Value of: Brendan Gallagher with retention

[HabsCode]

Good for aroung 20-25 goals with proper support, 2*30 goal season, heart, grit, you know him. Not a liability defensively.

His contract is a problem, but I think Montreal would be interested in retaining.

What would be your best offer, if interested at all?

I guess value would be late first(20+) or a B prospect if retention is in the plans.

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[itwasaforwardpass]

They're not going to retain salary through six years of a contract.

 

[itwasaforwardpass]

I also expect a bounce back for Gallagher next season, depending in who they hire as coach.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

There is a market for Gallagher without retention.

He is the type of player that all the teams would like to have.

 

[McJedi]

Good for aroung 20-25 goals with proper support, 2*30 goal season, heart, grit, you know him. Not a liability defensively.

His contract is a problem, but I think Montreal would be interested in retaining.

What would be your best offer, if interested at all?

I guess value would be late first(20+) or a B prospect if retention is in the plans.

Six years of retention? You guys are very cavalier with Habs ownerships money and their future cap space. These assumptions y’all make about massive retention and/or long term retention are dubious to most other fan bases.

 

[McJedi]

There is a market for Gallagher without retention.

He is the type of player that all the teams would like to have.

There is a market for him if the Habs are taking back a bad contract with term. There isn’t a market for him if the return is picks or prospects only.

 

[HabsCode]

Six years of retention? You guys are very cavalier with Habs ownerships money and their future cap space. These assumptions y’all make about massive retention and/or long term retention are dubious to most other fan bases.

Doesn't have to be 50% retention. 1M$ or 2 makes him more interesting and isn't so bad on the cap, even for 6 years.

 

[HabsCode]

There is a market for him if the Habs are taking back a bad contract with term. There isn’t a market for him if the return is picks or prospects only.

There was no mention of not accepting bad contract back in this thread yet.

 

[2020 Cup Champions]

Doesn't have to be 50% retention. 1M$ or 2 makes him more interesting and isn't so bad on the cap, even for 6 years.

There is a limit, and therefore a value, on the number of contracts a team can retain salary on. Very few teams are going to lock themselves out of a retention slot for 6 years over a late first or B prospect.

 

[ole ole]

Good for aroung 20-25 goals with proper support, 2*30 goal season, heart, grit, you know him. Not a liability defensively.

His contract is a problem, but I think Montreal would be interested in retaining.

What would be your best offer, if interested at all?

I guess value would be late first(20+) or a B prospect if retention is in the plans.

I would guess going by this board even at 50% retention he has Negative value just like every other Hab player.

 

[McJedi]

Doesn't have to be 50% retention. 1M$ or 2 makes him more interesting and isn't so bad on the cap, even for 6 years.

Maybe. Six years is a really long time to have dead cap space on your books. Really doubt Montreal trades a guy they just signed to a long term deal. That’s probably off the table and not even under consideration in that building.

 

[McJedi]

I would guess going by this board even at 50% retention he has Negative value just like every other Hab player.

I would guess at 50% retention that Habs fans are fabricating yet another unrealistic scenario by which to pretend they can trade players that are having a down year. And somehow get draft picks for the effort.

 

[itwasaforwardpass]

I would guess at 50% retention that Habs fans are fabricating yet another unrealistic scenario by which to pretend they can trade players thay are having a down year. And somehow get draft picks for the effort.

I think you're correct but it's not unique to only Hab fans.

 

[McJedi]

I think you're correct but it's not unique to only Hab fans.

Checking trade page today. I see retention threads on Gallagher, Price and Petry. There isn’t another NHL team with 3. So I’m not sure you’re correct there. This really is more of a Habs fans obsession.

what makes it particularly a Habs obsession is that all three of those guys have long term contracts. This isn’t a Giordano concept on a one year deal. Y’all are looking at many seasons of retention on these guys.

is this some sort of MB regret? It’s pretty weird.

 

[HabsCode]

I would guess at 50% retention that Habs fans are fabricating yet another unrealistic scenario by which to pretend they can trade players thay are having a down year. And somehow get draft picks for the effort.

I see Gallagher has having similar value to JGP if the Habs retain 1.5M$, and a bad 30 games stretch when all the team is doing bad that doesn't change that.

And Ottawa got a 1st and a 2nd for him. Don't see why he couldn't fetch a late first for the "effort".

 

[McJedi]

I see Gallagher has having similar value to JGP if the Habs retain 1.5M$, and a bad 30 games stretch when all the team is doing bad that doesn't change that.

And Ottawa got a 1st and a 2nd for him. Don't see why he couldn't fetch a late first for the "effort".

Ottawa traded JPG when he was on an expiring contract pre covid and the flat cap. You’re comparing apples to orangutans.

 

[HabsCode]

Ottawa traded JPG when he was on an expiring contract pre covid and the flat cap. You’re comparing apples to orangutans.

They knew he had to be signed or else they were losing their picks for nothing, it wasn't just a rental since Islanders weren't seen as serious contender coming into these playoffs. They had no leverage for this reason and he signed for 6 years. But yeah, orangutans.

 

[Seras]

His contract is bad now and only going to go from bad to worse, good luck

 

[Djp]

Teams will not retaining 4+ yrsyrs on any salary on any player unless they are desperate to move him.

if you don’t t retain on a 5+ yr contract of a 30+ yr old is not going to get anything of value in return. This would be more of a similarcontract trade at a different position.

 

[FameFlame069]

Monahan + 1st 23 + 1st 25 + any prospect not in the top 3? For Gallagher at 4.3M? If habs want to go 2nd on each side to a 3rd team for some of the retention?

 

[HabsCode]

Monahan + 1st 23 + 1st 25 + any prospect not in the top 3? For Gallagher at 4.3M? If habs want to go 2nd on each side to a 3rd team for some of the retention?

I'll do it. Doubt Calgary would offer this thought.

 

[Big guns]

Monahan + 1st 23 + 1st 25 + any prospect not in the top 3? For Gallagher at 4.3M? If habs want to go 2nd on each side to a 3rd team for some of the retention?

This has to be a joke right??
Right? righht??????

 

[FameFlame069]

This has to be a joke right??
Right? righht??????

I believe this isn't a decline from Gally, I've always enjoyed him as a player, if I could make the move I would, 2 1sts are there for retention, Monahan cap in/out, a pretty good prospect for the term, he's a fantastic player and would do wonders for Calgary's top 6 and would add a lot of grit and defensive end coverage

 

[Stuzchuk]

They're not going to retain salary through six years of a contract.

try, Kessel @ 7x1.25M & Ekman-Larsson @ 7 x 1.15M

 

[elitepete]

Ottawa traded JPG when he was on an expiring contract pre covid and the flat cap. You’re comparing apples to orangutans.