Prospect Info: C Filip Hållander, Timra IK

[Gurglesons]

Jared McCann trade about to be another arrow in Hextall's great move quiver.

 

[Malkinstheman]

Jared McCann trade about to be another arrow in Hextall's great move quiver.

 

[SEALBound]

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As we watch McCann be a reliable 30g scorer for Seattle.

No issues with him coming back but it's an interesting time since I think he has a lot more competition for the spots he would be in, in particular, Ponomarov.

But hey, great if he wants to come back. Worst case, WBS is stacked.

 

[Deport Ogie]

That’s it! Just tell Sullivan he’s from Boston! Say he goes by “Philip”.

Pronounced Phillip Hah-lahn-der. From Dorchestah.

 

[DesertedPenguin]

Clearly Filip saw how Philip was doing so far since coming from Nashville and realized that Pittsburgh is where Phils and Fils thrive.

 

[Jacob]

I never bought that his return to Sweden had anything to do with Sullivan. He would've had to clear waivers which means 32 teams would've had a chance to pick him up if they wanted to.

I think it was a combination of factors, and I think that somewhat serious concussion he got probably made him question if it was all worth it as well. Serious brain injuries with possible long-term consequences might be worth it at an NHL salary, but not an AHL salary.

I'm guessing in Sweden he's somewhere in between an AHL and NHL salary, with better rules and player safety.

I wouldn't mind signing him to a 1 year deal and just see if he makes the team out of camp. And if he doesn't, we can waive him, and if he clears we can agree to part ways again. Worth a shot for both sides.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Why would he do that?

 

[SomeDude]

As long as he brings Olli Jokinen over with him to replace Sully.

 

[Jacob]

Why would he do that?

Come to camp? To try and make the NHL.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Come to camp? To try and make the NHL.

But he’s not going to make the NHL. At this point he’s better served having a steady career in Europe.

Like I know we want the best things for the Pens here, but considering what a younger more established Poolparty has been through this year, it’s be malpractice for Hallander’s management to push for that.

It sucks but we blew it with him and we shouldn’t really even plan on that.

 

[eXile3]

Does he have to pass through waivers again if he signs?

 

[Gurglesons]

Does he have to pass through waivers again if he signs?

Yes.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Yeah, there is no way this makes sense for anyone involved.

 

[SomeDude]

Does he have to pass through waivers again if he signs?

Only if he signed while the NHL season was still going on. The report is that he will come back over this summer, so it will essentially be like any other free agent.

 

[Jacob]

But he’s not going to make the NHL. At this point he’s better served having a steady career in Europe.

Like I know we want the best things for the Pens here, but considering what a younger more established Poolparty has been through this year, it’s be malpractice for Hallander’s management to push for that.

It sucks but we blew it with him and we shouldn’t really even plan on that.

Then he goes on waivers and every team can have a crack at him.

It’s not an uncommon arrangement. Shero did it with Libor Pivko way back when. Didn’t make the team, cleared waivers, went back to Europe.

 

[SomeDude]

Yeah, there is no way this makes sense for anyone involved.

It actually makes sense for everyone involved.

I’m sure Hållander will have a clause in his contract that if he doesn’t make the Pens (and clears waivers), he will go back home rather than WBS.

He gets the chance to make more money and play in the NHL. Pens have a chance to get a good young player. If he doesn’t make it, he goes back home and both parties are in the same situation.

 

[HandshakeLine]

I guess, I just don’t really see it. If we had a completely different management and coaching staff, sure. Just seems like a waste.

 

[Mr. T]

All Swedes yearn for the light and warmth of Picksburg

 

[Empoleon8771]

But he’s not going to make the NHL. At this point he’s better served having a steady career in Europe.

Like I know we want the best things for the Pens here, but considering what a younger more established Poolparty has been through this year, it’s be malpractice for Hallander’s management to push for that.

It sucks but we blew it with him and we shouldn’t really even plan on that.

I mean, what is this based on exactly? Is this just a rehash of the "Mike Sullivan hates Euros" argument?

I'm not really seeing anything with his playstyle that makes me think Sullivan would have an issue with his game. He seems to basically just be a bit older and developed Ponomarev. I'd bet on him being used more like Blueger under Sullivan than Puljujarvi tbh.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

Yeah but Blueger was basically American.

 

[HandshakeLine]

I mean, what is this based on exactly? Is this just a rehash of the "Mike Sullivan hates Euros" argument?

I'm not really seeing anything with his playstyle that makes me think Sullivan would have an issue with his game. He seems to basically just be a bit older and developed Ponomarev. I'd bet on him being used more like Blueger under Sullivan than Puljujarvi tbh.

Based on the fact that we could have had him developing as we wanted him here and we did not make any effort to do so, Emp.

But hey, call me when he makes the roster and I’ll eat crow. Until then keep this kind of post in the Hypothetical Prospect Thread, thnx.

Yeah but Blueger was basically American.

Shattuck-St. Mary’s right?

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

I think he plays the type of game that could've gotten him a foot in the door, but this organization just didn't really give a shit about developing him and he kinda has no reason to give it another shot here. If he makes the NHL someday, it'll definitely be with a different team imo. /shrug

 

[Pancakes]

I think he plays the type of game that could've gotten him a foot in the door, but this organization just didn't really give a shit about developing him and he kinda has no reason to give it another shot here. If he makes the NHL someday, it'll definitely be with a different team imo. /shrug

The only real advantage I can see to him signing here is that the Pens suck ass especially in the bottom six so there would be plenty of opportunity for him to make the team.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

The only real advantage I can see to him signing here is that the Pens suck ass especially in the bottom six so there would be plenty of opportunity for him to make the team.

There's never an opportunity to make this team with Sullivan, man. They keep the bottom-6 stocked to the gills with dogshit journeymen year after year. Puljujarvi's outplayed everyone in the bottom-6 (and some in the top-6) by miles in the minimal opportunity he's been given and he can't land a constant spot in the lineup. /shrug

Though someone mentioned Puljujarvi might be getting a ton of rest time because of his recent hip surgeries so, I dunno. Maybe they're just taking it easy and he'll be getting a permanent spot next year. But that's firmly in the "believe it when I see it" folder.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

Based on the fact that we could have had him developing as we wanted him here and we did not make any effort to do so, Emp.

But hey, call me when he makes the roster and I’ll eat crow. Until then keep this kind of post in the Hypothetical Prospect Thread, thnx.


Shattuck-St. Mary’s right?

Yeah, he's pretty much a Minnesotan.


Anyway, back to Hallander. In my viewings of him in the AHL he was basically a mix of Hagelin/Hornqvist. Worse at their primary/defining skills, but had better hands.