Confirmed with Link: Buch traded to STL for Blais + 2nd (2022)

[Uglybstrd]

If you’re taking a glass half full look at these moves, the Rangers got two bottom 6 guys who make the team difficult to play against for the less than what Buchnevich’s next deal will presumably be

I understand that. I`m not against adding Blais and Goodrow. If the 2nd we got for Buch was a 1st i would have felt better about it. The return for Buch was a kick in the nuts.

 

[Heckler81]

Just what I feared. Drury F-ing sucks.

 

[NoQuitInNewMexico]

My understanding of the jigsaw puzzle, and I could be off because I really don't look at the numbers that much, is they can't do the Eichel-Mika thing long-term unless they can move Kreider's contract out. And if they're going Eichel-Mika, that's a lot of faith in VERY flaky stars, along with the faith you already have in the 20-year-olds. So you round it out with reliable players and reliable people.

 

[Zats Muccarello]

The question is whether Drury talks Buffalo down on the price for Eichel.

I don't see them moving a RW for Eichel after moving Buch.

At this point they'd be shooting for Lundkvist, Chytil, Jones/Robertson and a first.

Strome would be flipped for replenishing assets or a LD.

You'd end up with

Laf/Eichel/Kakko
Panarin/Mika/Kravtsov
Kreider/Goodrow/Blais
Barron/Rooney/Gauthier

Genuinely curious on your guys’ thoughts: how much better is this lineup than what we have now/had last year?

 

[TUQ]

Sad to see Buch go. Neverming his contract asks, it seems like we are remodeling our bottom 6 ... at the cost of our top six thougt.

 

[LamoTheKid]

Drury is traaaaaaaaaash

 

[Edge]

Genuinely curious on your guys’ thoughts: how much better is this lineup than what we have now?

If Gallant is the key master, and he unlocks Lafreniere, Kakko and Kravtsov, I think you're on an upward trajectory.

If Eichel depletes the roster and we're scrambling, it's gonna be interesting.

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

Sad to see Buch go. Neverming his contract asks, it seems like we are remodeling our bottom 6 ... at the cost of our top six thougt.

At least we hopefully have guys who can step into that top six spot tho, and if not we might be fu**ed anyway

 

[smoneil]

The question is whether Drury talks Buffalo down on the price for Eichel.

I don't see them moving a RW for Eichel after moving Buch.

At this point they'd be shooting for Lundkvist, Chytil, Jones/Robertson and a first.

Strome would be flipped for replenishing assets or a LD.

You'd end up with

Laf/Eichel/Kakko
Panarin/Mika/Kravtsov
Kreider/Goodrow/Blais
Barron/Rooney/Gauthier

The thing that is terrifying there is that both Eichel and Mika regularly spend a dozen or so games on the IR. There could be stretches where Goodrow/Rooney are our top 6 centers. I think you can move Strome or Chytil, but to move both is incredibly risky to the point of being foolish (and I know you are conveying what you heard--I'm just saying that rolling with two and only two fragile top-6 centers would scare the hell out of me).

 

[Circus86]

 

[Synergy27]

This move is awful, just terrible, but the silver lining I can see in it is that there is now absolutely zero excuse for both Kakko and Kravtsov to see anything less than 15 minutes a game. They must be used as go to, all situations players from the start of the season.

 

[Black Aces]

Genuinely curious on your guys’ thoughts: how much better is this lineup than what we have now/had last year?

Whether you agree with the long term plan or not it isnt close. Its much better

 

[and 99 others]

Genuinely curious on your guys’ thoughts: how much better is this lineup than what we have now/had last year?

It's the difference from being a playoff bubble team (now) to a playoff contender with Eichel if he's healthy. Realistically that's just taking Chytil and swapping out Eichel, so of course it's significantly better afterwards...

 

[Edge]

This move is awful, just terrible, but the silver lining I can see in it is that there is now absolutely zero excuse for both Kakko and Kravtsov to see anything less than 15 minutes a game. They must be used as go to, all situations players from the start of the season.

You can make the argument that the Rangers just removed two major obstacles for both kids in the past week.

 

[mas0764]

The question is whether Drury talks Buffalo down on the price for Eichel.

I don't see them moving a RW for Eichel after moving Buch.

At this point they'd be shooting for Lundkvist, Chytil, Jones/Robertson and a first.

Strome would be flipped for replenishing assets or a LD.

You'd end up with

Laf/Eichel/Kakko
Panarin/Mika/Kravtsov
Kreider/Goodrow/Blais
Barron/Rooney/Gauthier

Hard pass on that Eichel Deal

 

[DanielBrassard]

The question is whether Drury talks Buffalo down on the price for Eichel.

I don't see them moving a RW for Eichel after moving Buch.

At this point they'd be shooting for Lundkvist, Chytil, Jones/Robertson and a first.

Strome would be flipped for replenishing assets or a LD.

You'd end up with

Laf/Eichel/Kakko
Panarin/Mika/Kravtsov
Kreider/Goodrow/Blais
Barron/Rooney/Gauthier

They can just move Laf to RW. Seems to be the most obvious thing to do. I can't see them going with Kakko and Kravtsov as their top 2 RW's.

 

[Edge]

Hard pass on that Eichel Deal

That very well could be the case. But that's probably the best guess for a Rangers offer at this point.

 

[Synergy27]

You can make the argument that the Rangers just removed two major obstacles for both kids in the past week.

Which is what I’ve been clamoring for, so I can’t complain in a vacuum. I find it very hard to believe that that was max value for Buch though.

I suppose another silver lining is that the 2022 draft is looking deep. But I’d rather have a pick this year as well given all the uncertainty.

 

[Edge]

They can just move Laf to RW. Seems to be the most obvious thing to do. I can't see them going with Kakko and Kravtsov as their top 2 RW's.

I think Laf moving to RW and Blais sliding over to the left wing is certainly a possibility in that scenario.

 

[Kravtsov420]

I mean, why couldnt klim kostin be added in there?

 

[Vitto79]

You can make the argument that the Rangers just removed two major obstacles for both kids in the past week.

my question is are they really going w a RW of Kakko , Kravtsov, Blais , Gauthier ?
What about Chytil sliding over

that’s young . Still young but does Laf move over to RW. So many questions lol

 

[Edge]

Which is what I’ve been clamoring for, so I can’t complain in a vacuum. I find it very hard to believe that that was max value for Buch though.

I suppose another silver lining is that the 2022 draft is looking deep. But I’d rather have a pick this year as well given all the uncertainty.

I keep coming back to the mixed emotions of this move.

It feels incomplete to me. I get the mindset, I knew Buch was likely to be moved. It just feels like we're missing a component on the return value.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

They can just move Laf to RW. Seems to be the most obvious thing to do. I can't see them going with Kakko and Kravtsov as their top 2 RW's.

Im not sure they do either.

If Eichel comes in, I see Kravtsov being involved Along with Chytil and Nils and maybe Georgiev. Draft picks are kept out of it. Strome moved separately. Laf to the RW as you mentioned

 

[Black Aces]

This move is awful, just terrible, but the silver lining I can see in it is that there is now absolutely zero excuse for both Kakko and Kravtsov to see anything less than 15 minutes a game. They must be used as go to, all situations players from the start of the season.

Im pretty sure this was part of the reason to trade Buch.

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

I think Kreider is in the top six and Lafraniere is playing RW. It seems to be the logical move to kind of give Kravtsov more time.

something like Panarin-Strome/other-Lafraniere
Kreider-Zib-Kakko
Goodrow-Chytil?-Kravtsov
Bilas-Rooney/Barron-etc