Rumor: Bo Horvat All Purpose Thread (Part 1)

[Avalanche2133]

I know it’s the worst kept secret that Colorado needs a 2C but here Lebrun discusses some guys Colorado will probably target and makes sense.

LeBrun rumblings: Enticing NHL trade candidates (O'Reilly? Horvat?) and potential deadline buyers emerging early in 2022-23

Ryan O'Reilly, Bo Horvat and Jonathan Toews could all be on the market, and at least one NHL powerhouse is well-positioned to bid on them.

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[innitfam]

Thanks LeBrun.

"Watch out for a top contender, with an obvious missing piece and cap space, target one of the few players who are available to slot in the role"

 

[A Loyal Demidog]

I would never entertain a trade with Sakic. He fleeces everyone, every time.

 

[EP to Kuzmenko]

I would never entertain a trade with Sakic. He fleeces everyone, every time.

Montreal made out pretty good with a 2nd and Byron. Sure Col won the cup and re-signed him, but I don't think they got fleeced.

 

[miscs75]

Toews plays with Colorado every night pending injury. Are they trying to pick up David now too?

 

[Balthazar]

Montreal made out pretty good with a 1st and Byron.

It was a 2nd and Barron.

I would never entertain a trade with Sakic. He fleeces everyone, every time.

He's no longer the GM (at least he isn't on paper).


Also Lebrun should know that ROR isn't going back to Colorado.

 

[Schemp]

I would never entertain a trade with Sakic. He fleeces everyone, every time.

...so you recommend losing the players to free agency?

 

[EP to Kuzmenko]

...so you recommend losing the players to free agency?

Bo will have so many suitors this TDL Colorado will need Newhook and a 1st to compete.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

I would never entertain a trade with Sakic. He fleeces everyone, every time.

Sakic doesn't really "fleece" people. He has a phenomenal pro scouting staff that can find good players and he builds good relationships so he can pay a fair price for those players.

 

[Elbombatzo]

Radar back in Colorado would be sooo awesome. always had a weakspot for him as a player, even with the blues. but i dont think this will happen.

 

[Schemp]

Bo will have so many suitors this TDL Colorado will need Newhook and a 1st to compete.

I would imagine that which ever team gives the best assets will get the soon-to-be UFA regardless who it is...

 

[IWantSakicAsMyGM]

Bo will have so many suitors this TDL Colorado will need Newhook and a 1st to compete.

How many playoff teams do you think need a 2C and will have the cap space to add him (or would pay extra for retention)?

 

[Wats]

Montreal made out pretty good with a 1st and Byron. Sure Col won the cup and re-signed him, but I don't think they got fleeced.

They actually got a 2nd and Barron. It's not really that great of a return, maybe fair/slight overpayment at best. Barron couldn't even make Montreal's team which had open spots...he's behind 4 rookies on D already.

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

will any push type trade COL makes this year most likely be Newhook as the youthful piece being moved?

 

[nbwingsfan]

How many playoff teams do you think need a 2C and will have the cap space to add him (or would pay extra for retention)?

From what I can tell:
Boston :will definitely try and sign him long term too. Have no problem trading for retention

Vegas: is Stephenson really a 2C? Have no problem trading for retention

Canes: KK ain’t it

Wild: depends if you see them as contenders

Kraken: see above

 

[BKarchitect]

I can see it but not till much closer to the deadline.

For Vegas - people keep doubting Stephenson and yet he continues to just get the job done. With Eichel/Stephenson/Karlsson down the middle (and Roy too if need be), hard to imagine them as players for a big name center.

Similar with Seattle - I think they are pretty happy with Beniers/Wennberg/Gourde. Little reason for them to go all in at this point.

 

[EP to Kuzmenko]

How many playoff teams do you think need a 2C and will have the cap space to add him (or would pay extra for retention)?

Lots by TDL once LTIR cap kicks in. esp if we retain him down to 2.25m. Teams wanting Bo are going all in.

 

[Djp]

I do t see Colorado doing this

they moved their 23 1st and 2nd
they traded their 2nd in 23 and 24.

they will likely move players before moving a 1st Like newhook.

it woukd be something like trading Girard for a 2nd+ prospect to a non playoff team and thrn moving their 1st or that 2nd for a a 2C.

 

[BKarchitect]

I do t see Colorado doing this

they moved their 23 1st and 2nd
they traded their 2nd in 23 and 24.

they will likely move players before moving a 1st Like newhook.

it woukd be something like trading Girard for a 2nd+ prospect to a non playoff team and thrn moving their 1st or that 2nd for a a 2C.

I agree but depends how high they are aiming. Toews will cost a lot less than Horvat who even as a rental is going to cost a pretty penny.

 

[Tufted Titmouse]

Easy B2B if they get Horvat.

 

[nammerus]

I do t see Colorado doing this

they moved their 23 1st and 2nd
they traded their 2nd in 23 and 24.

they will likely move players before moving a 1st Like newhook.

it woukd be something like trading Girard for a 2nd+ prospect to a non playoff team and thrn moving their 1st or that 2nd for a a 2C.

They still have there ‘23 1st.

Everything should be on the table. Any 1st in the next 2-3 years and any prospect. Outside of Vegas, the west will be a relative cake-walk, and they should use their small window to go for the repeat.

 

[ffh]

Does an insider really need to make such obvious proclamations. Pending ufas to contending teams. No shit. Time to start a new thread. I know towes isn’t a ufa but the other 2 are and towes possibly looking to move is old news

 

[AHLdepth]

Sakic doesn't really "fleece" people. He has a phenomenal pro scouting staff that can find good players and he builds good relationships so he can pay a fair price for those players.

Anytime I start the blueprint for what I would do as the GM of the Canucks, my first step is always pry away Brad Smith from you guys. Was completely sold on the guy when I learned that he went to Sakic with two lower key defenseman to target in deals and they were Toews (rest speaks for itself) and the other guy was Weegar (who broke out huge that season)

 

[Cogburn]

This is just pre-emptive cushioning before Newhook, Byram and a haul of draft picks are moved for one of them.

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

ill be curious what Horvats return would be seeing that hes just a rental