Matt Nieto was tripped on a breakaway during tonight's game against the Rangers. I'm sure the Avs would rather have a power play than have Nieto take a penalty shot.
Can you reject a penalty shot and get a power play instead?
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Yes. Happens all the time. You shouldn’t feel bad about making this thread.
deca guard
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should be both a penalty shot and a power play to put an end to hockeys most exciting play being wrecked every time
IMO should be penalty shot, if the player doesn't score then the team gets a PP. If the player scores then no PP.
deca guard
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Why take the only "fair" disciplinary intervention in hockey, and ruin it for no reason? You got a breakaway, you got impeded on the breakaway, you get to take another breakaway unimpeded. It's perfect. As far as I'm concerned, they can change everything in the rulebook except for the penalty shot.
Adding a PP on top would just disincentivize Dmen from even trying to defend, since even a legal pokecheck would risk giving the other team multiple chances to score. It would be infuriating for everyone.
deca guard
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not perfect for 2 reasons :
1- many a time the diving dman trips the breaker into dangerously wrecking into net or end boards . many many times per season breakers barely dodge injurys on these trips
2- a penalty shot is no where near as exciting as a live break away which is far n away the most exciting play in hockey
1-That's a risk involved in any tripping call, and it doesn't seem to me that it results in a disproportionate amount of injuries. I could be wrong; I'd be curious if there's data that shows otherwise.
2-Honestly, to me, a breakaway and a PS are similarly exciting. If anything, the PS is a bit more exciting because it's more rare. But even if you feel differently, I just feel it's wrong to disproportionately punish Dmen just to make things more exciting. Plus, it would hugely encourage diving on every breakaway, because the reward for the call is so big.
Given that half the posts on here are complaints of officiating, I'm not sure why people are constantly suggesting to give the refs more powers and more responsibilities.
That time when Danny Briere stood there with the puck for what seemed like 15 minutes doing nothing in Tampa Bay? Oh you mean penalty shots
AaronDellForPrez
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On a real breakaway you can tip in a rebound, but not on a penalty shot. why?
I think there should be a trailing defender on a penalty shot.. that has to wait an extra second before chasing the shooter.. and the play continues until a goal, the goalie traps the puck or the defender gains control. More like a real breakaway.
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I've watched at least a few hockey games a year with my father (a lot more back in the day when I lived at home) and he has a few rule changes he's been suggesting to me as long as I can remember and this is one of them.
And he's right. You should be able to take 2 minutes instead.
And he's right. You should be able to take 2 minutes instead.
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If a penalty is committed, then there should be a 2 minute minor. The penalty being committed during a breakaway shouldn’t negate that. A goal being scored would, as you said. (I’m agreeing with you, in case you are one of those people that think any response is some kind of attack)
You're twice as likely to score on a penalty shot as on a power play. I'd rather have the penalty shot.
AaronDellForPrez
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How about every time a team commits a penalty, the other team is allowed an extra skater until they score (up to a maximum of 12 players on one team)
If it is a 5 minute major, then the other team is also allowed to pick the puck up with their hands and throw it at the net, but only from behind the blue line.
If two 5 minute majors happen, and a team reaches its 12 skater limit, then that team is free to tackle any player, including the goalie, and also use pepper spray.
If it is a 5 minute major, then the other team is also allowed to pick the puck up with their hands and throw it at the net, but only from behind the blue line.
If two 5 minute majors happen, and a team reaches its 12 skater limit, then that team is free to tackle any player, including the goalie, and also use pepper spray.
This is ridiculous. The non offending team should not be disadvantaged by something as silly as a 12 player limit.
Out of interest - can you think of a good reason to tackle anyone other than the goalie?
AaronDellForPrez
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You could create odd man rushes. Although... is a 10 on 4 considered an odd man rush?
If these rules had been implemented in this sharks/ducks game I had the pleasure of attending, it would have been even more epic..
Butch 19
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So, even the mention of pepper spray didn't give this one away?
Did I mention PEPPER SPRAY?? think about that for second or two...
SnowblindNYR
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I'd rather have the penalty shot unless you're leading with 2 minutes or fewer left in the game.
aufheben
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Brad Marchand has 9 goals in 44 shootout attempts , and went 0 for 7 this year, Jagr scored 7 in 32 attempts, and Daniel Sedin 5 in 31 attempts.
There are also some other pretty notable players with bad shootout percentages such as Bergeron, Iginla, St Louis, Tavares, and Zetterberg.
Now if you consider there to be major differences between the shootout and a penalty shot, there are also some big names with penalty shot percentages below 20.
Ovechkin has 2 goals in 12 attempts
Nash 2 goals 11 attempts
Mike Richards 0 for 7
Malkin 0 for 6
MSL 0 for 7
Somehow Brad Marchand has 4 goals in 7 attempts. Pavel Bure scored 7 goals in 11 shootout attempts, Lemieux scored 6 goals in 8 attempts. Wayne Gretzky also only shot 20% on his penalty shots.
aufheben
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Still, this is comparing players who were poor in shootouts to what would be the best PPs in the league. I don't care if it's Tanner Glass shooting, I'm almost always going with the shooter instead of a PP. The average shooter has to be way higher than the average PP.
