Proposal: Brayden Schenn to Toronto
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Seems like a pretty steep price for a guy with 34 points on the year who’s paid 6.5M for this season and 2 more.
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Schenn to the Leafs this year makes them favourites IMO
I guess you don’t see it that way and fair enough
Actually as far as a deal that’s probably reasonable?
But honest question. If you were to pick schenn or o Rielly who is better?
The Leafs are going to have Timmins, Benoit, Myers in their defence next game and we want to trade one of the better assets (2026 1st) for an aging declining center?
Hey I like Schenn. But 2 firsts in value with that contract seems a little rich. Even if we are asking the Blues to take back Domi.
And it would create some cap issues this season and next.
If the Blues wanted to retain 3M so his hit was the same as Domi’s it would make more sense from our end but that would be a huge ask with the term left on his deal.
It’s probably close to a coin flip. I think Schenn has a little more left in the tank. Schenn probably holds a little more playoff value at this point because the skills of ROR aren’t what they used to be.
I’m a Leafs fan and I’m not sure Danford has that much value (I.e the equivalent of a first round pick). If he does, I’d rather add a bit more to the package above to reel in a bigger fish.
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With the cap going up, and Tavares and Marner being UFA's, I see Schenn as a good fit for Toronto. Get a playoff run with Schenn, and hopefully some more runs with the cap space.
I'd rank Danford as a B prospect today.
I'd probably do it but I'd prefer Kampf be in it instead of Domi.
Because then you can move Domi to the wing where he should have been all year then you got
Knies Matthews Marner
McMann Tavares Nylander
Domi Schenn ?
I'm tempted to put Robertson in that spot but with Jarnkrok coming back I'm not sure.
But regardless I think that's a championship caliber top 9.
People say they need a 3C and a winger, but I think if you can get a 3C you can move Domi to the wing and that kills 2 birds with 1
stone.
But it's not unfair in fact like I said I'd probably do it.
BobClarkesfrontteeth
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Leafs would need about 1.5 in retention but I would do this in a heart beat if I was Leaf managment. 2026 1st and Danford are both not relevent to helping this current core. Domi is a one trick pony (assists).
What cap space? You’re assuming Tavares and Marner are going anywhere other than being in Toronto?
The net gain of those contracts are actually going to be a plus. Tavares down about 4 million and Marner up about 2.5.
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Where there's smoke there's fire. So I think something could happen with Schenn to Toronto.
I'd like it if the deal could include some retention on Schenn. Or perhaps a useful defenseman could be included in the deal.
The offer in the OP is close as it is. But I don't love it because Schenn's season (and last) isn't too productive. And it's not like it'll get better being the 3rd fiddle in Toronto's list of centers.
I'd like it if the deal could include some retention on Schenn. Or perhaps a useful defenseman could be included in the deal.
The offer in the OP is close as it is. But I don't love it because Schenn's season (and last) isn't too productive. And it's not like it'll get better being the 3rd fiddle in Toronto's list of centers.
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StlBigFly
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I think - value argument aside - I think we could see the blues retain half a mil to 1.5. I’m not saying I think that makes the deal fair. I’m having a hard time with this one. I personally think the Canucks are the bid to beat and I don’t think anybody else can come close. They have more specific need - Schenn is kind of an ideal JT Miller-Lite, more options for the return, less cap challenges to handle the deal - especially the 2 Schenns part. They both train in BC. Also, the Canucks are crazy enough to make big trades just whenever whereas the leafs seem more restrained. It doesn’t seem realistic to me for the leafs to fit 2 Schenns into their cap no matter how generous the trading partners - both of whom are smaller market/revenue clubs which would both be asked to retain a lot for a while. I think Vancouver is the one trying to 2 Schenn the deadline, and maybe the necessary strategy for any chance at getting them to waive their clauses.
I also think you all would get a defenseman back if the trade included a defensive prospect. I think we’d give you something that was closer to or already was ready for nhl minutes. Maybe the prospect going to stl would have a bit higher pedigree? Maybe not. I think it would be more about getting the leafs better on the ice and us better in the future - none of the pieces projecting to be top line players but also no bums. If we wanted a higher pedigree defensive prospect we better have a decent nhl ready guy.
I guess I think Schenn is worth a first and some. I’m not sure 2 firsts is where a deal would end up. I don’t think we automatically get to pick your best defensive prospect. I think we’d have to make the deal work to be able to ask for that, and that means helping your team today. Lots of you all are so much better at evaluating young talent: i don’t do that. I don’t know if kessel or tucker are candidates for playoff icetime or if they’re guys you would want to linger in the bottom half of the defensive depth chart for a handful of years.
Imo given the Blues franchise’s historic record; I think the chances of 50% retention for multiple years is very low - about 0. I don’t think they would pursue deals that required this structure. I’m wrong a lot and im pretty confident on this one so it’s a great moment to put me in my place.
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STL insiders say if Schenn is moved it will likely take high end/near ready prospects to facilitate a deal. Something that we’re not waiting 3 years on, like a late 1st rounder. I’m not high on Minten, but him and Cowan were mentioned to be the likely ask from Toronto.
