Bob McKenzie Draft Lottery Edition Top 16 rankings

[Kennerback]

What does it matter if Hagens is 5OA or 4OA? Who benefits from this?

 

[Mathieukferland]

What does it matter if Hagens is 5OA or 4OA? Who benefits from this?

You don’t want to go down this rabbit hole lol

 

[Coldnwindy]

Hagens is a much better player than most in this board give him credit for. He'll be the best forward from this draft and I'd take him over Misa easily.

 

[Golden_Jet]

What does it matter if Hagens is 5OA or 4OA? Who benefits from this?

Someone gets pretty mad if he’s not first.

 

[Kennerback]

Someone gets pretty mad if he’s not first.

Whoever drafts when Hagen’s on the board won’t be influenced by these rankings. And if they are, it’s going to be a huge boon for a team that follows.

 

[Fyodorov]

Whoever drafts when Hagen’s on the board won’t be influenced by these rankings. And if they are, it’s going to be a huge boon for a team that follows.

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[Coaches Coroner]

Canadian scouts have treated our prospects so terrible for so long, people are saying the longest, I say it too. They've been so unfair! Treated very BADLY! We we take more of their prospects on our teams, than they take of ours. SAD.

 

[schuelma24]

Canadian scouts have treated our prospects so terrible for so long, people are saying the longest, I say it too. They've been so unfair! Treated very BADLY! We we take more of their prospects on our teams, than they take of ours. SAD.

Ok this is an amazing post.

 

[Giant Panda]

be american, american fatigue has impacted scouts since 2024

they let the greatest goal scorer of all time drop to the islanders just because he was american

Man, it's been 6 years since I've heard that narrative. I wish I could remember which poster kept saying it.

He's 24 now though, I don't think Wahlstrom should have been the top 5 pick many projected him to be.

 

[Kennerback]

Canadian scouts have treated our prospects so terrible for so long, people are saying the longest, I say it too. They've been so unfair! Treated very BADLY! We we take more of their prospects on our teams, than they take of ours. SAD.

If some teams start under-evaluating American College kids or American kids in general, they’ll seriously pay for it like it happened in the eighties.

 

[spfan]

I'm gonna make a prediction, Eklund is this years Sennecke and goes in the top 5.

He's not big, so GM's hate.

 

[HeadLiceHatty]

Personally I’d love Hagens on the Flyers what’s up with the hate for this kid, he’s got legit skills.

 

[ORRFForever]

Personally I’d love Hagens on the Flyers what’s up with the hate for this kid, he’s got legit skills.

Not hate. The kids above him have just outperformed Hagens over the last year.

Besides, none of it will matter. Few people remember where anyone was drafted - minus the 1OA.

 

[CheldishGamibno]

Canadian scouts have treated our prospects so terrible for so long, people are saying the longest, I say it too. They've been so unfair! Treated very BADLY! We we take more of their prospects on our teams, than they take of ours. SAD.

I'm out of the loop. Who are y'all talking about lol

 

[coooldude]

I'm out of the loop. Who are y'all talking about lol

Don't ask.

 

[boredmale]

Man, it's been 6 years since I've heard that narrative. I wish I could remember which poster kept saying it.

He's 24 now though, I don't think Wahlstrom should have been the top 5 pick many projected him to be.

Wahlstrom was generally rated in the 6-10 range and fell to 11. I do think the post in question though was about Eiserman dropping to 20

 

[Favin]

McKenzie has typically released four lists each year.

1: Pre-season (first)
2: Mid-season
3: Pre-lottery
4: Pre-draft (final)


It has usually been one of the more accurate lists (at least the final versions). But like a lot of public lists, it does often have a slight CHL bias early in the draft cycle. Call it a visibility bias, perhaps. I don’t think it is any sort of conspiracy. And it is usually corrected in later lists. Also, he is polling scouts, so even if there were some bias, he would not be his fault.

If there is anything to gripe about, his writing is the same each year. Read through old ones and you will see a lot of recycled language.


Take a look at the top-5 from his list since 2005


2025
1: Hagens, Schaefer, Frondell, Martone, Ryabkin
2: Schaefer, Hagens, Misa, Marrtone, Frondell
3: Schaefer, Misa, Martone, Frondell, Hagens
4: [June 2025]

2024
1: Celebrini, Eiserman, Demidov, Levshunov, Dickinson
2: Celebrini, Silayev, Levshunov, Eiserman, Lindstrom
3: Celebrini, Demidov, Silayev, Lindstrom, Buium
4: Celebrini, Demidov, Levshunov, Silayev, Lindstrom

2023
1: Bedard, Michkov, Fantilli, Yager, Carlsson
2: Bedard, Fantilli, Carlsson, Michkov, Benson
3: Bedard, Fantilli, Smith, Carlsson, Michkov
4: Bedard, Fantilli, Carlsson, Smith, Michkov

2022
1: Wright, Miroshnichenko, Lambert, Slafkovsky, Geekie
2: Wright, Cooley, Kemell, Savoie, Slafkovsky
3: Wright, Slafkovsky, Cooley, Nemec, Kemell
4: Slafkovsky, Wright, Cooley, Nemec, Gauthier

2021
1: n/a
2: Power, Edvinsson, Guenther, Beniers, Clarke
3: Power, Edvinsson, Guenther, Beniers, Hughes
4: Power, Beniers, Edvinsson, Eklund, McTavish

2020
1: Lafreniere, Byfield, Raymond, Holtz, Perfetti
2: Lafreniere, Byfield, Stutzle, Drysdale, Raymond
3: n/a
4: Lafreniere, Stutzle, Byfield, Drysdale, Perfetti

2019
1: Hughes, Cozens, Kakko, Podkolzin, Dach
2: Hughes, Kakko, Podkolzin, Dach, Cozens
3: Hughes, Kakko, Podkolzin, Dach, Cozens
4: Hughes, Kakko, Byram, Turcotte, Dach

2018
1: Dahlin, Svechnikov, Tkachuk, Boqvist, Smith
2: Dahlin, Svechnikov, Zadina, Tkachuk, Boqvist
3: Dahlin, Svechnikov, Zadina, Tkachuk, Bouchard
4: Dahlin, Svechnikov, Tkachuk, Zadina, Kotkaniemi

2017
1: Patrick, Liljegren, Kostin, Comtois, Tolvanen
2: Patrick, Hischier, Liljegren, Vilardi, Mittelstadt
3: Patrick, Hischier, Vilardi, Heiskanen, Mittelstadt
4: Hischier, Patrick, Heiskanen, Makar, Vilardi

2016
1: Matthews, Chychrun, Puljujarvi, Laine, Tkachuk
2: Matthews, Laine, Puljujarvi, Tkachuk, Chychrun
3: n/a
4: Matthews, Laine, Puljujarvi, Tkachuk, Dubois

2015
1: McDavid, Eichel, Hanifin, Zacha, Crouse
2: McDavid, Eichel, Hanifin, Strome, Marner
3: n/a
4: McDavid, Eichel, Hanifin, Marner, Strome

2014
1: Ekblad, Reinhart, Nylander, Draisaitl, Bennett
2: Ekblad, Reinhart, Bennett, Dal Colle, Draisaitl
3: Ekblad, Reinhart, Bennett, Draisaitl, Dal Colle
4: Ekblad, Reinhart, Bennett, Draisaitl, Dal Colle

2013
1: MacKinnon, Jones, Monahan, Lindholm, Ristolainen
2: Jones, MacKinnon, Drouin, Barkov, Lindholm
3: Jones, MacKinnon, Drouin, Barkov, Nichushkin
4: MacKinnon, Jones, Drouin, Barkov, Lindholm

2012
1: Yakupov, Dumba, Forsberg, Murray, Galchenyuk
2: Yakupov, Grigorenko, Murray, Forsberg, Dumba
3: n/a
4: Yakupov, Murray, Forsberg, Reinhart, Galchenyuk

2011
1: Couturier, Larsson, Nugent-Hopkins, Landeskog, Saad
2: Larsson, Nugent-Hopkins, Landeskog, Couturier, Hamilton
3: Nugent-Hopkins, Larsson, Landeskog, Huberdeau, Couturier
4: Nugent-Hopkins, Larsson, Huberdeau, Landeskog, Couturier

2010
1: Hall, Fowler, Seguin, Kabanov, Connolly
2: Hall, Seguin, Fowler, Connolly, Gudbranson
3: Hall, Seguin, Fowler, Gudbranson, Connolly
4: Hall, Seguin, Gudbranson, Gormley, Fowler

2009
1: Hedman, Tavares, Cowen, Duchene, Schenn
2: Tavares, Hedman, Duchene, Kane, Schenn
3: Tavares, Hedman, Duchene, Kane, Paajarvi
4: Tavares, Hedman, Duchene, Kane, Schenn

2008
1: Stamkos, Doughty, Pietrangelo, Del Zotto, Schenn
2: Stamkos, Doughty, Pietrangelo, Bogosian, Beach
3: n/a
4: Stamkos, Doughty, Bogosian, Pietrangelo, Filatov

2007
1: n/a
2: n/a
3: n/a
4: Kane, Van Riemsdyk, Turris, Alzner, Cherepanov

2006
1: n/a
2: n/a
3: n/a
4: Johnson, Toews, Kessel, Staal, Backstrom

2005
1: n/a
2: n/a
3: n/a
4: Crosby, Johnson, Pouliot, Ryan, Kopitar

 

[newfy]

I think come draft day, the dmen will go earlier than you think in this draft. Seems like teams value the chance at D over wingers big time

 

[JayBeagleFanAccount]

cant wait for this draft to be over; the discourse is so tedious

 

[Kingpin794]

cant wait for this draft to be over; the discourse is so tedious

Got bad news for you if you think some folks are going to let some stuff go as soon as a name is called.

 

[Star Platinum]

Canadian scouts have treated our prospects so terrible for so long, people are saying the longest, I say it too. They've been so unfair! Treated very BADLY! We we take more of their prospects on our teams, than they take of ours. SAD.

We need retaliatory tariffs on the OHL.

 

[Andrei79]

Guys, guys, what's with all the venomous accusations ?

Yes, this is a divided time, but in reality all of us are in this together, 51 states united under God.