Confirmed with Link: Avs trade de Haan, Parsinnen, a 2nd and a 4th to NYR for Lindgren (50% retained), Vesey, prospect Hank Kempf

[Bender]

This is an utterly atrocious deal. Good lord, CMac. You literally are getting this level of play from De Haan/Kylington and you give up a 2nd, 4th and Parssinen who you gave up a 3rd for earlier to get a god awful defenseman.

Horrible, horrible start to the TDL. Pro scouts with a gigantic whiff. We don't need to see Lindgren play - he's atrocious.

Careful here. This is like @Ararana's post on the main board after we traded Fourgiev for Blackwood - that it was only a latteral move.

The lesson is - wait until he plays for the team and see before declaring it complete garbage.

Kakko 19pts in 27gp for Seattle
Chytil 5pts in 8gp for vancouver

I don't care what he looked like with that team up until this point but if we acquired a guy who's a #4 / #5 at $2.25M for the playoffs for what we gave up, I don't think the price is that outrageous.

Hypothetical... did CMac acquire Lindgren so he can trade Girard as part of a deal for Jones?

Toews/Makar
Lindgren/Jones
Kylington/Manson

That's a lot beefier D corp for playoff style hockey.

I hadn't thought about it that way. I was thinking that Chicago was insisting on Manson being part of the trade so they could flip him at the TDL or next year's TDL.

So then the Avs went out and acquired a player who plays a similar style of game to replace what he brings and is still only 27.

Toews/Makar
Girard/Jones
Lindgren/Malinski

 

[bleuetbio]

Damm I thought Lingren was RD.... Im not sure what we did here. We have to trust management

 

[Arto Kilponen]

Alright I'm sold. Worth a 2nd.

If we compare to the rest of this trade, this Kempf <-> 2nd is the part of it that makes even remotely sense.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[SirLoinOfCloth]

I don't know how people can get so wound up so quickly by a trade. The emotional hot takes in the immediate aftermath are rarely accurate. I'll reserve judgement until I see what else is to come and how the new players perform. My immediate thoughts were I don't really get it and the price seemed high, but I'll happily wait to see if Lindgren can do better with a lesser role against worse competition on our bottom pairing.

 

[Balthazar]

The lesson is - wait until he plays for the team and see before declaring it complete garbage.

That's like spending rent money on lottery tickets and saying you have to wait for the drawing to determine if it was a bad decision.

 

[Pokecheque]

Certainly not. He sucks.

Yeah I edited that later. Either way I’m not a fan but I guess as far as 13th forwards go, it doesn’t matter a ton.

 

[dahrougem2]

Careful here. This is like @Ararana's post on the main board after we traded Fourgiev for Blackwood - that it was only a latteral move.

The lesson is - wait until he plays for the team and see before declaring it complete garbage.

Kakko 19pts in 27gp for Seattle
Chytil 5pts in 8gp for vancouver

I don't care what he looked like with that team up until this point but if we acquired a guy who's a #4 / #5 at $2.25M for the playoffs for what we gave up, I don't think the price is that outrageous.


I hadn't thought about it that way. I was thinking that Chicago was insisting on Manson being part of the trade so they could flip him at the TDL or next year's TDL.

So then the Avs went out and acquired a player who plays a similar style of game to replace what he brings and is still only 27.

Toews/Makar
Girard/Jones
Lindgren/Malinski

Blackwood showed in SJ he was regaining his form.

Lindgren for a few years now has been a disaster. This is not a good move.

 

[NorthernAvsFan]

One thing I’ll say as an aside to this trade is that prime Nathan MacKinnon deserves an all-in trade deadline from management.

f*** the 26 1st, f*** the 25 2nd, f*** all the prospects. Trade whatever it takes to add a sure impact player at the deadline.

The franchise is blind if they feel protecting the future should be a priority right now. This may be the last year he’s at this level.

 

[nammerus]

Careful here. This is like @Ararana's post on the main board after we traded Fourgiev for Blackwood - that it was only a latteral move.

The lesson is - wait until he plays for the team and see before declaring it complete garbage.

Kakko 19pts in 27gp for Seattle
Chytil 5pts in 8gp for vancouver

I don't care what he looked like with that team up until this point but if we acquired a guy who's a #4 / #5 at $2.25M for the playoffs for what we gave up, I don't think the price is that outrageous.


I hadn't thought about it that way. I was thinking that Chicago was insisting on Manson being part of the trade so they could flip him at the TDL or next year's TDL.

So then the Avs went out and acquired a player who plays a similar style of game to replace what he brings and is still only 27.

Toews/Makar
Girard/Jones
Lindgren/Malinski

Man, luckily luminaries likes Ryjo/Georgiev, who were garbage before they were acquired, showed their true colours playing in the players paradise known as the Avs, and were just world beaters. I’m sure you still take pleasure in laughing at the Preds and Rangers fans that warned us about these hidden jewels.

 

[twostroke2023]

My initial reaction was what the f***. After taking a few minutes to process it, my reaction now is what the f***ing f***.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

Wow. Ryan Lindgren is a guy i would have loved in his prime..

 

[a mangy Meowth]

Holy smokes we got rid of De Haan

 

[nammerus]

Wow. Ryan Lindgren is a guy i would have loved in his prime..

Cmac probably was looking to mimic his Ryjo trade, but on the defensive side. I’m sure he still thinks that was a banger of a trade.

 

[Muffin]

I don’t like the price but at least the team got better even if it’s marginally.

 

[arun]

It's a lot to give up but I like Lindgren on our bottom D pairing. Vesey is just fine as a depth F I guess.

But it's a lot going back to NY, with a 2nd and 4th, AND parsnip (so Pavel and a 3rd round pick) and CDH (negative value?).

 

[CobraAcesS]

That's like spending rent money on lottery tickets and saying you have to wait for the drawing to determine if it was a bad decision.

I think we were all hoping for a trade that made the defense significantly better, not just the bottom pair LD spot. Especially since they're unlikely to improve on Mitts.

This isn't enough of an improvement.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

6 points this season and one of the worst skaters in the NHL.

Right on, right on... looking good.

 

[Andrew Wiggin]

Who gives a shit if picks are overrated. They are tools to improve the team. This doesn’t do shit. Lindgren has been absolute garbage for over a year. You’re the same mope who probably thought the Eller’s trade was top notch.

Cant argue with you this time the trade must be bad as you never miss a chance to take a dump on the avs when they are not looking as good.

 

[a mangy Meowth]

6 points this season and one of the worst skaters in the NHL.

Right on, right on... looking good.

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AHL (I hope)

 

[nammerus]

I don’t like the price but at least the team got better even if it’s marginally.

Why actually try and improve the team, when you can just make trades that don’t actually move the needle, but make it look like you’re an aggressive GM! By that metric, CMac is an actual god.

 

[EdAVSfan]

I think we were all hoping for a trade that made the defense significantly better, not just the bottom pair LD spot. Especially since they're unlikely to improve on Mitts.

This isn't enough of an improvement.

I wouldn’t rule out a trade for a RD as well.

It’s entirely possible Manson is missing significant time and they want a physical presence to replace him.
It’s also possible he’s LTIR and the Avs are looking to solidify their entire top 6 D.

 

[hockeyfish]

Wow. Ryan Lindgren is a guy i would have loved in his prime..

The dude is like 2 years younger than Mack.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

AHL (I hope)

13th forward, most likely.

Maybe a Wood replacement on the 4th line if we dump Miles somewhere.

 

[EdAVSfan]

6 points this season and one of the worst skaters in the NHL.

Right on, right on... looking good.

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I think Vesey is literally just a contract to move out to make the bodies in/out even.