Player Discussion Brendan Lemieux

[Thirty One]

It doesn't help. Practice is nice and all but you can't simulate game intensity.

You can't simulate game intensity. If you can't simulate the impact of game intensity on conditioning, you are bad at conditioning.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

And as we all know, NHL ice time is the only way to improve conditioning.

Don’t western teams also have less practice time?

 

[Hunter Gathers]

You can't simulate game intensity. If you can't simulate the impact of game intensity on conditioning, you are bad at conditioning.

It's less about simulating game intensity and more about the added grind of a full NHL season.

He does need to work in it in the offseason, though. For sure.

 

[Machinehead]

He does get winded but he also has one of the highest work-rates. Beats a guy who gets winded doing nothing, like Brad Richards in his last year here.

 

[True Blue]

His endurance is atrocious. It's probably sue so his body type. When he gives it 100% he's aweslme. .but he takes a ton of shifts off. Needs to work on that big time.

Gotta give him a little slack. Has nothing to do with his body but lack of usage.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

He does get winded but he also has one of the highest work-rates. Beats a guy who gets winded doing nothing, like Brad Richards in his last year here.

It is always surprising how someone so slow got so winded.

 

[Machinehead]

It is always surprising how someone so slow got so winded.

And I loved Brad but that poor guy was cooked in his later years. He never had the body for hockey.

Same for Gretzky who, despite his outrageous numbers, saw one of the most profound goal-scoring declines in league history.

 

[NYR Viper]

You can't simulate game intensity. If you can't simulate the impact of game intensity on conditioning, you are bad at conditioning.

With very little practice time throughout the season it can be difficult, yes.

 

[Rangers in 7]

people might forget but this is also his first full nhl season, give him a break

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Wrong thread

 

[Thirty One]

A lot of you should be embarassed with yourselves. Probably the same people who said Hayes was terrible and a waste early in career. If they arent a star their first season they are a bust.

I know it may be a crazy thought, but sometimes it takes time for players to develop into good NHL players.

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What a great system!

No one said Lemieux couldn't develop into a good NHL player, or even that he currently isn't one.

 

[romba]

Everyone and their dog said Hayes needed to make quicker decisions with the puck early on and it took a few years of work but he figured it out. No one said he's a waste, that would be nuts as we didn't even waste a draft pick on him.

Same for Lemieux. There's an excellent foundation and he looks like he could develop into an excellent core piece (already like him more than Vesey but that's not saying too much), that said there's also what to be critical of and for him to work on, no need to get sensitive and defensive over it.

 

[Thirty One]

Everyone and their dog said Hayes needed to make quicker decisions with the puck early on and it took a few years of work but he figured it out. No one said he's a waste, that would be nuts as we didn't even waste a draft pick on him.

I do remember lots of people writing off Hayes pretty quickly after his second season.

 

[romba]

I do remember lots of people writing off Hayes pretty quickly after his second season.

True, but his points took a significant drop from his rookie season (9 points, so 20% less) and he looked a bit lost as well so I'm not gonna rip the ppl who lost patience after season 2 even though it was clearly premature.

 

[nyr2k2]

I was excited to get him. He has been everything I had hoped.

 

[Off Sides]

I remember often saying Hayes had 2nd line center potential.

Then again I liked Dawes, Clendening, and a long list of other questionable players too. To be fair to myself that was in comparison to things like Rissmiller or similar.

I guess I like to give the benefit of the doubt to the younger player until he pretty much proves otherwise as the alternative is to give that same benefit to the Isbister, Halpern, Powe, Stoll etc of the league.

Lemieux I think has done well, I like his game better than Glass, Asham, Rupp, Brashear, etc already.

 

[Thirty One]

Lemieux I think has done well, I like his game better than Glass, Asham, Rupp, Brashear, etc already.

 

[bl02]

Didn't realize he was considered to be in his rookie year. top 10 goal scoring for Rookies while averaging pretty much half as much ice time

 

[Off Sides]

I also like Lowry who is still with the Jets, Hyman on the Leafs, and am hoping if this all comes together Lemieux is sort of the Rangers version of them.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

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What a great system!

No one said Lemieux couldn't develop into a good NHL player, or even that he currently isn't one.

I totally meant to post this is the Andersson thread.

 

[theFiGS]

His endurance is atrocious. It's probably sue so his body type. When he gives it 100% he's aweslme. .but he takes a ton of shifts off. Needs to work on that big time.

I agree with what.George said he spent so many nights scratched plus we could say a lot of these guys take plays off at this.point, that's what happenings you sell a couple major assets and out of the playoffs. Since hes.arrived every game I've watched he's been involved mixing it up, I'm sure his endurance will improve over the summer and camp knowing he's going into the season basically locked in at bottom 6 wing.

 

[Thirty One]

I totally meant to post this is the Andersson thread.

Ah. Much more understandable!

 

[True Blue]

Lemieux I think has done well, I like his game better than Glass, Asham, Rupp, Brashear, etc already.

Not exactly setting a high bar here.

 

[Off Sides]

Not exactly setting a high bar here.

I mentioned Lowry and Hyman after that, slightly different players to him yet I think his effect could be similar if he ends up good enough to play in a similar role as those guys do.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

HFboards- Trade for Lemieux, in 10 games if he isnt Mario it was a bad trade.