Confirmed with Link: Avs trade de Haan, Parsinnen, a 2nd and a 4th to NYR for Lindgren (50% retained), Vesey, prospect Hank Kempf

[lionsDen]

The biggest thing out of this whole trade… I wanted guys with a bit of term.

 

[a mangy Meowth]

Sometimes when you can waste a 2nd/3rd/4th rounder on marginal improvements for the lowest yield and lowest leverage position on the team, while ignoring huge holes at C and RD, you kind of have to go for it.

You're welcome to feel shitty about it. The market sucks for buyers right now.

 

[missionAvs]

13th forward, most likely.

Maybe a Wood replacement on the 4th line if we dump Miles somewhere.

Please make it happen.

 

[Valushkin]

In Lingren’s defense, the way Rangers have played 2nd half of the season, even Fox and Shesterkin looked bad. A guy like Zibanejad also forgot how to play hockey. Let’s see how Lingren looks on our 3rd pair before judging him

 

[nammerus]

You're welcome to feel shitty about it. The market sucks for buyers right now.

If you’re gonna overpay/waste assets, do it for something that actually makes a difference. The market being terrible is an absolutely garbage excuse.

You know what helps with defensive depth? Upgrading on Manson and pushing him down to the bottom pair.

 

[a mangy Meowth]

In Lingren’s defense, the way Rangers have played 2nd half of the season, even Fox and Shesterkin looked bad. A guy like Zibanejad also forgot how to play hockey. Let’s see how Lingren looks on our 3rd pair before judging him

Yeah I was gonna say, who on the rangers hasn't looked mostly like shit the last 2 years?

 

[hockeyfish]

Please make it happen.

I'd much rather have wood.

 

[CobraAcesS]

I agree. I know nothing about Lindgren. Can’t say I’ve seen any minutes of his game. I think this entire board is in agreement that this doesn’t accomplish really anything. Reminds us of the Eller trade.
But we need to see how he plays and if other moves are made to see if our initial assessments are on point, or way off.

6 days to go, and we're better than we were yesterday.

I guess I'll leave it there for now.

 

[a mangy Meowth]

If you’re gonna overpay/waste assets, do it for something that actually makes a difference. The market being terrible is an absolutely garbage excuse.

You know what helps with defensive depth? Upgrading on Manson and pushing him down to the bottom pair.

What I'm saying is I don't think it's an overpay really. I think this is indicative of the scarcity of exactly the level of player you're looking for.

 

[Arto Kilponen]

I don't know how people can get so wound up so quickly by a trade. The emotional hot takes in the immediate aftermath are rarely accurate. I'll reserve judgement until I see what else is to come and how the new players perform. My immediate thoughts were I don't really get it and the price seemed high, but I'll happily wait to see if Lindgren can do better with a lesser role against worse competition on our bottom pairing.

While I get what you are saying, cutting some corners, Lindgren has to be three levels better.
The first level is that he has to be better than he has been this season. I think most of people can see this as somewhat realistic.
The second level is that he has to be better than de Haan. I think even more people agrees on on this than on the previous point.
The third level is that he has to be so much better than de Haan that it justifies using a second round draft pick on him. I have a strong feeling that this is the part that a lot of people don't believe in.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

Do we call him Greasy Vesey?

Releasey Vesey

 

[missionAvs]

I'd much rather have wood.

I'd rather not have either of them but yet here we are.... with both of them.

 

[EdAVSfan]

6 days to go, and we're better than we were yesterday.

I guess I'll leave it there for now.

Agreed. If March 7th rolls and this is our only move, it’s clearly a bad move. Even if Lindgren plays amazing, it’s still a bad move if done alone.
It’s not a difference maker by itself towards a cup.
So we’re going to have to hope for additional moves that have needle moving potential.

 

[HartKinnon]

So he's magically gotten better in a week?

What are you talking about?

During 2025 he has played 23 games with 0+13 and +4.

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[forsbergavs32]

I'd much rather have wood.

I already do

 

[nammerus]

What I'm saying is I don't think it's an overpay really. I think this is indicative of the scarcity of exactly the level of player you're looking for.

So just a waste of assets. I guess that makes it better.

 

[a mangy Meowth]

So just a waste of assets. I guess that makes it better.

I think it remains to be seen if it's a waste. You'll probably be right. I guess I'm just glad they're trying SOMETHING

 

[Snow Arc]

Pitt will have to retain more for Sid, I guess

 

[CobraAcesS]

I think it remains to be seen if it's a waste. You'll probably be right. I guess I'm just glad they're trying SOMETHING

Well, it will help Toews and Makar not to have to play 28 and 29 minutes like last night. Woof

 

[a mangy Meowth]

Well, it will help Toews and Makar not to have to play 28 and 29 minutes like last night. Woof

It will also help de Haan play 0 minutes per game, which can't be repeated enough

 

[Arto Kilponen]

I think it remains to be seen if it's a waste. You'll probably be right. I guess I'm just glad they're trying SOMETHING

The problem here is that Avalanche is not right now a team that really has to try something on the level of "for god sake, make some trades!". The team is not necessarily so far looking like a Stanley Cup favorite and honestly, I 100 % feel no-one feels that this trade dramatically improved that.

So there's really no need to trade just to trade.

 

[CobraAcesS]

It will also help de Haan play 0 minutes per game, which can't be repeated enough

I wonder if they'll run Girard on the right with Lindgren until Manson returns.

DeHann played 13:43 last night.

 

[TheForsbergShow]

So just a waste of assets. I guess that makes it better.

How about for once you tell us all these deals you'd like to see? Give us details with the picks and retention involved. You are very good at complaining about what we need, but have not once given an actual move you'd make. Id love to see what the all knowing nammerus has up his sleeve.

 

[a mangy Meowth]

The problem here is that Avalanche is not right now a team that really has to try something on the level of "for god sake, make some trades!". The team is not necessarily so far looking like a Stanley Cup favorite and honestly, I 100 % feel no-one feels that this trade dramatically improved that.

So there's really no need to trade just to trade.

100000000% disagree. Every year of MacKinnon and Makar primes at this point that we don't all in, we're buffoons. Pro scouts determined this was a trade to make. I will give benefit of the doubt as I have in the last number of years. They've earned it

 

[Arto Kilponen]

100000000% disagree. Every year of MacKinnon and Makar primes at this point that we don't all in, we're buffoons. Pro scouts determined this was a trade to make. I will give benefit of the doubt as I have in the last number of years. They've earned it

And acquiring Ryan Lindgren is the "all in"-trade you feel is worth taking? The moment he wins Conn Smythe Trophy for Avalanche, I'll buy a season ticket for you for the next season.