Confirmed with Link: Avs trade de Haan, Parsinnen, a 2nd and a 4th to NYR for Lindgren (50% retained), Vesey, prospect Hank Kempf

[Avs2022]

I felt Parssinen was decent when he was in the line up. I liked his game. Too bad Bednar hated him and sat him recently.

 

[Avs44]

Of course it is.

Brutal trade.

Good news to put a smile on your face: we're giving them the better of the 4ths, too!

 

[hockeyfish]

What a god awful trade. This is one of the trades you make if your team is a wagon and need a little bit more to put them over the top.

Think the worst part of this trade is it signals there isn't any other bigger trade coming for a #2C or an upgrade on the backend like Jones. I could be wrong, but I don't have much faith in something bigger happening if this is what CMac was working on.

I don't think it really signals anything.

 

[Avsfan1921]

look at every rangers fan posts about lindgren and you’ll understand how bad he is

This is not a good barometer to judge a player lol. Fans love to kick them on the way out.

 

[BobRossColton]

Can Lindgren play right side till Manson is back? Or is he going straight to Malinski

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

He's not, it's actaully Hank Kempf

You're right. I took it from LeBrun and TSN, who both reported it as Kampf.

 

[forsbergavs32]

Doesn’t seem great. I don’t understand why Bednar hated Parssinen so much (which I’m guessing is why he got moved).

Gotta hope Lindgren just needs a change of scenery. Also wondering if Wood is moving in another deal because the bottom 6 is pretty full.

 

[Ceremony]

This is not a good barometer to judge a player lol. Fans love to kick them on the way out.

The last time we said this we ended up with Fourgiev.

 

[NOTENOUGHRYJOTHINGS]

The third they gave up for Parsinnen is a sunk cost. They can't get a refund from Nashville. Was it bad to toss a third into the trash can? Yes.

But CDH and Parsinnen are waivers level.

This is a second and fourth to upgrade at two positions.

Lindgren is a marginal nhler. CDH is a marginal ahler.

Vesey is a solid fourth line winger. Parsinnen would be a solid depth option for an AHL team.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

For everyone using the JFresh card to declare this a complete loss... Guess we'd be singing the same tune if it was Brock Faber we just traded for?





The Rangers are a horrible team and everyone on that team has been ass this year. Lets give the kid a single game first before we all collectively jump off a cliff.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[DrunkTurtle]

So what now?

Blow rest of the picks on another depth player or is this the big play.

 

[hockeyfish]

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For everyone using the JFresh card to declare this a complete loss... Guess we'd be singing the same tune if it was Brock Faber we just traded for?





The Rangers are a horrible team and everyone on that team has been ass this year. Lets give the kid a single game first before we all collectively jump off a cliff.

I think those cards just use random numbers. Like, how do you get 0% for Lindgrin at 5x5 when he as a 50% HDCF%?

 

[Avs44]

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For everyone using the JFresh card to declare this a complete loss... Guess we'd be singing the same tune if it was Brock Faber we just traded for?





The Rangers are a horrible team and everyone on that team has been ass this year. Lets give the kid a single game first before we all collectively jump off a cliff.

Too late; I already went for it

 

[NikB]

Just remember the reactions to JMFJ when we got him, and how bad he looked for the Pens (Who are STILL paying him next year) and Jackets, while being a passable 3rd pairing D here. I’d expect him to look quite a bit better when away from the stench of this year’s awful Rangers team. The most important thing for the Avs and Bednar’s system is that he is still a good skater, miles ahead of CdH.

 

[BrickNHL]

So what now?

Blow rest of the picks on another depth player or is this the big play.

That’s what pissed me off the most. Value aside, this is the big move

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Too late; I already went for it

That's not a cliff! That's a hole in a field.

 

[Arto Kilponen]

I'm really, really counting Hank Kempf being in Norris contention within two years. That way this trade would make some sense.

 

[DrunkTurtle]

The Rangers are a horrible team and everyone on that team has been ass this year. Lets give the kid a single game first before we all collectively jump off a cliff.

But what if I wanna jump off a cliff everytime I get here?

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

To me this deal tells me a few things a far as the strategy :

- always thought they'd try to acquire a RD to push Manson down. With this move, I think thats changed. I could see the Avs moving Manson now with the addition of Lindgren.
- I think they'd probably want to keep Malinski now

So no, for me it doesn't end the chance of landing Jones, it would just mean that the Avs might have Lindgren-Malinski on the bottom pair instead of other trade + Manson.


I think a lot of people said and posted stuff like this right when Kakko was traded too.

He's been a lot better since he got to Seattle. A lot of those Rangers seemingly need a change of scenery. Kakko has 19pts in 27gp with the kraken.

Retaining 50% helps.

 

[CobraAcesS]

That’s what pissed me off the most. Value aside, this is the big move

It's going to grind my f***in gears when Cmac calls Lindgren a top 4D.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

Let’s break this down…

Getting:

Lindgren - A bottom pairing defenseman who has been getting caved in and fallen off a cliff for the past 2-3 years.

Vesey - Useless, journeyman plug for the 4th line or a healthy scratch.

Kempf - A 22 year old, 7th round pick. Zero value.

Giving:

Parssinen - Gave up a 3rd round pick for him 2.5 months ago.

2nd round pick - Whichever is the higher of the two 2nds.

4th round pick - Whichever is the higher of the two 4ths.

This is brutal.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Avs still have over $3M in cap space. If they want to make another move, they have plenty of room to work with.


They also still have a 2025 2nd, 2026 1st, still have all the top prospects. Still have the Colton/Mitts chips...


They dont have to be done because of this move.

 

[LOFIN]

Just remember the reactions to JMFJ when we got him, and how bad he looked for the Pens (Who are STILL paying him next year) and Jackets, while being a passable 3rd pairing D here. I’d expect him to look quite a bit better when away from the stench of this year’s awful Rangers team. The most important thing for the Avs and Bednar’s system is that he is still a good skater, miles ahead of CdH.

The thing is, can we even trust that guys fit our system anymore? Think about the amount of guys CMac has acquired, and Bednar has not used them or misused them. We used to think that if we get someone, he'll be a fit because our FO and pro-scouts know what they are doing. That hasn't been the case for some time now.

 

[Tommy Shelby]

Just remember the reactions to JMFJ when we got him, and how bad he looked for the Pens (Who are STILL paying him next year) and Jackets, while being a passable 3rd pairing D here. I’d expect him to look quite a bit better when away from the stench of this year’s awful Rangers team. The most important thing for the Avs and Bednar’s system is that he is still a good skater, miles ahead of CdH.

This is true, I ate a lot of crow with JJ.