C Cutter Gauthier - (2022, 5th, PHI; traded to ANA)

[Hockey Duckie]

The Ducks a few years earlier were also an example of retooling instead of rebuilding. On the 07 team Getzlaf and Perry were good players, but not yet superstars. Yet the team was able to transition to a contending team built around them because they developed into stars just as the other big guns aged or retired.

Had Lindholm, Rakell, etc been better, or if Zegras and such had arrived earlier, maybe the team charts a different path. But they had too big a gap between drafting their high end talented players ...they found a lot of good players who have had solid careers, but there was a dry stretch where they weren't able to find star players (at forward especially).

Actually, if GM Murray wasn't an alcoholic, then no reset rebuild would have occurred.

GM Murray resigned in early Nov '21, in the middle of an 8-game winning streak.

GM Verbeek was hired during all-star break. The Ducks were 3rd in the Pacific when that happened. Top-4RD Manson went to IR during all-star break and Verbeek sat on his hands until the TDL. At the TDL, the Ducks were 6th in the Pacific, but only 4 points behind 3rd place in the Pacific. Verbeek admitted he blew up the team at the TDL, giving away top pairing LD Lindholm, top-4RD Manson, top-6RW Rakell, and pugilist/PK'er Deslauriers.

Already in the system: C Zegras (NHL), RD (Drysdale), C McTavish (9-NHL games, OHL), LD Thrun (NCAA junior), LD LaCombe (NCAA junior), RD Moore, LD Zellweger, LD Hinds, and RW Colangelo.

Youth who finally showed up: RW Terry (37g +30a in 2021-22).

Anaheim probably would continue to draft defensemen and probably would have snagged Luneau in the 2nd round in the 2022 draft still. The Ducks would still have the capital to trade for Cutter.

 

[FiveTacos]

Anaheim probably would continue to draft defensemen and probably would have snagged Luneau in the 2nd round in the 2022 draft still. The Ducks would still have the capital to trade for Cutter.

Not sure they would/could/should have re signed Lindholm et al.. and if not, then the rebuild was still on. The guys that were traded were not the caliber that would have prevented the Ducks from sliding down the standings. They'd still be a non playoff team with no real Cup hopes.

Put it this way, would you trade Carlsson for Lindholm, Rakell, and Manson right now?

 

[rahad]

Started to reply to this before I saw you using Montreal as the example. Wondered about this scenario exactly as I feel like Chicago takes Levshunov and Verbeek won't want Demidov. Would definitely do 5th OA + Barron/Colorado's 2nd + 4th/5th for 3rd OA to get Demidov.

Anaheim still gets whichever of the D they want as I'd think Columbus would take Lindstrom. Roy would also be a good target for them but I genuinely think he might be the most sought after UFA available this summer

What does the habs gain for trading so much for the third overall pick from the Ducks? Everyone know the Habs want a forward and Anaheim a D.

Pretty sure Kent would bet on Anaheim taking the second best D at third. This leave Columbus and Habs taking Demidov or Lindstrom. The only scenario this work, if the Habs are crazy about Demidov and want him badly with the team.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

What does the habs gain for trading so much for the third overall pick from the Ducks? Everyone know the Habs want a forward and Anaheim a D.

Pretty sure Kent would bet on Anaheim taking the second best D at third. This leave Columbus and Habs taking Demidov or Lindstrom. The only scenario this work, if the Habs are crazy about Demidov and want him badly with the team.

Actually Anaheim could go either way or bpa, we have 2 1sts and usually do well drafting dmen in 2nd or 3rd round.

Especially if levshunov is off the board

 

[Jared Dunn]

What does the habs gain for trading so much for the third overall pick from the Ducks? Everyone know the Habs want a forward and Anaheim a D.

Pretty sure Kent would bet on Anaheim taking the second best D at third. This leave Columbus and Habs taking Demidov or Lindstrom. The only scenario this work, if the Habs are crazy about Demidov and want him badly with the team.

If trading Barron and a late round pick is all it took to secure Demidov I wouldn't even hesitate. I think Barron has a decent but unspectacular NHL future ahead of him that won't be the Habs, and I think Yakemchuk and Parekh are big enough reaches that they'd strongly consider just going with BPA at 3rd overall, leaving the Habs either reaching or further adding to the D glut

 

[Kalv]

Gauthier demonstrates leadership skills with Ducks prospects | NHL.com

Opts to attend Anaheim development camp after making NHL debut in April

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Showing leadership skills early on in Anaheim

 

[FlyguyOX]

Looks like Pronman has noticed some of the same hockey sense shortcomings that flyers fans noticed before his trade:

What made you rank Jamie Drysdale ahead of Cutter Gauthier when, at the time of the trade, you said Cutter was “the best player of the two currently”? — Scott M.

I watched a lot of Cutter in the spring, and his hockey sense continued to concern me. It also feels like he’s destined for the wing. If I thought he was a center, I would probably move him ahead of Drysdale. At the time of the trade, I projected him as a center.

 

[Peasy]

Looks like Pronman has noticed some of the same hockey sense shortcomings that flyers fans noticed before his trade:

What made you rank Jamie Drysdale ahead of Cutter Gauthier when, at the time of the trade, you said Cutter was “the best player of the two currently”? — Scott M.

I watched a lot of Cutter in the spring, and his hockey sense continued to concern me. It also feels like he’s destined for the wing. If I thought he was a center, I would probably move him ahead of Drysdale. At the time of the trade, I projected him as a center.

People had these concerns before he was drafted. When I saw him his draft year I saw a guy who takes a lot of low danger shots from really anywhere on the ice. But I still do this trade every day if Im the ducks.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

People had these concerns before he was drafted. When I saw him his draft year I saw a guy who takes a lot of low danger shots from really anywhere on the ice. But I still do this trade every day if Im the ducks.

Ya we have carlsson mctavish and zegras as centers… gauthier as a compliment winger is good for us.

I don’t think drysdale fit PV long term plan on defense, especially with zellweger around.

Getting a shoot first player(that isn’t afraid of physical play) to compliment zegras/carlsson/terry is a win for us.

 

[Gliff]

Looks like Pronman has noticed some of the same hockey sense shortcomings that flyers fans noticed before his trade:

What made you rank Jamie Drysdale ahead of Cutter Gauthier when, at the time of the trade, you said Cutter was “the best player of the two currently”? — Scott M.

I watched a lot of Cutter in the spring, and his hockey sense continued to concern me. It also feels like he’s destined for the wing. If I thought he was a center, I would probably move him ahead of Drysdale. At the time of the trade, I projected him as a center.

I dont think the Ducks thought they were trading for a playmaking center.
They knew what they were getting and he was a perfect fit.

I find it a little funny that him being a winger lowers his ranking but Drysdale having another injury and not exactly lighting it up.... he has no issue with.

I really do hope both players pan out. I love Jamie.

 

[FlyguyOX]

People had these concerns before he was drafted. When I saw him his draft year I saw a guy who takes a lot of low danger shots from really anywhere on the ice. But I still do this trade every day if Im the ducks.

Agree on ducks point of view.

 

[HeadLiceHatty]

I'm really curious to see how he fits in with the Ducks talented young core, as much as I hate the situation with Philly, I really can't help but to be curious how he does next year. He's not a playdriver, or a high IQ guy, but I think he has a place aside Carlsson or Zegras and will shine, just because of that shot. Do Ducks fans see him as a potential 30-30-60 guy in his prime or ? I kinda stopped watching him after the whole thing went down with the Flyers.

 

[FlyguyOX]

I'm really curious to see how he fits in with the Ducks talented young core, as much as I hate the situation with Philly, I really can't help but to be curious how he does next year. He's not a playdriver, or a high IQ guy, but I think he has a place aside Carlsson or Zegras and will shine, just because of that shot. Do Ducks fans see him as a potential 30-30-60 guy in his prime or ? I kinda stopped watching him after the whole thing went down with the Flyers.

I'm also curious if he pans out as just a mercurial goal scorer (shades of jeff skinner) or a complete player with goal scoring prowess (stamkos)

 

[Rebels57]

I dont think the Ducks thought they were trading for a playmaking center.
They knew what they were getting and he was a perfect fit.

I find it a little funny that him being a winger lowers his ranking but Drysdale having another injury and not exactly lighting it up.... he has no issue with.

I really do hope both players pan out. I love Jamie.

I'm a Flyers fan and so i'm now obligated to hate on Gauthier, but having Drysdale ranked ahead of him on this list is pure nonsense. Especially after ANOTHER injury-riddled season for Jamie, who seems to be made of paper mache.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Evander Kane, Sharks version, springs to mind as a high-end comparison to me. I watched Gauthier all year at BC and I definitely agree with some of the hockey IQ concerns and that Gauthier is a 'shoot-first, ask questions later' type of player, not a play-driver. A bit of a hot-head at times with an extremely punchable face. But he'll provide surprising defensive value (as Kane did), he's got fantastic physical tools (speed/size/shot) and given that he'll have great centers to play with I think Anaheim is a perfect fit for him. I think he would have struggled in the Flyers org if expected to be a 1C, but in a situation where he isn't the central focus of the opposition, he'll do well.

I expect a consistent 30-30 winger in his prime who is physically involved and provides genuine value on the PK.

 

[Rabid Ranger]

Gauthier is not a playmaking center. He's a goal-scoring center with great size and speed. Pair him with a playmaking winger. Shoot, pair him with Zegras.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Evander Kane, Sharks version, springs to mind as a high-end comparison to me. I watched Gauthier all year at BC and I definitely agree with some of the hockey IQ concerns and that Gauthier is a 'shoot-first, ask questions later' type of player, not a play-driver. A bit of a hot-head at times with an extremely punchable face. But he'll provide surprising defensive value (as Kane did), he's got fantastic physical tools (speed/size/shot) and given that he'll have great centers to play with I think Anaheim is a perfect fit for him. I think he would have struggled in the Flyers org if expected to be a 1C, but in a situation where he isn't the central focus of the opposition, he'll do well.

I expect a consistent 30-30 winger in his prime who is physically involved and provides genuine value on the PK.

I think 30/30 is where most duck fans see him, anything better is a big + for us.


If he can make himself a reliable weapon on the powerplay, could see those numbers bump up a lil tho.

Got some creative players like zegras, carlsson, terry, Mintyukov and zellweger(he’ll even mctavish to an extent) that should open up space for him.

Gauthier is not a playmaking center. He's a goal-scoring center with great size and speed. Pair him with a playmaking winger. Shoot, pair him with Zegras.

Ya he should slot next to carlsson or zegras…. Both guys are more playmakers first.

 

[Juxtaposer]

I think 30/30 is where most duck fans see him, anything better is a big + for us.


If he can make himself a reliable weapon on the powerplay, could see those numbers bump up a lil tho.

Got some creative players like zegras, carlsson, terry, Mintyukov and zellweger(he’ll even mctavish to an extent) that should open up space for him.


Ya he should slot next to carlsson or zegras…. Both guys are more playmakers first.

He could probably flirt with 40 goals in a good PP year for sure. Shot is lethal.

 

[HanSolo]

Gauthier is not a playmaking center. He's a goal-scoring center with great size and speed. Pair him with a playmaking winger. Shoot, pair him with Zegras.

I still think Cronin is gonna try to let it ride and use Cutter as a triggerman to benefit Carlsson's playmaking. I think it's more likely they stick with Carlsson and McTavish as the top two down the middle.

 

[Guadana]

Looks like Pronman has noticed some of the same hockey sense shortcomings that flyers fans noticed before his trade:

What made you rank Jamie Drysdale ahead of Cutter Gauthier when, at the time of the trade, you said Cutter was “the best player of the two currently”? — Scott M.

I watched a lot of Cutter in the spring, and his hockey sense continued to concern me. It also feels like he’s destined for the wing. If I thought he was a center, I would probably move him ahead of Drysdale. At the time of the trade, I projected him as a center.

Its pronman. Not the first of his misses.

Cutter is surrounding by very talented roster. He will do his things. And if he will play on the wing of Carlsson who has potential to be 90+ points player, he will complement him as a shooter. With his speed, shot and physical ability he has more potential than just 60 points. May be not so consistent because of his more easy game to read for opposition, but even this could be developed.

 

[Leonardo87]

Goal and assist last night to help lead his team to victory. Was more impressed with that sauce pass than goal..

 

[Leonardo87]

Snipe…..

 

[Fantomas]

Looks like Pronman has noticed some of the same hockey sense shortcomings that flyers fans noticed before his trade:

More like Pronman pooed in his diaper

 

[Baksfamous112]

Looks like Pronman has noticed some of the same hockey sense shortcomings that flyers fans noticed before his trade:

What made you rank Jamie Drysdale ahead of Cutter Gauthier when, at the time of the trade, you said Cutter was “the best player of the two currently”? — Scott M.

I watched a lot of Cutter in the spring, and his hockey sense continued to concern me. It also feels like he’s destined for the wing. If I thought he was a center, I would probably move him ahead of Drysdale. At the time of the trade, I projected him as a center.

Hahaha biggest cope I’ve seen this year.

 

[FlyguyOX]

More like Pronman pooed in his diaper

Bit early to be victory lapping