Of course it's riddled with flaws, there is no flawless way to say how a player will perform on another team. But if Bertuzzi goes to a team with more talent, hius ice-time is going to drop because on better teams, he's not a first line player.
Signed to a reasonable contract say 5 x 5 Bertuzzi's value is every bit as much as Mantha's similar scoring pace and all. So Yzerman would want a similar younger player back a 1st and 2nd round pick and a cap dump. Graves and a 1st alone doesn't cut since the 1st is going to be late anyways.
lmao. why do y'all gotta go into threads about players you have clearly never seen. my god
As I said, it depends on the team and fit. We see players move to new teams and sometimes they do better, the rest of the time they do worse. My whole point is just because someone is saying they think someone will do worse, it isn't necessarily a bad opinion, or trolling as the guy was accused of.
The last time the Avalanche experimented with someone associated with Uncle Todd it was a disaster. Trading for someone who already has been booed ever time he touched the puck in our arena is problematic at best.
Well that doesn’t help that user’s claim that he’s a 30-35 pt player on a contender. Nor has that user accounted for QoC/QoT in their claim but merely adjust for points by multiplying Bert’s p/60 with a 25-30% reduction when their is multiple metrics that need to be accounted for. That user also has mentioned Zadorov but has mentioned that Saad in his 24-25 age season was traded for Panarin. I’m not saying Bert is worth anything remotely close to that but rather how someone is cherry picking what to bring in to fit their narrative.
Definitely an odd trade, but my point was really how that user failed to mention that trade so seems a bit like cherry picking & using stats incorrectly to fit a narrative. They using their own speculation as facts and saying people on this board would laugh at a first rounder when multiple in this thread are happy to offer said package.
And it’s hard to know hat value GMs will send and get back in a trade. I’m sure some old school GMs would place more value on a player like Bertuzzi.
I can’t say I’ve ever see a Detroit fan inquire about his value/availability. We have other significant deficiencies in our roster that a bottom six forward doesn’t rank to high plus if we need grit we have Bertuzzi, Erne, and Smith.
They tried that with Brad May and it was a disaster. On top of all the reasons he doesn't fit, he's toxic with your fan base.
