Weekes: Barbashev drawing lots of interest: Expected return is 1st or 2nd + prospect

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[jjniner]

The guy has a phenomenal 200 foot game. Can play any position and will finish his checks as good as anyone. He is not real strong on the dot. Hearing the Blues would like to re-sign him but looking for a little too much for our liking. I think I would love a 1st for him, but would settle for two 2nd’s.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I'd easily do a 2nd and a prospect for Barbashev. Seems to fit the kind of deadline trades the Penguins have made in recent years with Rakell and Carter as well.

 

[Canucks LB]

A late first is fair, he is a very good player, complete

 

[jjniner]

Pitt… do you have any good young D prospects that may be a year away?

 

[orby]

Ty Smith + 2nd?

 

[kanucks25]

2nd and a mid prospect seems about right.

I don't know about the 1st, he's no Paul Gaustad.

 

[UnSandvich]

That’s rather a lot to give up for someone with 9 points in 50 career playoff games

 

[Empoleon8771]

Ty Smith + 2nd?

Absolutely not, way too much for Barbashev.

Think more like Belliveau and a 2nd than Smith and a 2nd.

 

[MadeUpName]

St. Louis ending up with three extra 1sts for Tarasenko, ROR and Barbashev would be a very nice haul. Especially in this Draft.

I like Barbashev as a UFA for Carolina next year but I hope they stay far away from those rental prices. I'd much rather have Henrique for 2 Playoffs.

 

[Eggtimer]

No clue where he ends up but plenty of teams will be making offers.
My random guess … Pitt or Vegas …or Flames or Leafs or… lol.

 

[Beauterham]

I don't expect a late 1st for Barbashev, but I also wouldn't be surprised looking at his contract and the rumored interest.

Would be insane though if we'd get a late '23 first for him and a return including a '23 first for O'Reilly. Next draft is going to be interesting in that case to say the least.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Pitt… do you have any good young D prospects that may be a year away?

Isaac Belliveau is probably the closest thing to a prospect that they have on defense that could be available for a rental trade. They won't do Pickering and Belliveau is the next best they have. Yes, I know that's an astronomical drop off

Belliveau is an interesting guy because he was looking like a much higher round pick before COVID, he had 53 points in 62 games as a 16/17 year old with Rimouski before COVID. But I think he's an example of a guy who had his development really screwed up by COVID.

 

[ViD]

Under different circumstance, he could’ve been very interesting for Columbus

 

[SEALBound]

Ideal target for the Penguins. 2nd+Hallander.

 

[Beauterham]

Absolutely not, way too much for Barbashev.

Think more like Belliveau and a 2nd than Smith and a 2nd.

How do you value Pickering?

If we do: Barbashev 50% retained + taking on either the Kapanen or Blueger contract straight up for Pickering? Is that close or is Pickering off the table?

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

id say every team would be lining up if its a 2nd and a prospect only

 

[bleedblue1223]

id say every team would be lining up if its a 2nd and a prospect only

And that's why these players sometimes go for a bit more. Everyone views a 2nd+prospect as a fair deal, so if a team really wants that player, they either offer up a better prospect or their late 1st.

 

[Empoleon8771]

How do you value Pickering?

If we do: Barbashev 50% retained + taking on either the Kapanen or Blueger contract straight up for Pickering? Is that close or is Pickering off the table?

Totally off the table for a rental. I’d expect Blueger to be in the deal, but Pickering is an absolute deal breaker.

I’d expect their offer to be something like Blueger, Belliveau and a 2023 2nd for Barbashev. That’s pretty similar to their trade last year of Aston-Reese, Clang and a 2022 2nd for Rakell. I imagine that could be beat by other teams, but the Penguins aren’t really in a position where I think they’d be willing to spend top assets on rentals.

 

[bearcountry17]

High price for a guy with 3 goals in 50 playoff games.

 

[PocketNines]

I am not sure what I like more, the content of Weekes' tweet or that it's Weekes himself saying this ... because it is exactly and precisely what we have been saying and hoping continually about Barbashev's value at this deadline given his contract and Blues' ability to retain/take back salary.

We have been comping him (Copping him?) to Andrew Copp who got two seconds last year, so our hopes have been:

1. One first instead of two seconds
2. A second and a specific prospect we like right now
3. Two seconds

Barbashev is a swiss army knife player who can slot in with a lot of duos up front. He kills penalties and while he's not your first PP option, he has real offensive skills that flow with a PP so you can have him as an option for your second unit. He also plays the exact type of playoff style you want. He is deadline candy. Please give us a first like Kevin says!

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

He's one of the guys I want the Leafs to get.

 

[tfriede2]

High price for a guy with 3 goals in 50 playoff games.

Understood, but he’s mostly been utilized as a physical pest in the playoffs that helps shut down lines instead of a point producer. Those types of players provide much more in the playoffs than what the stats say.

 

[PocketNines]

He's one of the guys I want the Leafs to get.

At Barbashev's reported seller's price I truly think the Leafs would be better off spending it on ROR, assuming the implications for extending are equal which we can't know yet.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

At Barbashev's reported seller's price I truly think the Leafs would be better off spending it on ROR, assuming the implications for extending are equal which we can't know yet.

ROR is my top target