I would for sure add 15 and 19 to this list. it appears as though we were sold on a product of a line that is just not doing anything.
Barrie Colts 2024 - 25 Season Thread, Part I
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For sure but at the end of the day the playoffs are the only thing that really matters. Right now tho that doesn’t look real promising but who knows. #15 has the skill but is lacking physicality so I definitely think there’s a decent possibility he returns next year unless he wants to play ncaa. And if he returns next year that trade looks a lot better for Barrie.
He will return- no way he is ready for AHL. I don't see how that line turns it on and dominates come playoff time but we will see. 53-29-21 are the guys for us they have to carry it.
Agree but I think u need to change the lines need more than 1 line going maybe give hemming a top center id maybe try
71-29-28
19-81-53
21-25-15
85-84-whoever u want 91-27-74
Then D id go
12-77
8-86
74-88
Gotta try different things to find something before playoffs need to get 3 lines going every game.
I would continue to go 11-7 with this team to be honest. Gives marty a chance to get Jelsma or Hemming an extra shift every once in a while and not like anyone really deserves the spot. Plus I think Armstrong has a chance to gain some confidence and be a good player. He has the talent he just needs to get more comfortable.
I think especially with Bertucci out he definitely has to move to one PP unit instead of trying to spread it out. I would go 28 and 77 on their one timer sides with 86 up top 53 in the middle and 29 in front. Especially if 81 is suspended.
Yeah I agree with the 11-7 when the full team is healthy for sure unfortunately 19 81 have had majors in the first and second periods of the last 2 games then your down to 10 forwards. After forward 11 on this team there ain’t much left in terms of depth. Would have been nice to pickup a true heavy weight forward that wouldn’t have cost much but I think Derbidge is a good lockeroom guy so Marty kept him.
Yes it is an issue when someone gets kicked out but they should have better discipline than that. 91 actually had a decent run of games a while back before the trade with some injuries when he was up with 29 and 53 but I think it was just due to him playing with our two best forwards lol.
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this team is blowing up, when they all play the same, struggle the same you look to the coaching staff. redline-dump-stand around comes from Marty!
Not really a fan of how the lines are being deployed right now... not enough forwards are playing well enough right now to spread it across 3 lines. Make 2 lines that can win their shifts and contribute offense and have the third line just try and shut it down and not get scored on.
Once again, HREBIK was incredible! He gives them a chance to win every game he's in. Those saves in OT were unreal. They had no business winning last night and for that matter he stole the game against the Pete's - both games that technically should have been easy wins. 2 of the youngest teams in the league. Add Owen Sound to that group.
This team is in serious trouble right now and I'm not overly confident that the ship can be righted at this point. They've traded away their top picks and barely play the young kids that are left. Imagine having Ellinas, Moses, and Vaughan mixed in with the talent they already had playing this year and going into next. It made zero sense to try to build around the 04 and 05 age group but what's done is done.
This team should have gone all in around the 06's with the amount of solid ones they had with 05s as the OA's. They could have done so without selling off their future. Unless things turn around they appear to have made some serious miscalculations with the moves they made. I hope I am wrong and all of this talent can figure things out.
They went for it a year too early IMO. Zero disrespect to the OA's we have now as they all have had excellent careers but the timing here just wasn't right. No matter what any team did with trades no one is likely going to beat London this year-Kitchener and Windsor both hit a year early and too many teams loaded up in the East. All of those teams save London are doing it with young kids on their rosters playing serious minutes and Marty refuses to give his young kids much more than 4th line and 3rd pairing minutes and traded the top picks away.
Underperforming vets and the staff's unwillingness to make adjustments throughout the games/losing streaks is sinking this team. No one is held accountable for their play and poor decisions. Coach's just keep running the same players out -sometimes they tinker with lines during games but its always the same 9 and 4-5 that get the majority of ice. I understand giving most of the ice to top 3 lines and top 2 pairings but when a team is struggling you have to make adjustments and look for some new looks. That may include sending some messages to some of their underperforming vets.
It was talked about months ago that sometimes there is too much talent and experience on rosters. Everyone on this top 9 and top 4 expects to be the guy and very few of them are stepping up and seizing the opportunity to lead this team.
There is zero chemistry right now with all of this 'skill', The players don't appear to be having any fun and more often then not lately any success they are having can be attributed to 2-3 players and the goalies.
I hope these boys can find a spark and start playing to the potential many of us see.
This team is in serious trouble right now and I'm not overly confident that the ship can be righted at this point. They've traded away their top picks and barely play the young kids that are left. Imagine having Ellinas, Moses, and Vaughan mixed in with the talent they already had playing this year and going into next. It made zero sense to try to build around the 04 and 05 age group but what's done is done.
This team should have gone all in around the 06's with the amount of solid ones they had with 05s as the OA's. They could have done so without selling off their future. Unless things turn around they appear to have made some serious miscalculations with the moves they made. I hope I am wrong and all of this talent can figure things out.
They went for it a year too early IMO. Zero disrespect to the OA's we have now as they all have had excellent careers but the timing here just wasn't right. No matter what any team did with trades no one is likely going to beat London this year-Kitchener and Windsor both hit a year early and too many teams loaded up in the East. All of those teams save London are doing it with young kids on their rosters playing serious minutes and Marty refuses to give his young kids much more than 4th line and 3rd pairing minutes and traded the top picks away.
Underperforming vets and the staff's unwillingness to make adjustments throughout the games/losing streaks is sinking this team. No one is held accountable for their play and poor decisions. Coach's just keep running the same players out -sometimes they tinker with lines during games but its always the same 9 and 4-5 that get the majority of ice. I understand giving most of the ice to top 3 lines and top 2 pairings but when a team is struggling you have to make adjustments and look for some new looks. That may include sending some messages to some of their underperforming vets.
It was talked about months ago that sometimes there is too much talent and experience on rosters. Everyone on this top 9 and top 4 expects to be the guy and very few of them are stepping up and seizing the opportunity to lead this team.
There is zero chemistry right now with all of this 'skill', The players don't appear to be having any fun and more often then not lately any success they are having can be attributed to 2-3 players and the goalies.
I hope these boys can find a spark and start playing to the potential many of us see.
I don't really think a deciding factor for going for it is the OA's, because there are only 3 per team it's usually the team with the best 19 year old crop that wins, mixed with some really good 18 year olds and obviously the OA's.
I think the OVS addition to the trade was a mistake but if you look at the 3 OA's as a whole I am not sure I can name many teams that have better. IMO it's the 05 group that is really letting us down right now. 12 is out, 86 has been underwhelming, 25 and 15 generally non existent. Need those 4 guys to be difference makers.
The thing is with how many guys are underperforming especially the 19 year olds that u may be able to get more back as OA’s than originally thought. I could see 15 and 25 back for starters along with potentially 86 who hasn’t had the year everyone thought he would have. There’s still as chance they go for it next year mainly because Hrebik is so good in net and u still have 29 21 77 and hopefully 28 as an import next year to build around.
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I think it was definitely a mistake currently everyone thought that NB line would click immediately but Marty’s defensive style is hard to adjust to going from an offensive style. This team right now tho is lost in so many ways getting out shot and out played every night and thank god for Hrebik he’s a stud in net. This team just doesn’t play with any flow and speed u would think they’d have with all the talent. 12’s absence has been huge he’s one of there top 2-3 players when healthy and I thought he was the number 1 D when he was in the lineup before the sickness. Having him in the D core instead of 16 23 will make a difference but probably not a big enough difference unless a bunch changes from now till playoff time. 86 has struggled recently u hope he can start to play better down the stretch they need him.
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marty's boring red-line dump defensive game plan is easy to shutdown and win against, almost every team in the league shows dominance any given night. bottom line this team is out-of-shape. conditioning, simple skills all down the drain. they are slower, passing game sub-par, getting outshot, cant win their battles. every player's performance is down = coaching. todays performance comes from the lack of accountability and training from past 5 months. they play like they practice.
you have three players that tallied 300+ last year - only thing that changed is they became a colt under Marty! none of them enjoy being there, its marty's dictatorship, literally dmp the puck or you dont play.
you have three players that tallied 300+ last year - only thing that changed is they became a colt under Marty! none of them enjoy being there, its marty's dictatorship, literally dmp the puck or you dont play.
the issue up front is we don't deploy lines currently that are working. For starters, I think it makes no sense to not have 53 and 29 together. They are the only two guys to skate and forecheck and play with pace. When you spread them out I get the idea is to add speed to 2 different lines but then it is just them on their own flying around with no support from anyone else. You have to let the NB line sink or swim at this point as well. Fact is team goes nowhere anyways if they continue to have a negative impact on games.
