C Shane Wright (2022, 4th, SEA) Part 4

[Ace]

If theyre afraid he’s not mentally tough enough to remain engaged in a junior league he didn’t dominate as expected last year…I don’t even know what to tell them.

this isn't the way.

if questions about his engagement and effort dropping him to 4 didn’t humble him enough to recognize the problem I don’t think scratching him over and over or playing him 6 minutes is going to do it either.

what will do it is throwing him back and telling him there’s a reason we don’t play you and there’s a reason you watched three other players get their names called. Now go work on fixing that reason.

 

[Dominance]

How is Francis okay with this idiocy

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

With every scratch, my theory that they are spacing out his games so he does not exceed 9 games played before Team Canada WJC Camp in early December is gaining steam. 5 more weeks of this.

The other thing is Kingston is 6-3-1. If they get Wright back now, they probably win at a higher clip and keep him. The more the Kraken wait, it becomes likely the Fronts probably don't maintain that type of pace and will have to entertain trading his rights before the trade deadline and Wright can join a high end contender like the 67's, Petes, Spitfires, etc appear to be.

 

[Garbageyuk]

With every scratch, my theory that they are spacing out his games so he does not exceed 9 games played before Team Canada WJC Camp in early December is gaining steam. 5 more weeks of this.

The other thing is Kingston is 6-3-1. If they get Wright back now, they probably win at a higher clip and keep him. The more the Kraken wait, it becomes likely the Fronts probably don't maintain that type of pace and will have to entertain trading his rights before the trade deadline and Wright can join a high end contender like the 67's, Petes, Spitfires, etc appear to be.

This, or they are just idiots. Which is more likely?

 

[TheNumber4]

Tin foil hat things, but Francis looked reluctant making this pick. Like he didn’t believe in Shane but since he dropped he reluctantly had to take him.

 

[gstommylee]

So sending him back to the jrs to do WHAT exctly? None of us have no idea how to run a team or to actually develop players.. How will playing against teens for hte sake of playing against teens just for ice team get him any closer. Its not going to make him any more better next season cause he stil going to have the same adjusting period to NHLers. He is not going to get that adjustment by playing in the jrs for the next 2 year (yes two years cause he won't be any better than he is now to get regular top 9 mins next seaon) since he can't play in the AHL until age 20.

Tin foil hat things, but Francis looked reluctant making this pick. Like he didn’t believe in Shane but since he dropped he reluctantly had to take him.

Oh good god that is the lames take what so ever. Seattle was suprised he fell to them nothing more. There is no reluctantly...

 

[PeteWorrell]

So sending him back to the jrs to do WHAT exctly? None of us have no idea how to run a team or to actually develop players.. How will playing against teens for hte sake of playing against teens just for ice team get him any closer. Its not going to make him any more better next season cause he stil going to have the same adjusting period to NHLers. He is not going to get that adjustment by playing in the jrs for the next 2 year (yes two years cause he won't be any better than he is now to get regular top 9 mins next seaon) since he can't play in the AHL until age 20.



Oh good god that is the lames take what so ever. Seattle was suprised he fell to them nothing more. There is no reluctantly...

Considering that he has never dominated like he should at the junior level; i would say he still has plenty to learn there.

 

[gstommylee]

Considering that he has never dominated like he should at the junior level; i would say he still has plenty to learn there.

Dominating against teens does exactly what against NHLers... Look at Laf for the NYRs all he did in the quebec jr major league is dominate against teens and what exactly did that bring him as a NHL player against NHLers absolutely nothing. Laf struggled his rookie year in the NHL. Laf still wouldn't gained nothing by playing a 4th year in the jrs majors only to dominated against teens again.

That's the problem people are over selling the jr majors when it comes to developing players. It varies player to play what more jr majors can provide to a young player thats been drafted or signed as a undrafted player.


Can we stop over selling the jr majors the Jrs majors are not meant to be a development league for players that are stuck in the middle between jrs majors and the NHL and that is by design of the CHL organization.

The developmet wright actually needs which he can't get in the OHL is being delayed 2 years cause he's CHL and he lost a season of playing cause of the virus mess. He can't be in the AHL which would actually provide the development he needs until age 20 2 years later. Only option the team has is to get that development is in the NHL and there lies the problem.

 

[Fainting Couch]

Wright will yearn to return to junior to get icetime and prove the Kraken and everyone else wrong about him.

His circling dates / 60 is off the charts at this point.
His underlying taking down names / 60 is elite level, too.

 

[PeteWorrell]

Dominating against teens does exactly what against NHLers...

It helps him gain confidence and continue to perfect his craft like many great players have done before getting to the NHL. Wright lost an entire year of development thanks to the pandemic so he only has played two years instead of three. He would not be not going there as an overeager after having decimated the OHL but as just following the standard of playing three years at the junior level.

 

[Fainting Couch]

Tin foil hat things, but Francis looked reluctant making this pick. Like he didn’t believe in Shane but since he dropped he reluctantly had to take him.

The only reason they took him at 4 was because they didn't think he would fall that far so didn't spend much time looking into him. Had they done their due diligence on him they would have not touched him.

 

[VoidCreature]

The only reason they took him at 4 was because they didn't think he would fall that far so didn't spend much time looking into him. Had they done their due diligence on him they would have not touched him.

Kind of like Fillip Zadina when he fell to Detroit. Could be.

 

[gstommylee]

Here's the issue has it has nothing to do with wright. It has to do with how the team views the 4c role. Right now the average 4c role ices time at least i have seen so far is 6 1/2to 7 1/2 mins regadless if its geekie or wright.

 

[Albatros]

Wright might be the best off going to Europe, not that it's going to happen.

 

[gstommylee]

The only reason they took him at 4 was because they didn't think he would fall that far so didn't spend much time looking into him. Had they done their due diligence on him they would have not touched him.

That is outright a bunch of bull and you know it. Stop with the stupid excuses. Most teams probably had wright has top player on their board but the also knew that he more likely was at the time before Montreal made their pick was already going to be taken. Only team that didn't not have wright on their big board that we know off was devils cause they didn't need another Center. Arizona also had the same assumption that Montreal was going to take write and decided to remain with their pick of Cooley instead of changing it just cause wright was available.

This has NOTHING against wright but how the the league views the the player ranking in the top 10 between each other and guess what there was no big huge gap between those 10 players. 1OA could been just about anyone of those top 10 rank of 2022 draft prospect.

It is impossible to really know why a player drops when its so darn close between players talent wise. If wright had the talent level let say Mcdavid or Matthews and there was a huge talent gab between 1OA and 2-10OA for example and Wright still dropped anyways, teams would exactly know why he dropped and would made adjustments or even made a trade up to get him.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

His circling dates / 60 is off the charts at this point.
His underlying taking down names / 60 is elite level, too.

How’s his stares/60?

 

[ItWasJustified]

That's the problem people are over selling the jr majors when it comes to developing players. It varies player to play what more jr majors can provide to a young player thats been drafted or signed as a undrafted player.

What he needs to develop properly is playing hockey. Being on the ice for 6 minutes is not development.

Wright might be the best off going to Europe, not that it's going to happen.

Are players with CHL contracts even available to go to loan to Europe?

 

[gstommylee]

Wright dropped to Seattle and Seattle took him and not anyone else cause he was hgiher on their big board even possible been their top pick on their big board. We would had taken Nemec if wright was taken by Montreal in that cause devils would had taken Slaf. Arizona would still taken Cooley.

If again Seattle had 1OA 2OA or 3OA and wright would still been available, we would still had taken wright cause getting long term franchise Centers are very very difficult to get. If it came between us taking Slaf, wright, cooley or nemec if all 4 was available at Seattle pick, We still would had take Wright cause thats how the team is building the roster and that is through the middle and is far better to have Wright and put him as 2c than taking Cooley and playing him as top line wing cause we already had someone that talented or better as our 1C and that is beniers.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

What he needs to develop properly is playing hockey. Being on the ice for 6 minutes is not development.

Are players with CHL contracts even available to go to loan to Europe?

The CHL team would have to approve it....which they won't.

 

[Fainting Couch]

That is outright a bunch of bull and you know it. Stop with the stupid excuses.

So many words! I can feel you staring at me!

How’s his stares/60?

Super NHL level. He could intimidate Stevie Wonder with his talent.

 

[bishop12]

Not sure why he's with the NHL team.

To practice with them.

How is Francis okay with this idiocy

It would be Francis making the decisions imo

 

[Kennerback]

Wright might be the best off going to Europe, not that it's going to happen.

I don’t think they could take him because of deals cut with the NHL. With that said, he probably could play in the KHL.

 

[gstommylee]

I don’t think they could take him because of deals cut with the NHL. With that said, he probably could play in the KHL.

Even if the CHL team approved a loan to europe no way he goes near the KHL.

 

[bmore236]

The only reason they took him at 4 was because they didn't think he would fall that far so didn't spend much time looking into him. Had they done their due diligence on him they would have not touched him.

I wouldn’t agree with that since the assistant coach for the Kraken, Paul McFarland was the head coach and GM for Kingston. If anyone would know him it would be him. If Seattle has a belief that they need to make the playoffs, because Vegas went to the Finals, well then Hakstol is coaching for his job.

 

[Kennerback]

Even if the CHL team approved a loan to europe no way he goes near the KHL.

My point is that the KHL would probably not insist on CHL loan formalities... For the same reason going to the KHL right now is not a prime destination for anyone.