Bartkowski hit on Gionta (No Supplemental Discipline)

[stokes84]

He didn't hit him in the head, that's what I meant.

Doesn't have to be a headshot to be a dirty play. Blindside, defenseless player who never touched the puck. Just an ugly play all around.

 

[The Overseer*]

He didn't hit him in the head, that's what I meant.

Every single replay shows Bartkowski's shoulder hitting Gionta in the head.

 

[Pepper]

Every single replay shows Bartkowski's shoulder hitting Gionta in the head.

Yes but it was a full body hit with shoulder being the primary point of contact. You CAN hit opponents in the head, you just can't target the head and/or make it the PPOC.

 

[Frederick Stanley]

Doesn't have to be a headshot to be a dirty play. Blindside, defenseless player who never touched the puck. Just an ugly play all around.

For me, it does. Blindside full body hits should never be illegal.

Every single replay shows Bartkowski's shoulder hitting Gionta in the head.

Yeah, after he hit his shoulder.

 

[Skip2myBordyloo]

Only problem here is Gionta never touched the puck. 5 minute interference is the correct call.

Not suspendable.

 

[SenatorArmy*]

The only thing I dont like about the hit is the embellishment. Was the cartwheel really necessary? Gionta is lucky he didn't get a fine

 

[BowieSabresFan]

Wait are you serious? So taller players need to crouch down now to accomodate smaller players when making their checks? Is that what you're saying

The onus is on the hitter in that situation, so yes, he does have to take height into account when initiating a hit.

 

[The Overseer*]

For me, it does. Blindside full body hits should never be illegal.


Yeah, after he hit his shoulder.

This got 3 games last year:




If the Department of Player Safety has a shred of integrity, they have to suspend Bartkowski on that precedent alone.

 

[BowieSabresFan]

The only thing I dont like about the hit is the embellishment. Was the cartwheel really necessary? Gionta is lucky he didn't get a fine

I assume you're joking there.

 

[TehDoak]

To me, the fact that its a blind side hit really carries weight. No previous suspension history will play in as well. Didn't intentionally target head as far as I can tell.

1 game. Maybe 2 is my guess

 

[CJDolan]

Can we get a title update to show that there will be no supplemental discipline?

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

Clear, clear, clear headshot, though I'm not ready to say Bartkoswski intended to lay one, but it was Brian Gionta. Had it not been one of the 4 smallest player in the East, it would not have been a headshot. And it was also ovbvious interference.

Got the pounding he deserved and hopefully will sit out 3-4 games.

Who Foligno ? That was embarrassing and I'm pretty sure he never came back out after Bart tagged him good at the end.

But sure that was a pounding Bart did pretty good for his first fight in the NHL vs a much bigger cream puff.

Oh and It was called correctly on the ice 5m for interference nothing more will come out of it.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

The only thing I dont like about the hit is the embellishment. Was the cartwheel really necessary? Gionta is lucky he didn't get a fine

old habits are hard to brake he was well trained.

 

[nbwingsfan]

You guys are killing me when I see ''beautiful hit other than it's interference''. These types of hit are the most dangerous as the player isn't preparing himself to be hit. Interference hits are in the same categorie of hit from behind in my book. It's gutless.

Not in this scenario when Gionta was mere inches from touching the puck, he should have been bracing for the hit regardless.

If Gionta was no where near the puck then yes I get what you were saying, but in this play if his stick were an inch longer he would have been playing the puck and this would have been the hit of the year.

Gionta clearly had every intent to try and play the puck, just whiffed.

 

[Pepper]

This got 3 games last year:




If the Department of Player Safety has a shred of integrity, they have to suspend Bartkowski on that precedent alone.

Ummm that's totally different. Edler hit Hertl's head only, that hit is not even remotely similar to this one.

Interference is the only (possible/likely) issue, not the contact itself.

 

[Frederick Stanley]

Kind of reminds of the hit against Havlat in terms of the player just missing the puck.

 

[nbwingsfan]

The onus is on the hitter in that situation, so yes, he does have to take height into account when initiating a hit.

No its not, its on the player to be aware of his surroundings and to actually have his head up when trying to make a play for the puck.

I hate people that have this "you can't hit the guy if his head is down" theory.

Without a doubt the number one thing you are taught when you first enter a competitive hockey league that allows hitting is "KEEP YOUR HEAD UP". People seem to have forgot that.

 

[Pepper]

Kind of reminds of the hit against Havlat in terms of the player just missing the puck.

Or the hit against Stuart who tried to hit the puck but just missed it and then Kostopoulos crushed him.

 

[DickSmehlik]

Foligno doled out all of the discipline that was needed.

It's games like this where Buffalo misses Scott. Seeing Lucic backpedal faster than a corner back from the line of scrimmage was priceless.

 

[Over the volcano]

Foligno doled out all of the discipline that was needed.

It's games like this where Buffalo misses Scott. Seeing Lucic backpedal faster than a corner back from the line of scrimmage was priceless.

Didn't Lucic bust his nose last time they were on the ice together?

 

[The Overseer*]

Ummm that's totally different. Edler hit Hertl's head only, that hit is not even remotely similar to this one.

Interference is the only (possible/likely) issue, not the contact itself.

Edler hit body and head. Same as Barkowski.

 

[Pepper]

Edler hit body and head. Same as Barkowski.

No he didn't. In Edler's hit head was the PPOC and the target of the hit.

 

[The Overseer*]

No he didn't. In Edler's hit head was the PPOC and the target of the hit.

Nonsense. Watch the video.

 

[Pepper]

Nonsense. Watch the video.

I did, the hits have very little in common.

But you can believe what you want, I don't think many agree with you.

 

[Insomniac99]

Big shocker. Boston gets another free pass. Didnt see that coming at all. /s