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C Noah Östlund - Djurgardens IF J20, J20 Nationell (2022, 16th, BUF)

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Eye of Ra said:
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VictorLustig said:
Östlund is a waay more skilled player than Backlund ever was. I see Jesper Bratt as a decent comparison.
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A silkier version of Backlund would be like Alex Wennberg. I think Ostlund is smarter offensively but similar in that he isn't going to shoot much.

I'm not implying that Wennberg is as elite defensively as Backlund, but only a few centers are. Wennberg is excellent defensively, we shouldn't ever expect a prospect to be one of the most elite defensive centers, that's too unpredictable.
 
majormajor said:
A silkier version of Backlund would be like Alex Wennberg. I think Ostlund is smarter offensively but similar in that he isn't going to shoot much.

I'm not implying that Wennberg is as elite defensively as Backlund, but only a few centers are. Wennberg is excellent defensively, we shouldn't ever expect a prospect to be one of the most elite defensive centers, that's too unpredictable.
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I remenber when people compared Elias Pettersson to Alex Wennberg… Comparing Östlund to Wennberrg is just as bad. They have no similarities at all.
 
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I think Bratt is not a bad comparison actually. Although I would say Ostlund is a better playmaker potnentially…but may not be as fast.
 
He's gonna be a whale of a player. Crazy how good that 2022 draft was for Buffalo - all 3 guys project to be legit top 6+ scorers.

I see a lot of Barzal in Ostlund, especially in their neutral zone puck carrying tendencies (though he'll never be as powerful of a skater). In the offensive zone, he might be a bit more creative than Barzal - more like a Zegras. Maybe a Barzal / Zegras hybrid?

Evgeny Oliker said:
I think Bratt is not a bad comparison actually. Although I would say Ostlund is a better playmaker potnentially…but may not be as fast.
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I'm a big fan of Ostlund, but I don't know if he has the potential to be a better playmaker than Bratt. Bratt led all LW's in 5v5 assists this year, and he trails only Gaudreau, M Tkachuk, and Panarin in 5v5 assists over the last 3 years.

I do agree with the sentiment that Ostlund relies more on cerebral ability than skating ability as compared to Bratt. Ostlund is going to be a very quick skater, but Bratt is maybe the quickest winger in the league.
 
SoundAndFury said:
Albeit he was younger but didn't Isak Rosen have a very similar start in Rochester?
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Rosen didn't have to deal with having surgery on his hand - probably going to take a while to get back to Ostlund's ability to handle, but in Rosen's first season prior to the U20's Isak had 3-12-15 in 25 AHL games. Ostlund looked okay before the injury but only had an assist. Since returning, the hands aren't there yet.
 
Chainshot said:
Rosen didn't have to deal with having surgery on his hand - probably going to take a while to get back to Ostlund's ability to handle, but in Rosen's first season prior to the U20's Isak had 3-12-15 in 25 AHL games.
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Must be remembering his D+1 in the SHL where he finished the season with 4 points. Apples to oranges comparison.
 
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SoundAndFury said:
Must be remembering his D+1 in the SHL where he finished the season with 4 points. Apples to oranges comparison.
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Could be. Rosen's had a nice progression in the AHL, hoping Ostlund follows suit. But Ostlund is so slightly built, it's going to be a bit to get meat on him honestly.
 
I've been tracking Ostlund as I was very interested in him from a Flames perspective. I was hoping he could be a Backlund type, but it's not looking like it. Although Backlund didn't always look lik3 he does now until he was 24ish. I watched one game and he seemed really disinterested in competing for pucks and doesn't have enough pace to get away with that. Does anyone here watch Rochester games regularly?
 
Double Dion said:
I've been tracking Ostlund as I was very interested in him from a Flames perspective. I was hoping he could be a Backlund type, but it's not looking like it. Although Backlund didn't always look lik3 he does now until he was 24ish. I watched one game and he seemed really disinterested in competing for pucks and doesn't have enough pace to get away with that. Does anyone here watch Rochester games regularly?
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Backlund Type? Ostlund is a dynamic offensive player. Skating and playmaking are elite. When i see him play i think Logan Cooley 2.0 not Michael Backlund.

Hope he gets healthy. Was like you looking forward to see how he transitions to NA ice and the AHL/NHL.
My concerns for him were how much he can handle the physical game and working on his shot which has been a muffin by NHL standards.
 
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Double Dion said:
I've been tracking Ostlund as I was very interested in him from a Flames perspective. I was hoping he could be a Backlund type, but it's not looking like it. Although Backlund didn't always look lik3 he does now until he was 24ish. I watched one game and he seemed really disinterested in competing for pucks and doesn't have enough pace to get away with that. Does anyone here watch Rochester games regularly?
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I've watched all but two of his AHL games. He's got pace, the quicks are good but he is lacking mass so he is trying to adjust to smaller ice with bigger opponents. It hasn't helped that he had hand surgery, it seems to be impacting his handles. And he's still too light so he's easily bounced around by absolutely everyone. His timing is off - he actually looked better in his brief playing time to end last season than he has since returning to the lineup.

Not particularly worried but would like to see some production soon.
 
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He’s getting a lots of shots, I’m sure they’ll start going in. His coach in Rochester said in a recent interview that Östlund is one of the best defensive players he’s coached and that he carries himself like a pro at the rink every day. Too bad it’s been such a rocky adjustment but part of it is being snake bitten and the hand injury.
 
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yes a hand injury has to be devastating right now for his development. He wont be nearly as confident and deceptive on puck if he's struggling with his stickhandling in a smaller rink. Furthermore his shot needs a lot of work from what i've seen to be a threat in the NHL. The combination for a smaller finesse player in an adjustment period is less than ideal

Just gonna have to be patient. Play the long game.
 
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