WWE: Brock Lesnar has had more concussions than Daniel Bryan

[The Lunatic Fridge]

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Whattya know, he is human!
While it's pretty insane to think that lesnar is in the shape he is after taking more concussions than bryan, you also gotta take into account that concussions aren't just a thing that everyone gets the exact same way. (I.E lesnar never had seizures, or at least not documented ones)

I bet WWE won't be too happy of him talking about it, though. Especially dropping the line about how the business used to be.

EDIT - While lesnar doesn't literally say "I had more concussions" you can take the context from his words that it's in the double digits and a never he can't count off the top of his head so unless DB had 20+ concussions we don't know about.....

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[Loosie]

I don't read it as he's had more concussions than DB. I just read it as him acknowledging that he has concussions as well...too many to count, or that he hasn't kept track of them.

It is interesting to hear his thoughts on the matter,a s well as the Rousey interview as well.

Again not surprised that with a career in Football, Wrestling and MMA the he's had concussions.

 

[Paris in Flames]

I guess it would make sense that Brock has had more concussions. He was in the UFC where they get legitimately rocked and your opponent isn't giving everything he has to be as safe as possible with you...so he no doubt got caught a lot. Add in his football days....concussions are endless really.

(that's not even including his wrestling days)

 

[Le Barron de HF]

He was for sure concussed in the Shane Carwin fight. The dude took so much abuse in that fight. Probably was in the Velasquez fight too.

 

[Loosie]

I'm almost certain the botched SSP at WM XIX gave him one too. He's was definitely looking lost after that.

 

[LeafSadist]

Brock can pretty much say anything he wants and can get away with it. Good interview though, especially acknowledging the winning and losing aspect and Ronda.

 

[M.C.G. 31]

The guy has been up front and honest about all the stuff he went through and drugs he took to continue working during his first WWE run so I'm not surprised.

I gotta see that interview though.

 

[ColePens]

This is kind of a slippery road for the WWE. If the standard is held towards DB, I wonder if they'll pull it with anyone else. I would assume that they could take 5 guys from the roster, right this second, and apply the same exact thing they did to DB.

Will they? It will be interesting.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

This is kind of a slippery road for the WWE. If the standard is held towards DB, I wonder if they'll pull it with anyone else. I would assume that they could take 5 guys from the roster, right this second, and apply the same exact thing they did to DB.

Will they? It will be interesting.

There probably isn't a single man on that roster that wouldn't yield the same result more or less that Bryan had if given the same test. And it wouldn't surprise me if the women were the same way as well.

 

[M.C.G. 31]

This is kind of a slippery road for the WWE. If the standard is held towards DB, I wonder if they'll pull it with anyone else. I would assume that they could take 5 guys from the roster, right this second, and apply the same exact thing they did to DB.

Will they? It will be interesting.

Meltzer has talked about this. If they did the same test on the entire roster, there'd be a lot of issues there.

 

[Morozov]

Dat clickbait tho.

 

[Loosie]

They would probably find some issues, but others would probably test ok. I know it's been discussed and being a hockey board it's common knowledge but concussions do affect different people in different ways.

For some they'd fail those test after their first concussion, and other mike keep taking concussions and be fine.

I'd hate to see what Foley's brain is like though.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

They would probably find some issues, but others would probably test ok. I know it's been discussed and being a hockey board it's common knowledge but concussions do affect different people in different ways.

For some they'd fail those test after their first concussion, and other mike keep taking concussions and be fine.

I'd hate to see what Foley's brain is like though.

With how easy it is for a new wrestler in training to nail their head just on a basic back bump to go along with the extensive schedule that WWE puts their roster through, I would be absolutely shocked if the test DB took didn't result in all of them showing fairly extensive brain damage if they took it. It's not necessarily how one may respond to concussions as much as it was showing the actual brain damage.

 

[The Shockmaster]

He doesn't directly state that he had more concussions than Bryan.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

He doesn't directly state that he had more concussions than Bryan.

I swear when I saw you had replied here, I thought it was due to the cue I gave. haha

 

[The Lunatic Fridge]

I don't read it as he's had more concussions than DB. I just read it as him acknowledging that he has concussions as well...too many to count, or that he hasn't kept track of them.

It is interesting to hear his thoughts on the matter,a s well as the Rousey interview as well.

Again not surprised that with a career in Football, Wrestling and MMA the he's had concussions.

The quote saying he couldn't count on both his hands would suggest over 12 which already puts him at bryan's range IIRC.

I'm almost certain the botched SSP at WM XIX gave him one too. He's was definitely looking lost after that.

He absolutely did. He was gone the moment he landed on the mat. Pretty sure he said he doesn't remember anything from that night past that move.

He doesn't directly state that he had more concussions than Bryan.

Perhaps next time you should read the post and not just the title before replying. Even the real shockmaster can do that.

 

[Emperoreddy]

With how easy it is for a new wrestler in training to nail their head just on a basic back bump to go along with the extensive schedule that WWE puts their roster through, I would be absolutely shocked if the test DB took didn't result in all of them showing fairly extensive brain damage if they took it. It's not necessarily how one may respond to concussions as much as it was showing the actual brain damage.

I agree. Plus brain is extremely complex. Damage in different areas can and would have different effects on people. Some might never notice it until years down the line. Others could have issues like DB apparently had.

Fact is I would imagine most vet wrestlers brains would not look healthy if they took the test DB took.

 

[Paris in Flames]

I'd kinda be curious to see comparables between guys who worked the indy circuit a long time (i.e a Rollins, etc) vs somebody who has really only been in the WWE like a Reigns.

Obviously there couldn't be...any real hypothesis made because really every guy is different but I would be interested to see what impact indy style finishers have on a guy compared to the more protected world of WWE.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

I agree. Plus brain is extremely complex. Damage in different areas can and would have different effects on people. Some might never notice it until years down the line. Others could have issues like DB apparently had.

Fact is I would imagine most vet wrestlers brains would not look healthy if they took the test DB took.

I think I heard DB say that your intelligence level can help with how your brain compensates for what is lost in the brain damage. But that obviously is just masking the issue. It's pretty common to hear the guys talk about times they had been knocked out in the ring. With how common accidents occur in the ring, I can't see how they wouldn't see the effects. But obviously there's no way in hell that would standardize this test on WWE talent because they'd have no one left. lol

 

[The Shockmaster]

With how easy it is for a new wrestler in training to nail their head just on a basic back bump to go along with the extensive schedule that WWE puts their roster through, I would be absolutely shocked if the test DB took didn't result in all of them showing fairly extensive brain damage if they took it. It's not necessarily how one may respond to concussions as much as it was showing the actual brain damage.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

I'd kinda be curious to see comparables between guys who worked the indy circuit a long time (i.e a Rollins, etc) vs somebody who has really only been in the WWE like a Reigns.

Obviously there couldn't be...any real hypothesis made because really every guy is different but I would be interested to see what impact indy style finishers have on a guy compared to the more protected world of WWE.

Under normal circumstances, I'd say Reigns over Rollins in terms of brain health but Reigns has a decent football history which does a comparable amount of damage so who knows?

That was the stoner's delay for that reply, right?

 

[Emperoreddy]

I think I heard DB say that your intelligence level can help with how your brain compensates for what is lost in the brain damage. But that obviously is just masking the issue. It's pretty common to hear the guys talk about times they had been knocked out in the ring. With how common accidents occur in the ring, I can't see how they wouldn't see the effects. But obviously there's no way in hell that would standardize this test on WWE talent because they'd have no one left. lol

Well I'm sure they have all had the short term effects since almost the whole roster has been concussed multiple times. Brock did it to Taker two years ago and he collapsed back stage.

Now Taker walks around seemingly mentally fine, but I bet if he took the test DB took it would show damage and they wouldn't allow him to wrestle again. Same for Brock, Cena, Sheamus and on and on.

The seems to be the tricky problem here. The long term effects are harder to catch. How many concussions can the brain take, when will the brain be unable to compensate for the damage, what symptoms with show up, how long, how bad, etc.

 

[The Lunatic Fridge]

With how easy it is for a new wrestler in training to nail their head just on a basic back bump to go along with the extensive schedule that WWE puts their roster through, I would be absolutely shocked if the test DB took didn't result in all of them showing fairly extensive brain damage if they took it. It's not necessarily how one may respond to concussions as much as it was showing the actual brain damage.

More likely that the test found something vulnerable and at risk (Something similar to edge's neck) than actual brain damage. I think the docs bryan kept going to would have certainly found noticeable brain damage especially with the info that he was having seizures (that i can only assume the doctor was aware of)

 

[The Lunatic Fridge]

The seems to be the tricky problem here. The long term effects are harder to catch. How many concussions can the brain take, when will the brain be unable to compensate for the damage, what symptoms with show up, how long, how bad, etc.

Everybody is different. That's why you never see a timetable for anyone with a concussion is any sport.

Look at McDonagh on the rangers. Back very quickly from a concussion. Then look at a guy like Ziggler, seemingly a pretty healthy guy until he took his first concussion.

Obviously hockey and wrestling aren't exactly the same thing but you get the gist.

 

[NewAgeOutlaw]

It's key to remember that concussions are just a part of the problem. Linemen in football tend to be the most likely to suffer from cte not because of concussions, but from the sub-concussive impact with the bill of their helmet on an opposing player every play.

Apply that to wrestling. Every time you bump on your back you are supposed to tuck your chin. Even so, there is a slight impact on the head, it's unavoidable. Those impacts won't cause immediate damage, but the collective effect of thousands of bumps over many years? Those little bumps could have a devastating effect.

At least they're not boxers. I'd hate to know how bad the average veteran boxer's brain looks. It's amazing that sport still exists with all the issues that are popping up with head injuries.