Belarus, 8th nation since 2019 Draft

[wetcoast]

I don't think it's complicated to understand and yet...

I'm talking about the future based since the 2019 draft until the 2024 draft. Belarus is clearly above Switzerland. 6 straight draft classes where Belarus has the upper hand. And the potential star player in the lot leans very clearly towards the Belarusian side.

So the Swiss players of today like Josi, Fiala, Niederreiter, Hischier will no longer be there and do not exist in my perspective. The problem is that Swiss players selected in the 3rd round have become extremely rare.

I was responding to the comment of Belarus passing the Swiss by 2030 originally so Nico is still going to be around but it will be interesting to watch.

 

[Dirtyf1ghter]

Here is the list of what a Belarusian group would be with a player rating.

Pos	Player	Year	Rating
GB	Alexei KOLOSOV	2002​	71​
GB	Ivan KULBAKOV	1996​	70​
GB	Pavel MOYSEVICH	2004​	70​
DD/G	Stepan FALKOVSKY	1996​	72​
DD	Artyom LEVSHUNOV	2005​	69​
DD/G	Sergei SAPEGO	1999​	67​
DD/G	Kirill GOTOVETS	1991​	65​
DG	Maksim MATUSHKIN	1990​	74​
DG	Vladislav KOLYACHONOK	2001​	72​
DG	Ilya SOLOVYOV	2000​	72​
DG	Daniil MISYUL	2000​	66​
AD	Daniil BOKUV	1996​	65​
AD	Vadim MOROZ	2003​	66​
AD	Yegor RIMASHEVSKY	2005​	66​
AD	Igor MARTYNOV	1999​	64​
AG	Yegr SHARANGOVICH	1998​	83​
AG	Vladimir ALISTROV	2001​	73​
AG	Alexander SKORENOV	1999​	71​
AG	Pavel KARNAUKHOV	1997​	69​
CE	Alexei PROTAS	2001​	81​
CE	Ilya USOV	2001​	69​
CE	Danila KLIMOVICH	2003​	67​
CE	Vitali PINCHUK	2002​	66​
AD	Kirill PETKOV	1998​	65​
CE	Andrei STAS	1988​	65​

In my assessment, this gives (in parentheses, 2023 rating) :

1. Canada 2233 (2227)
2. USA 2225 (2216)
3. Sweden 2174 (2170)
4. Russia 2159 (2164)
5. Finland 2110 (2109)
6. Czechia 2018 (2064)
7. Switzerland 1937 (1947)
8. Germany 1875 (1862)
9. Slovakia 1869 (1870)
10. Belarus 1738 (1700)

Very big progress this year with Protas and depth. As already mentioned, I removed all those naturalized and considered as Belarusian those born in Belarus like Matushkin but that doesn't change much.
Next to that, USA is still getting closer to Canada, Sweden is still ahead of Russia, Czechia is experiencing a big drop with retirements like Voracek, Slovakia is stagnating with the withdrawal of the last players of the old generation (Halak) and remains 9th.

 

[Eye of Ra]

Here is the list of what a Belarusian group would be with a player rating.

Pos	Player	Year	Rating
GB	Alexei KOLOSOV	2002​	71​
GB	Ivan KULBAKOV	1996​	70​
GB	Pavel MOYSEVICH	2004​	70​
DD/G	Stepan FALKOVSKY	1996​	72​
DD	Artyom LEVSHUNOV	2005​	69​
DD/G	Sergei SAPEGO	1999​	67​
DD/G	Kirill GOTOVETS	1991​	65​
DG	Maksim MATUSHKIN	1990​	74​
DG	Vladislav KOLYACHONOK	2001​	72​
DG	Ilya SOLOVYOV	2000​	72​
DG	Daniil MISYUL	2000​	66​
AD	Daniil BOKUV	1996​	65​
AD	Vadim MOROZ	2003​	66​
AD	Yegor RIMASHEVSKY	2005​	66​
AD	Igor MARTYNOV	1999​	64​
AG	Yegr SHARANGOVICH	1998​	83​
AG	Vladimir ALISTROV	2001​	73​
AG	Alexander SKORENOV	1999​	71​
AG	Pavel KARNAUKHOV	1997​	69​
CE	Alexei PROTAS	2001​	81​
CE	Ilya USOV	2001​	69​
CE	Danila KLIMOVICH	2003​	67​
CE	Vitali PINCHUK	2002​	66​
AD	Kirill PETKOV	1998​	65​
CE	Andrei STAS	1988​	65​

In my assessment, this gives (in parentheses, 2023 rating) :

1. Canada 2233 (2227)
2. USA 2225 (2216)
3. Sweden 2174 (2170)
4. Russia 2159 (2164)
5. Finland 2110 (2109)
6. Czechia 2018 (2064)
7. Switzerland 1937 (1947)
8. Germany 1875 (1862)
9. Slovakia 1869 (1870)
10. Belarus 1738 (1700)

Very big progress this year with Protas and depth. As already mentioned, I removed all those naturalized and considered as Belarusian those born in Belarus like Matushkin but that doesn't change much.
Next to that, USA is still getting closer to Canada, Sweden is still ahead of Russia, Czechia is experiencing a big drop with retirements like Voracek, Slovakia is stagnating with the withdrawal of the last players of the old generation (Halak) and remains 9th.

Most people agree that Russia, Czechia and Finland is ahead of Sweden. Whats your argument that Sweden is nr 3?

 

[wetcoast]

Most people agree that Russia, Czechia and Finland is ahead of Sweden. Whats your argument that Sweden is nr 3?

By most people do you mean yourself and the guy in your mirror?

 

[Eye of Ra]

By most people do you mean yourself and the guy in your mirror?

nope

 

[wetcoast]

nope

I'm pretty sure that if we did a poll it would be a pretty big yes.

 

[kp61c]

funny how Belarus is punished for Putin's actions while US and its flunkies can attack and destroy sovereign countries on their own free will with absolute impunity

 

[Eye of Ra]

I'm pretty sure that if we did a poll it would be a pretty big yes.

Becuse many swedish fans here. I can give you 1 exemple of a serious debater in this very thread who im pretty sure has Russia, Czechia, Germany, Swiss and Finland over Sweden. @WarriorofTime

 

[wetcoast]

Becuse many swedish fans here. I can give you 1 exemple of a serious debater in this very thread who im pretty sure has Russia, Czechia, Germany, Swiss and Finland over Sweden. @WarriorofTime

In that's the case then there would be 2 guys, not most.

Heck even if you excluded Swedish fans most people simply wouldn't take Finland their back end just isn't that good.

 

[WarriorofTime]

By most people do you mean yourself and the guy in your mirror?

Why am I considered a Sweden hater now? lol

 

[wetcoast]

Why am I considered a Sweden hater now? lol

My quote doesn't mention you?

The other guy mentioned that you would have Sweden 8th overall in the world, maybe take it with him if not true?

 

[WarriorofTime]

My quote doesn't mention you?

The other guy mentioned that you would have Sweden 8th overall in the world, maybe take it with him if not true?

I dunno why he claims I would put Sweden 8th. I think they are 3rd or 4th.

 

[wetcoast]

I dunno why he claims I would put Sweden 8th. I think they are 3rd or 4th.

I dunno ask him, he seems to have this thing for Sweden.

 

[Dirtyf1ghter]

Best draft year with the record of Levshunov and Moysevich and Protas selected in the 3rd round.

 

[Dirtyf1ghter]

We all want more depth in international hocley but sadly, this is nothing but wishful thinking by you. Wet dreams. Nothing more.

Of course Jamiro Reber is a reference...it proved you're not actually watching players. So how would you be able to judge even younger kids if you haven't even watched Reber? Again, wet dreams.

Drafted players are nice but I suggest you look into stats how many players, especially from the later rounds, actually make it to the NHL, let alone become regulars or stars. It's a nice story for sure but it doesn't actually mean anything.

Levshunov didn't even get drafted yet. You might wanna hold your horses there. Not a bad prospect but way too early for victory laps.

More Belarusians in the KHL is a nice story as well but the KHL also isn't anymore what it once was.

Sorry if I just destroyed your fantasy world.

Levshunov 2nd, Reber undrafted.

Sorry if NHL teams just destroyed your fantasy world.