Better format for next World Cup

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NA under 23 and Europe was ridiculously stupid for as much as I liked watching NA. To make this thing seem legit get rid of the gimmicks.


This is not a legitimate tournament. The whole thing is a gimmick. Team Europe and NA were to make it more competitive. The goal was to generate revenue and maybe promote the game. How many team NA jersey did they sell? $$$$ my friend.
 
Or one group, so there are no easy or difficult paths to finals.
6 teams, 5 games each. Top 2 would play final series.
 
Expanding the number of countries/teams taking part will not work since it has to be squeezed into the space between summer and the start of the real games. One problem the NHL has had with the OG is that they take too long. So yeah, a 3 week tournament won't work. It will also increase the wear and tear on players not yet in mid-season condition so the danger of injuries increases.

I still think it should be renamed the Canada Cup since it apparently will only take place in Canada (maybe the US in the distant future). Of course the host country will always have the advantage so couple that with Canadas superiority and we will have what we have today, Canada just cruising and making for a boring tournament for everyone except Canadian fans. The great thing of the OG is that it's played on different sized rinks, giving smaller countries with many non-NHL players a better chance of an upset and somewhat leveling the playing field. When you already know who is going to win, it's just tedious. As well as this WHC was tailor made for the US and Canada meeting in the final. Fun times that.

Apparently Bob Nicholson is pushing for the next WHC to be played in Edmonton so obviously this is an Canadian tournament. The NHLPA is supposed to represent all their players but they too either see the financial rewards (which come out to about 50,000$ per player) as paramount or they were pressured by the owners into taking part. I'm actually surprised that the NHLPA has embraced the WHC knowing it will decrease the chances of taking part in the next OG when it's obvious the majority of players really want to go to the olympics.
 
The best would be:

8 teams u23 can stay, europe not(lets presume swiss instead with same results)


World cup B with other 8 teams played in europe. One week before start of world cup A. Top two team move to Toronto

First team from world cup B against Finland
Second team from world cup B against USA

Afternoons before final games.

Next word cup
Top 6 from current wc
Two winners of relegaton games
 
didn't read the entire thread so forgive me if i am repeating this idea.

select 4 top coaches, and let them pick 4 'all star' teams. players from anywhere in the world.

theoretically, the games should be competitive. there will be no nationalistic bickering.

that would be the best scenario for fans, IMO.
 
Group A:
Canada
United States
Switzerland
Czech Republic
Belarus

Group B
Russia
Sweden
Finland
Slovakia
North America (24 and under but Canada/USA get first dibs and whoever is left over from 24 and under can be selected)

Top 2 in each group get byes, third place teams play each other.


North America was a much more entertaining team than any team you will find at 8-10 in the IIHF standings. N/A also had a decent sized fan-base for this tournament.
 
Group A: Sweden
Russia
Czech Rep.
Europe

Group B: USA
Team NA
Finland
Switzerland

Then: Semis

Final

Winner vs Canada in best of three ;).
 
I've been following international hockey for years and there are some very good officiating from referees elsewhere. There are some bad ones, but the good ones exist too. It is extremely arrogant from Canadians to think we are the only ones who are good. Even the US in other sports aren't this arrogant.

Other than the OG and World Cup, I don't watch international hockey so in theory I guess you might be right. I'm skeptical though. The NHL has the best players in the world and the hockey is played at a higher tempo than anywhere else and it's hard to see how a referee could possibly among the best without having any NHL experience. Especially when we're talking about a tournament that's full of NHL players it's hard to see how anything but NHL referees makes sense. JMHO.
 
Expanding the number of countries/teams taking part will not work since it has to be squeezed into the space between summer and the start of the real games. One problem the NHL has had with the OG is that they take too long. So yeah, a 3 week tournament won't work. It will also increase the wear and tear on players not yet in mid-season condition so the danger of injuries increases.

That's right. Plus it would further dilute the calibre of the competition.

Make the WC the best and most competitive hockey tournament in the world. 6 teams is my preference.
 
The best would be:

8 teams u23 can stay, europe not(lets presume swiss instead with same results)


World cup B with other 8 teams played in europe. One week before start of world cup A. Top two team move to Toronto

First team from world cup B against Finland
Second team from world cup B against USA

Afternoons before final games.

Next word cup
Top 6 from current wc
Two winners of relegaton games

This is a pretty good idea, actually...
 
Better format would be a neutral and more serious tournament. That means no more benfits for the NA teams and no gimmick teams

No more refs with conflict of interest, played on neutral ground, organised by a neutral organisation, and only real national teams. The fact that one have to wish for this things shows in what condition the sport is in.
 
This:

Canada A
World Youngsters
Finland
Russia
Slovakia
Norway

Canada B
USA
Team World/Europe/Best of the Rest
Switzerland
Sweden
Czech

Makes everyone happy and includes all best hockey players.
 
This:

Canada A
World Youngsters
Finland
Russia
Slovakia
Norway

Canada B
USA
Team World/Europe/Best of the Rest
Switzerland
Sweden
Czech

Makes everyone happy and includes all best hockey players.

I want to see a team reject

Players that were not selected by their teams

Subban,hall, faulk, kessel, huberdeau , brodi , giordano, johansen (sp?)
Lucic, domi, i cant think of others
 
They should just go full on gimmick mode next time. Have 12 teams, 6 per group, each one represents a month of the year, and players play for whichever month they are born in. Call it the Calendar Cup

Group A:
January
March
May
July
September
November

Group B:
Febuary
April
June
August
October
December

Top 4 teams from each group make it.


/s
 
Just do Canada - USA series every year. Nobody cares of this NHL gimmick anyway. Outside Canada.

It's less of a gimmick than the "World Hockey Championships" where most of the best players aren't there. And that's an annual event.
 
A national league holding an international tournament makes no sense. Screw it for good.
 
It's less of a gimmick than the "World Hockey Championships" where most of the best players aren't there. And that's an annual event.

Everyone is invited though. Can't snob a tournament and then say "We didn't have the best players there, therefore it means nothing": next time simply show up and put your money where your mouth also is, no?
 
In next tournament split Canada to 2-4 parts ands get rid of young guns. Quebec, ontario etc
 
playoff-games should be best of 3. Its not fair with 1 game.

Not gonna happen. It could make teams play too many games, and this would increase the injury risk before the NHL season. Although, as a fan, I would like it.
 
Hmm I think this would be a better:

Pool 1
Canada Ontario
Canada Quebec
Canada West
Rest of Canada

Pool 2
Canada Ontario 2
Canada Quebec 2
Euros
USA

Team Quebec would be bad enough, cant imagine how terrible the team Quebec 2 would be.
 

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