Bally Sports rumored proposed streaming service

[Lt Dan]

They apparently do a lot of crack

Sinclair Aiming for $23/Month Streaming Plan for Bally Sports in 2022 | Cord Cutters News

Sinclair has been raising money for a new service, according to a report from the New York Post. Sources say Sinclair has been telling potential investors that “it aims to charge $23 a month to fans who want to stream games in markets where it owns sports broadcasting rights.”
As far as timing, Sinclair reportedly wants the service to launch before the 2022 baseball season. That aligns with Sinclair CEO Chris Ripley’s comments during a conference call last month when he said they “are in discussions with the leagues and the teams about enhancing some of those rights to make the product even better.” He continued to say, “that’s what’s going on right now and I don’t see that being a threat to timing. The plan is to launch in the first half of 2022.”

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[KopitarFAN]

This would be of use to almost no one, Lakers/Dodgers fans? nope, just get ESPN+ for the Kings games and you're set.
Note: Obviously you will have to find the other games somewhere, I just mean Bally Sports is no help.

Lakers/Angels fans? I guess, but mlb.tv + a VPN is so cheap, I'm not paying almost $300/year just for Bally sports.

Clippers/Angels: This is actually worth talking about, but you can get NBA League Pass for a single team for $120, mlb.tv for the same price and ESPN+ for $100/year (I assume the price will go up a little). This would be the instance where it is actually worth it.

Point is, their market is small, not very many fans of multiple teams that they carry.

 

[KINGS17]

I am not paying $23 per month to watch the Kings get their asses handed to themselves on a regular basis.

Bally is out of their minds. Try more like $5 per month.

All these entertainment execs seem to think people have unlimited money to spend on their streaming service and it is gold just waiting to be mined. The reality is streaming has created a more of a consumer-based ala carte service, which means I only pay for what I want to watch, and I don't pay stupid prices for it.

 

[KINGS17]

I mean what the hell, I picked up a subscription to Disney+ for my grandson (his favorite is Speed McQueen), but if Disney raised the price to $10 a month, it would be no more Speed McQueen, and I love my grandson.

 

[BigKing]

I am not paying $23 per month to watch the Kings get their asses handed to themselves on a regular basis.

Bally is out of their minds. Try more like $5 per month.

All these entertainment execs seem to think people have unlimited money to spend on their streaming service and it is gold just waiting to be mined. The reality is streaming has created a more of a consumer-based ala carte service, which means I only pay for what I want to watch, and I don't pay stupid prices for it.

The issue is that they can't agree to carriage deals with old-school delivery services and they seem to have the same problem with the cord-cutting streaming services. These companies aren't going to raise their prices on everyone to subsidize the sports stations but, unfortunately for Bally's and their ilk, they paid a ton of money for the rights and are now stuck.

I've been anti-cord cutting and this is just another example. This was all supposed to save the consumer money but, instead, you have to have subscriptions to 10 different services and the streaming TV providers always seem to have something missing.

Ask me in 2015 to imagine a world where FSW/Prime Ticket wasn't just included in a basic package and I'd say you were f***ing crazy. I'm watching the Lakers and Kings on Prime Ticket with basic cable in the 1980's and now I don't get it? Much like a lot that goes on with this world...Progress!!!

 

[Jason Squirties]

Hopefully they have the right staffs to implement it

 

[Telos]

I'd only consider it if it ignored blackout restrictions. I'm fine with paying a subscription for a high-quality product as long as I can use it. When I subscribe to NHL.com and I can only watch 40% of Kings games because of where I live then you're never seeing another cent and I am going to find a free stream... I shouldn't have to find a VPN to watch a CA hockey game because I live in NV.

 

[johnjm22]

Has anyone tried FuboTV? It's kind of expensive, but you get tons of sports including the NHL.

 

[BigKing]

Has anyone tried FuboTV? It's kind of expensive, but you get tons of sports including the NHL.

I did a free trial in 2019. It was cool but, again, I think it was missing a channel or two that either I needed or my wife needed. I also think they lost FSW/Prime or whatever at some point last season. They might have Bally's back now but not sure.

 

[tny760]

The issue is that they can't agree to carriage deals with old-school delivery services and they seem to have the same problem with the cord-cutting streaming services. These companies aren't going to raise their prices on everyone to subsidize the sports stations but, unfortunately for Bally's and their ilk, they paid a ton of money for the rights and are now stuck.

I've been anti-cord cutting and this is just another example. This was all supposed to save the consumer money but, instead, you have to have subscriptions to 10 different services and the streaming TV providers always seem to have something missing.

Ask me in 2015 to imagine a world where FSW/Prime Ticket wasn't just included in a basic package and I'd say you were f***ing crazy. I'm watching the Lakers and Kings on Prime Ticket with basic cable in the 1980's and now I don't get it? Much like a lot that goes on with this world...Progress!!!

cord cutting worked great before it became "a thing" and then all the big dogs caught on and jacked up the prices and now they're doing exactly what you said, condensing their product to their own service and sucking another $XX/mo for it. same problem as before with cable, a million channels where you only watch a couple, except now you're paying 10 different people for the privilege. i had a grand time when i was paying like $20/mo for psvue or youtubetv but then the sports providers realized they were leaving their cut on the table.

then the internet providers caught on and put limits on bandwidth... there's another $XX/mo

frustrating

 

[BigKing]

cord cutting worked great before it became "a thing" and then all the big dogs caught on and jacked up the prices and now they're doing exactly what you said, condensing their product to their own service and sucking another $XX/mo for it. same problem as before with cable, a million channels where you only watch a couple, except now you're paying 10 different people for the privilege. i had a grand time when i was paying like $20/mo for psvue or youtubetv but then the sports providers realized they were leaving their cut on the table.

then the internet providers caught on and put limits on bandwidth... there's another $XX/mo

frustrating

It's silly. Like, I need Red Zone channel during the NFL season but not every streaming provider has it and the ones that do might not carry Bally's so then I'm screwed there. If I was a single dude and younger then maybe I'd dick around with VPN stuff and whatnot but I have a wife that just needs to be able to turn the TV on and go, plus I'm 40 f***ing years old so just give me my local sports team without having to go through some bullshit.

Granted, not having easy access to the Kings the last two seasons has been a blessing in disguise but that changes next season as there will be prospects worth watching.

 

[Lt Dan]

I did a free trial in 2019. It was cool but, again, I think it was missing a channel or two that either I needed or my wife needed. I also think they lost FSW/Prime or whatever at some point last season. They might have Bally's back now but not sure.

they indeed lost it. AT&T is the only streaming service that has it

 

[Lt Dan]

cord cutting worked great before it became "a thing" and then all the big dogs caught on and jacked up the prices and now they're doing exactly what you said, condensing their product to their own service and sucking another $XX/mo for it. same problem as before with cable, a million channels where you only watch a couple, except now you're paying 10 different people for the privilege. i had a grand time when i was paying like $20/mo for psvue or youtubetv but then the sports providers realized they were leaving their cut on the table.

then the internet providers caught on and put limits on bandwidth... there's another $XX/mo

frustrating

True, but it is also now a la carte.

You can pay for whatever you want or don't want. I am still saving about $60 a month since dumping cable.

My savings were much higher when Sling still had FSW, AT&T has eaten quite a bit of that

 

[DoktorJeep]

I’ll easily pay $23/mo to watch Kings games.

 

[KINGS17]

The issue is that they can't agree to carriage deals with old-school delivery services and they seem to have the same problem with the cord-cutting streaming services. These companies aren't going to raise their prices on everyone to subsidize the sports stations but, unfortunately for Bally's and their ilk, they paid a ton of money for the rights and are now stuck.

I've been anti-cord cutting and this is just another example. This was all supposed to save the consumer money but, instead, you have to have subscriptions to 10 different services and the streaming TV providers always seem to have something missing.

Ask me in 2015 to imagine a world where FSW/Prime Ticket wasn't just included in a basic package and I'd say you were f***ing crazy. I'm watching the Lakers and Kings on Prime Ticket with basic cable in the 1980's and now I don't get it? Much like a lot that goes on with this world...Progress!!!

Bally chose poorly. Maybe these individual team broadcasts just are not worth the money outfits like Bally are paying for them.

Every professional athlete and sports franchise seems to think people just can't do without them, and I think they are going to find out they are wrong. There will be plenty of Kings games on ESPN, etc. for me to watch. I understand some people get withdrawal symptoms if they can't watch every game live, then review it again on their DVR, but the average fan isn't going to pay a premium for it.

I cut my DISH cord, and am very pleased with that decision. 95% of what I want to watch is on fuboTV or on YouTube TV. I pay for both of those and the bill is still $100 less a month than it was with DISH. Plus, shhhh don't tell anyone, but my family members and I share our subscriptions and passwords to the streaming services like Disney, Hulu, HBO, etc.

I think the TV rights gravy train may be slowing down a bit for sports leagues.

 

[DryIslandBartender]

23 dollars? Ha!

Price of everything is going up, inflation is real.

 

[tny760]

True, but it is also now a la carte.

You can pay for whatever you want or don't want. I am still saving about $60 a month since dumping cable.

My savings were much higher when Sling still had FSW, AT&T has eaten quite a bit of that

i just get tired of chasing it.. like when 10 providers suddenly make their $10 product into a $15 product you have to do the dance where you figure out exactly which providers dropped exactly which service and which ones you want and are willing to drop.. i dunno man i just "legally" stream everything now

guess i should just stop complaining and upgrade my internet

 

[Lt Dan]

i just get tired of chasing it.. like when 10 providers suddenly make their $10 product into a $15 product you have to do the dance where you figure out exactly which providers dropped exactly which service and which ones you want and are willing to drop.. i dunno man i just "legally" stream everything now

guess i should just stop complaining and upgrade my internet

I do have a great tool for that. It does all the work

Suppose... you could design your perfect TV service

You put in the channels that you want and it tells you which services carry them

 

[BigKing]

Bally chose poorly. Maybe these individual team broadcasts just are not worth the money outfits like Bally are paying for them.

Every professional athlete and sports franchise seems to think people just can't do without them, and I think they are going to find out they are wrong. There will be plenty of Kings games on ESPN, etc. for me to watch. I understand some people get withdrawal symptoms if they can't watch every game live, then review it again on their DVR, but the average fan isn't going to pay a premium for it.

I cut my DISH cord, and am very pleased with that decision. 95% of what I want to watch is on fuboTV or on YouTube TV. I pay for both of those and the bill is still $100 less a month than it was with DISH. Plus, shhhh don't tell anyone, but my family members and I share our subscriptions and passwords to the streaming services like Disney, Hulu, HBO, etc.

I think the TV rights gravy train may be slowing down a bit for sports leagues.

Not for the national carriers but the RSN train has mostly derailed. Traditional providers are losing subs like crazy so they have to try and retain a base as much as possible which means not jacking up the prices. What helps keep the costs mostly static is not making the basic subscription a tool to subsidize the RSN contracts that the majority of normal subs don't care about. They already have to pay for ESPN and maybe FSN but the RSN has become a bridge too far, at least from DISH's perspective. Going on two years now without FSW/Bally's. HBO looks like it will never return and I get it: if HBO is going to offer the same thing directly at the same price the carrier is going to, then why should the carrier enter into a contract with them?

That's where we are at with the RSN's now. They obviously have a price point that they need to break even/profit and a lot of the carriers aren't going to pony up for it. Thing is, I'd be totally okay if I had to pay an extra $15 a month on my DISH bill if I wanted my local RSN but the RSNs simply refuse to allow their channels to be part of an add-on package: it has to be part of the basic sub. So this is the logical next step: they cut out the carrier and provide the channel themselves but at some stupid price knowing that, like DoktorJeep said above, people will pay for it.

I currently use my parent's DTV log-in to watch on the app but the Bally's app changed right at the end of the season to where you can't start a game from the beginning while it is still happening. The interface always sucked and still does. I'm already in trouble for next season and I won't even have the opportunity to pay them $23 for the app since it won't be available yet. It's frustrating because DISH's Hopper is just a fantastic DVR/Box and their app is great for watching on the go as well. I never imagined that the RSN would be gone for this long and, at this point, I don't think the Bally's networks are ever coming back. Wild times.

 

[KINGS17]

Has anyone tried FuboTV? It's kind of expensive, but you get tons of sports including the NHL.

I have it and like it. It also has the Pac-12 Network, which I enjoy watching.

 

[johnjm22]

I have it and like it. It also has the Pac-12 Network, which I enjoy watching.

Are you able to watch all the Kings games on it?

 

[KINGS17]

Are you able to watch all the Kings games on it?

No, you can't watch the Kings games anywhere but Bally on AT&T as far as I know.

You do get the NHL Network and all of the other channels carrying playoff games.

Once DISH no longer carried the Kings games, that was it for me with the satellite and cable providers. They make you pay a fortune for several hundred channels, then lose the channels you really want to watch, but never lower their price. Buh-bye!

 

[Herby]

It's crazy how in 2021 it's easier and cheaper to be an out of market fan than in-market fan. Starting next season it'll be ESPN+ and MLB.tv. One time $125 for MLB and $15 a month for the ESPN+/Disney bundle and I'll be good to go.

 

[Sol]

For 3 years of NordVPN under a 100 bucks you can stream anything with minimal googling abilities

 

[kingsholygrail]

Won't be long before cable will actually be the cheaper option once you add up all your "plus" streams.