Proposal: AZ & The Caps: Chych Goes 2 DC

[rt]

As always, feel free to flame me

To WSH:
Jakob Chychrun

To ARI:
Lars Eller
Martin Fehervary
Connor McMichael
2025 WSH 2nd Rounder

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[EK392000]

That gets beat

 

[Edison]

I think all other teams would match that offer easily

 

[trick9]

Pass from the Capitals.

I wouldn’t move McMichael and Fehervary both in a deal because of our cap situation.

 

[Drake1588]

As always, feel free to flame me

To WSH:
Jakob Chychrun

To ARI:
Lars Eller
Martin Fehervary
Connor McMichael
2025 WSH 2nd Rounder

I feel confident that the Caps would not have the slightest interest in any of that.

 

[BringTheReign]

I think AZ could get the 1st rounder instead of the 2nd if WSH were truly interested. McMichael is a great prospect, but WSH’s pick will likely be late.

 

[Boxscore]

Yotes don't accept that, especially after drafting Cooley and Geekie this year. Perhaps...

TO WSH:
- Chychrun

TO ARI:
- Chesley
- Alexeyev
- 2023 1st (lottery protected)

 

[pman25]

I think all other teams would match that offer easily

i don't know they would. Fehervary and McMichael are both NHLers now. You can consider them graduated but still on ELCs. They can easily slot in top 6/top 4 in that arizona lineup. Eller only has one year left so Arizona doesn't have to take any long term cap back that other teams may try to dump on AZ.

Not sure about the pick (1st/2nd), seems like a fair deal. But I would prefer to part with Lapierre and upgrade to a 2023 1st, so Caps could run Kuznetsov/Strome/McMichael this year

 

[Dr John Carlson]

Yotes don't accept that, especially after drafting Cooley and Geekie this year. Perhaps...

TO WSH:
- Chychrun

TO ARI:
- Chesley
- Alexeyev
- 2023 1st (lottery protected)

That's a much worse package than OP's.

 

[Drake1588]

Where does this idea come from that the Caps are in the market for a top-pairing blueliner, anyway? There's no indication this is the case. They really like Fehervary, who is young and already a solid partner for Carlson. He's as unlikely to be traded as any player, I'd suspect. Young, cheap, bright future.

That's before getting to McMichael, who has a long future as the team's No. 3 or No. 2 center ahead of him. There was some thought that he might be available to fix their immediate center dilemma if they went shopping for JT Miller, but the price kept rising (or never came down) and they pivoted to Strome.

On defense, they likely have a need for a depth guy, maybe a No. 5-6, possibly a No. 4, though they would need to trade someone to do it. I'd think another veteran in free agency making <$2M is more their speed.

The Caps' days of spending all their futures for immediate help are past. They're balancing between competing and gathering players for the future now. Adding three years of Chychrun just means he leaves at the same time as Ovechkin and Backstrom and Oshie and the rest of the legacy core.

 

[HeyMattyB]

Yotes don't accept that, especially after drafting Cooley and Geekie this year. Perhaps...

TO WSH:
- Chychrun

TO ARI:
- Chesley
- Alexeyev
- 2023 1st (lottery protected)

SOLD! No takebacks. (And yes, that's definitely a worse package than the OP)

 

[rt]

SOLD! No takebacks. (And yes, that's definitely a worse package than the OP)

The bid is disqualified because it didn’t come from a Yotes fan. Now please weigh on the OP with a vote and a comment.

 

[Drake1588]

A better fit for the Coyotes here would be Edmonton, which is right at the crest of its contention curve and (IMO) badly needs help on defense. Maybe a deal centered around a first rounder and Broberg?

 

[rt]

Where does this idea come from that the Caps are in the market for a top-pairing blueliner, anyway? There's no indication this is the case. They really like Fehervary, who is young and already a solid partner for Carlson. He's as unlikely to be traded as any player, I'd suspect. Young, cheap, bright future.

That's before getting to McMichael, who has a long future as the team's No. 3 or No. 2 center ahead of him. There was some thought that he might be available to fix their immediate center dilemma if they went shopping for JT Miller, but the price kept rising (or never came down) and they pivoted to Strome.

On defense, they likely have a need for a depth guy, maybe a No. 5-6, possibly a No. 4, though they would need to trade someone to do it. I'd think another veteran in free agency making <$2M is more their speed.

The Caps' days of spending all their futures for immediate help are past. They're balancing between competing and gathering players for the future now. Adding three years of Chychrun just means he leaves at the same time as Ovechkin and Backstrom and Oshie and the rest of the legacy core.

I guess my first, and most self evident response to this A) I got the idea from the Caps subforum and B) Chychrun is also really young. I think he’s something like 18mo older than Fehervary, as an example.

A better fit for the Coyotes here would be Edmonton, which is right at the crest of its contention curve and (IMO) badly needs help on defense. Maybe a deal centered around a first rounder and Broberg?

Broberg and a 1st would work for me if they chucked in Puljujarvi. I like McMichael better than Broberg and Fehervary better than Puljujarvi though.

 

[Drake1588]

Broberg and a 1st would work for me if they chucked in Puljujarvi. I like McMichael better than Broberg and Fehervary better than Puljujarvi though.

No doubt, and I agree. Yet I don't think the Caps are fishing for a player of this caliber on defense, and wouldn't be looking to denude itself of its best futures like this.

As for a Caps' fan origin of this sort of discussion, that doesn't confer any additional legitimacy. Fans like good players and it's often no more complicated than that... Chychrun is a very good player, but the sort of team willing to give up the sort of young assets coveted by Arizona is likely to look more like an Edmonton or Toronto - younger, hungrier, and Cupless this generation versus the Caps, who are aging and won their title with this group.

They are at the tail end of their contention curve and are already looking to the future with their recent moves. Their efforts to hold on for one last hurrah are only taking place in free agency, and not much term outside of Kuemper. They will deal thirds and even seconds but they are holding on to their first rounders now, and their better prospects.

 

[StephenPeat]

Pass from the Capitals.

I wouldn’t move McMichael and Fehervary both in a deal because of our cap situation.

Same. The deal favors the Caps but it’s not one they should make. The Future Is becoming Now for the Capitals, time to actually get younger and let the accumulated youth play and mature.

No doubt, and I agree. Yet I don't think the Caps are fishing for a player of this caliber on defense, and wouldn't be looking to denude itself of its best futures like this.

As for a Caps' fan origin of this sort of discussion, that doesn't confer any additional legitimacy. Fans like good players and it's often no more complicated than that... Chychrun is a very good player, but the sort of team willing to give up the sort of young assets coveted by Arizona is likely to look more like an Edmonton or Toronto - younger, hungrier, and Cupless this generation versus the Caps, who are aging and won their title with this group.

They are at the tail end of their contention curve and are already looking to the future with their recent moves. Their efforts to hold on for one last hurrah are only taking place in free agency, and not much term outside of Kuemper. They will deal thirds and even seconds but they are holding on to their first rounders now, and their better prospects.

Agree wholly. The organization appears aware that the focus need to be on transitioning to the future.

 

[gotothedirtyareas]

Can't give away both McMichael & Ferehvary. A top six and a top four (maybe top 2) who are young.
I'd give up Carlson for Chycchurn.

 

[rt]

Can't give away both McMichael & Ferehvary. A top six and a top four (maybe top 2) who are young.
I'd give up Carlson for Chycchurn.

Carlson? Haha. C’mon man.

 

[IranCondraAffair]

If that's all that was required a deal would be done.

IDK why every time Chychurn comes up Arizona asks for Ottawa's eyeteeth if that's all you want from Washington.

 

[rt]

If that's all that was required a deal would be done.

IDK why every time Chychurn comes up Arizona asks for Ottawa's eyeteeth if that's all you want from Washington.

Greig = McMichael
Brannstrom <<< Fehervary
OTT '23 1st >>> WSH '25 2nd
Zaitsev dump < Eller Dump

 

[Dr Quincy]

As always, feel free to flame me

To WSH:
Jakob Chychrun

To ARI:
Lars Eller
Martin Fehervary
Connor McMichael
2025 WSH 2nd Rounder

I think the value is fine for WAS but then they are pretty depleted at C I would think (but I'll let Caps fans speak up)

 

[zar]

As always, feel free to flame me

To WSH:
Jakob Chychrun

To ARI:
Lars Eller
Martin Fehervary
Connor McMichael
2025 WSH 2nd Rounder

You're a Zona fan?

 

[PainForShane]

You're a Zona fan?

there are dozens of us

 

[Hivemind]

Yotes don't accept that, especially after drafting Cooley and Geekie this year. Perhaps...

TO WSH:
- Chychrun

TO ARI:
- Chesley
- Alexeyev
- 2023 1st (lottery protected)

This offer has so much less value than the OP's for Arizona, I would take this and run as a Capitals fan. We get Chychrun while managing to keep both our best forward prospect AND our rookie defenseman? And instead we only have to give up a 2nd round pick D and a D that can't stay healthy? Hell yes.

 

[Hivemind]

Agree wholly. The organization appears aware that the focus need to be on transitioning to the future.

They really like Fehervary, who is young and already a solid partner for Carlson. He's as unlikely to be traded as any player, I'd suspect. Young, cheap, bright future.

Yall acting like Chyrchrun is some crusty old vet. He's 24, only 18 months older than Fehervary. He's signed to a very affordable deal with term remaining. As promising as Fehervary is, Chychrun is already the player that Caps fans hope Fehervary will eventually become. And Chyrchrun has potential for more still.