grand uncle is Matt Minglewood too......................lovely

 

[JackSlater]

NNova SCotia
its an interesting story................I knew as soon as i saw his family was from Nova Scotia that it was Norm Bathersons son, on great Acadia teams that wacked a few good NCAA teams. His grand uncle is Matt Minglewood too......................lovely

I will try not to hold his connection to such a lowly institution against him.

Regarding Batherson, I decided to watch him tonight. Pretty impressive. Had one goal, three assists. A fight too. Absolutely carrying a very weak Cape Breton team. The guy has more goals than anyone else on the team has points. I'm not expecting that he can keep this pace up or anything, but the upcoming games against the Russian selects will be very interesting for Batherson and should help to indicate whether he is a serious prospect for the WJC or not.

 

[1Gold Standard]

I will try not to hold his connection to such a lowly institution against him.

Regarding Batherson, I decided to watch him tonight. Pretty impressive. Had one goal, three assists. A fight too. Absolutely carrying a very weak Cape Breton team. The guy has more goals than anyone else on the team has points. I'm not expecting that he can keep this pace up or anything, but the upcoming games against the Russian selects will be very interesting for Batherson and should help to indicate whether he is a serious prospect for the WJC or not.

love these pleasant surprises...

I may even consider, albeit for a few seconds, watching 2 games of the CHL/Russia series... odds are I won't watch a minute, but at least I'm considering it.

with a new head scout at Hockey Canada, he may not want to go out too far out on a limb his first kick at the can with a few of these late bloomers and instead stick with those players having POE experience and w/ draft pedigree.

I'd love to see players like Steenbergen and Batherson make it over players like Dube.

I guess we can officially cross Mete off the list.

any news with Girard?

I think the best we can hope for is for 1 of Tippet or Girard.

 

[JackSlater]

love these pleasant surprises...

I may even consider, albeit for a few seconds, watching 2 games of the CHL/Russia series... odds are I won't watch a minute, but at least I'm considering it.

with a new head scout at Hockey Canada, he may not want to go out too far out on a limb his first kick at the can with a few of these late bloomers and instead stick with those players having POE experience and w/ draft pedigree.

I'd love to see players like Steenbergen and Batherson make it over players like Dube.

I guess we can officially cross Mete off the list.

any news with Girard?

I think the best we can hope for is for 1 of Tippet or Girard.

Even with Batherson looking fo good, or the insane numbers being put up by Steenbergen, I would still be reluctant to pick them for the team. These guys have almost no international experience and I am always somewhat suspicious when someone comes from out of nowhere, at least relative to the elite level. Give them a chance to make the team if they keep dominating at the junior level, ie super series and camp invites, but I would want to see them be among the best players in those situations before seriously considering them. Experience does have a place at these tournaments. I am certainly hopeful that the coaches don't automatically select the players with WJC experience though. Looking specifically at 2017 trainwreck and alleged offensive defenceman Bean and his 0 goals so far.

I am still surprised about Mete. I have seen him play this year and he is competent so it isn't egregious, but I don't really like young players just coming to the NHL to hold their head above water, especially on tire fire teams. I am hoping that both Girard and Tippett get sent down. Each only has 3 games played this year. I don't really care if Tippett is on the WJC team, but Girard would be an asset (and should have been on the team last year).

In Elliotte Friedman's column this week he talked about Hockey Canada considering using some top CHLers (like Kyrou) in preparatory tournaments for the Olympics. Not that this has been agreed upon or even that it looks likely, but that it is being discussed. This could conflict with the WJC. I have no interest in Canada losing some useful WJC players just to assess players for a meaningless Olympic tournament. I would honestly rather have access to all Canadian CHLers and see Canada lose in the Olympics than lose even a single CHLer and have Canada guaranteed to win at the Olympics.

 

[1Gold Standard]

Even with Batherson looking fo good, or the insane numbers being put up by Steenbergen, I would still be reluctant to pick them for the team. These guys have almost no international experience and I am always somewhat suspicious when someone comes from out of nowhere, at least relative to the elite level. Give them a chance to make the team if they keep dominating at the junior level, ie super series and camp invites, but I would want to see them be among the best players in those situations before seriously considering them. Experience does have a place at these tournaments. I am certainly hopeful that the coaches don't automatically select the players with WJC experience though. Looking specifically at 2017 trainwreck and alleged offensive defenceman Bean and his 0 goals so far.

I am still surprised about Mete. I have seen him play this year and he is competent so it isn't egregious, but I don't really like young players just coming to the NHL to hold their head above water, especially on tire fire teams. I am hoping that both Girard and Tippett get sent down. Each only has 3 games played this year. I don't really care if Tippett is on the WJC team, but Girard would be an asset (and should have been on the team last year).

In Elliotte Friedman's column this week he talked about Hockey Canada considering using some top CHLers (like Kyrou) in preparatory tournaments for the Olympics. Not that this has been agreed upon or even that it looks likely, but that it is being discussed. This could conflict with the WJC. I have no interest in Canada losing some useful WJC players just to assess players for a meaningless Olympic tournament. I would honestly rather have access to all Canadian CHLers and see Canada lose in the Olympics than lose even a single CHLer and have Canada guaranteed to win at the Olympics.

I never heard that. it sounds like a typical great Hockey Canada idea. and by great I mean stupid.

 

[JackSlater]

I never heard that. it sounds like a typical great Hockey Canada idea. and by great I mean stupid.

Not remotely impressed with Renney's ideas. From what Friedman said, the CHL is against the idea and Hockey Canada is in negotiations for access to some juniors. It doesn't make sense on a few levels.

 

[jj cale]

I will try not to hold his connection to such a lowly institution against him.

Regarding Batherson, I decided to watch him tonight. Pretty impressive. Had one goal, three assists. A fight too. Absolutely carrying a very weak Cape Breton team. The guy has more goals than anyone else on the team has points. I'm not expecting that he can keep this pace up or anything, but the upcoming games against the Russian selects will be very interesting for Batherson and should help to indicate whether he is a serious prospect for the WJC or not.

I couldnt stop laughing at the opening sentence. Not sure what your beef is with Acadia but I assume it comes from personal experience and thats good enough for me.

Sounds like the kid had a whale of a game, what does he do well and whats his size?

 

[JackSlater]

I couldnt stop laughing at the opening sentence. Not sure what your beef is with Acadia but I assume it comes from personal experience and thats good enough for me.

Sounds like the kid had a whale of a game, what does he do well and whats his size?

Pretty smart, good accurate shot, not so dynamic. Decent size for junior. I will probably see him play again tomorrow. Cape Breton is pretty entertaining in that at least one team is likely to pile up goals.

 

[BrettM]

After analyzing the roster lists for the Canada/Russia challenge, I've compiled a list of players who I believe will be invited to selection camp.

Maxime Comtois-Victoriaville Tigres
Dillon Dube-Kelowna Rockets
Pierre-Luc Dubois-Columbus Blue Jackets*
Jonah Gadjovich-Owen Sound Attack
Cody Glass-Portland Winterhawks
Brett Howden-Moose Jaw Warriors
Tyson Jost-Colorado Avalanche
Boris Katchouk-Sault Ste.Marie Greyhounds
Jordan Kyrou-Sarnia Sting
Michael McLeod-New Jersey Devils*
Nolan Patrick-Philadelphia Flyers*
Matthew Phillips-Victoria Royals
Taylor Raddysh-Erie Otters
Givani Smith-Guelph Storm
Sam Steel-Regina Pats
Tyler Steenbergen-Swift Current Broncos
Nick Suzuki-Owen Sound Attack
Owen Tippett-Florida Panthers*
Gabe Vilardi-Windsor Spitfires

*Jack Studnicka-Oshawa Generals (Alternate one)
**Drake Batherson-Cape Breton Screaming Eagles(Alternate two)
***Pascal Laberge-Victoriaville Tigres(Alternate three)
****Tyler Benson-Vancouver Giants(Alternate four)

Defenceman:

Jake Bean-Calgary Hitmen
Dennis Cholowski-Prince George Cougars
Kale Clague-Brandon Wheat Kings
Dante Fabbro-Boston University
Cal Foote-Kelowna Rockets
Samuel Girard-Nashville Predators *
Nic Hague-Mississauga Steelheads
Cale Makar-UMASS-Amherst
Victor Mete-Montreal Canadiens*
Logan Stanley-Kitchener Rangers

Antoine Crete-Bezile 18 Blainville-Boisbriand Armada *Alternate one if one of Girard/Mete don't get loaned
Connor Timmins 19-Sault Ste.Marie Greyhounds *Alternate two if both Girard/Mete don't get loaned.


Goaltenders:
Michael Dipietro-Windsor Spitfires
Carter Hart-Everett Silvertips
Samuel Harvey-Rouyn-Noranda Huskies

 

[tfantasy]

Raddysh - Steel - Kyrou = Goals and more goals
Steenbergen - Phillips - Tippett = Pure goal scoring
Dube - McCleod - Suzuki = Great skating line not sure what im tyring to say here but a solid line overall
Smith - Comtois - Lind = Ferocious checking line that could even hurt this team if we seriously went with these three
Glass = have a weird feeling he's going to have a big game in the Can/Rus series. Maybe a goal and two helpers in one game then also doing well against the CIS/University all-stars

Mete-Girard
Clague-Fabbro
Stanley-Foote
Bean

Hart
DiPietro

 

[JackSlater]

Dubois is officially staying with Columbus. Nice seeing a third overall pick playing 12 minutes per game on third and fourth lines.

 

[1Gold Standard]

Dubois is officially staying with Columbus. Nice seeing a third overall pick playing 12 minutes per game on third and fourth lines.

It's the lather Rinse Repeat development philosophy with a lot of these NHL teams and dumb dumb GMs. In 5 years time there'll be that inevitable contract squabble with the team arguing unmet expectations, level of play not consistent with the player's contractual demands, followed by a player holdout and trade me request; and all the while those intelligent hockey fans who today claim said player has nothing left to learn in junior will morph into "perhaps he was rushed into the NHL, lets trade him and cut our losses.

 

[JackSlater]

It's the lather Rinse Repeat development philosophy with a lot of these NHL teams and dumb dumb GMs. In 5 years time there'll be that inevitable contract squabble with the team arguing unmet expectations, level of play not consistent with the player's contractual demands, followed by a player holdout and trade me request; and all the while those intelligent hockey fans who today claim said player has nothing left to learn in junior will morph into "perhaps he was rushed into the NHL, lets trade him and cut our losses.

It is particularly perplexing when Columbus drafted him apparently in part because they thought that he had potential at centre. Letting him play centre in junior makes more sense than having him play wing on the third line if you want a centre down the road. It;'s somewhat disappointing but I hope that Dubois works out well for Columbus.

Official word is also out that Mete is staying in Montreal. Pretty surprising for a player drafted in his spot, but good for him for improving on expectations.

 

[Bob Barker]

Mete has been told he is staying with the Habs, per TSN

 

[1Gold Standard]

my weekly update.

changes from last week:

I'm sold on Formenton
and Katchouk is added. Rasmussen is out (even though I'm a big Rasmussen fan) along with Mascherin. Lewis and Phillips can battle for the extra forward spot.
Steenbergen is still a question mark, but I do hope answers all those questions in the upcoming WHL/Russia games.

What's the news with Hart and his recovery from mono?

Despite the fact we are missing 10 players either due NHL or injury, it could still be a gold medal contender....and given the fact that I was all doom and gloom - the sky is falling - on the 98s a few years back, we're in decent shape.

T STEENBERGEN	S STEEL	K LIND
A FORMENTON	N SUZUKI	J KYROU
B HOWDEN	S MATTHEOS	T RADDYSH
B KATCHOUK	C GLASS	D DUBE

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

T LEWIS M PHILLIPS

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

K CLAGUE	C MAKAR
N HAGUE	C FOOTE
D CHOLOWSKI	D FABBRO
	E BOUCHARD

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

C HART

M DIPIETRO

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[kyle44]

This looks good, but I personally cannot see any scenario where Robert Thomas doesn't make this team if he's healthy. He's one of the best all around players I've seen in the CHL.

I'd also switch Hague with Mahura. Given his summer camp and play thus far this year I think he'll make a strong case.

I know your thoughts on Bean but again I can't envision a scenario where he isn't selected.

 

[JackSlater]

This looks good, but I personally cannot see any scenario where Robert Thomas doesn't make this team if he's healthy. He's one of the best all around players I've seen in the CHL.

I'd also switch Hague with Mahura. Given his summer camp and play thus far this year I think he'll make a strong case.

I know your thoughts on Bean but again I can't envision a scenario where he isn't selected.

Is Thomas particularly good defensively? I've seen him described as a two way player and I have seen him play a bit, but I am curious. There is always a need for a centre who can handle the defensive load.

Also, nice to see Dubois staying in the NHL and getting just over 4 minutes of ice time in his last game. Good stuff.

 

[Rob]

I would be happy with bronze.

 

[Snippit]

Lot of high IQ guys with good speed and skill on this team.

I'm pretty optimistic, at least about the forward group.

There's no way Thomas doesn't make it.

 

[1Gold Standard]

Lot of high IQ guys with good speed and skill on this team.

I'm pretty optimistic, at least about the forward group.

There's no way Thomas doesn't make it.

I wouldn't mind seeing how a Formenton-Thomas-Mattheos/Raddysh line would work. In that case I'd prefer Stelio at RW over Taylor. a 99 line with all 3 coming back for the Van/Victoria tournament. + I'm not Taylor's biggest fan.

 

[Stizzle]

What's the news with Hart and his recovery from mono?

I believe Everett's Twitter account posted a picture of him returning to practice this week.

 

[Tbaywingfan]

Steenbergen- Steel- Kyrou
Tippett- McLeod- Raddysh
Howden- Glass- Suzuki
Dube- Phillips- Katchouk
Thomas

If Tippett is not made available by Florida, swap him with Lewis

Girard-Fabbro
Clague-Makar
Bean-Foote
Cholowski

If Girard is not made available by Nashville, I'd put Mahura on the team

Hart
DiPietro