GDT: GAME 68 | AVS @ SENS | One Foot In Front Of The Other - Avalanche, Matt Good | You Made Me Turn This Into A GDT Edition

I don't see an exit strategy through the foot....
Yeah works better through the chest:

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The issue is that 3rd line of Greig Pinto Amadio has been doing really well, Amadio in particular, is a point per game since Zetterberg was acquired. and 8 pts in his last 9 games. What kind of msg does it send to bump him down?
Well it's a much softer message than trading Norris.
 
In the town hall Q&A, Steve Staios said he barely sleeps and that he tells the analytic guys to f*** off. I have never related to the guy so much.

(Not his exact words, but close.)

Someone also asked a question about whether the games should go to 7:30 and I think Cyril Leeder stood up for all of us who hate 7:30 start times. The half hour makes a big difference. But Staios loves 7:30 start times because we always win them.
 
I guarantee you you'd say the same thing about Cozens if he came here and was stuck on the 4th line barely playing 10 minutes a night.

Zetterlund is a point producer, and he can't do his thing playing with two scrubs and very limited PP time. He's being wasted with the way Green is deploying him.

It's crazy that you think he should have shown more in his current role.
So are you of the opinion Green should be fired because he doesn't know what he is doing with Zetterlund? Does Green not know what he is doing? Is it his job to appease fans & do what they think should be done? I hope you are right that he is a point producer & I assume someone will eventually get hurt & they can move him up in the lineup & we can really see what he is capable of. It's never right to blame the other players for one player not being better. Good players make chances for themselves, good players make others around them better & good players find a way to show their talent level, we're still waiting.
 
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The issue is that 3rd line of Greig Pinto Amadio has been doing really well, Amadio in particular, is a point per game since Zetterberg was acquired. and 8 pts in his last 9 games. What kind of msg does it send to bump him down?
Amadio is a professional and as a cup winner, he'll understand. He's working his arse off in his role and getting some scoring, but even he'll recognize that it's a heater. Coaches can't just ride heaters and Amadio will still get his ice time in especially if Green stop playing Highmore so much on the PK. Ideally Giroux gets a minute or two shaved off his ice time as well and that can go to Amadio too.
 
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So are you of the opinion Green should be fired because he doesn't know what he is doing with Zetterlund? Does Green not know what he is doing? Is it his job to appease fans & do what they think should be done? I hope you are right that he is a point producer & I assume someone will eventually get hurt & they can move him up in the lineup & we can really see what he is capable of. It's never right to blame the other players for one player not being better. Good players make chances for themselves, good players make others around them better & good players find a way to show their talent level, we're still waiting.

I've generally come around on Green like most on here given the major improvement on team defense which is likely the top reason we find ourselves in a WC spot today, but this doesn't mean he doesn't have his glaring blind spots, one of them being his hardcore reluctance to make changes on the fly or scratch players who are struggling.

He's not a proactive coach at all, he sticks to what he knows and it takes multiple losses before he does react, and in Zetterlund's case, this is one of those times where he should be making changes before we go on another losing streak. Top line isn't gelling all that much this last week so why not try him there tonight and give an obviously ailing Tkachuk a bit of an easier time on the 2nd? Guys like Perron don't need top-6 minutes to be effective so move him down the lineup along with someone else and stop wasting an offensive threat with scrubs like Highmore and Gaudette.

No one needs to wait and see for Fabian to prove himself, he's already done so in SJ and this is why Staios went and got him.
 
Amadio is a professional and as a cup winner, he'll understand. He's working his arse off in his role and getting some scoring, but even he'll recognize that it's a heater. Coaches can't just ride heaters and Amadio will still get his ice time in especially if Green stop playing Highmore so much on the PK. Ideally Giroux gets a minute or two shaved off his ice time as well and that can go to Amadio too.
Its not about Amadio understanding its about putting the lineup out that you think gives you the best chance at winning.

That's it that's all. Its simple Z has to wait his turn. Those saying he should spell T7 either for a game or for parts of a game I think makes sense if T7's play drop remains what it was vs Mtl. Any winger gets banged up Z can move up.. right now he has to earn it.. Green has established a good feel has seen him in games, practices on the pp (taking Pinto out) and if he thinks he's better than someone playing above him he'll make the change. I would prefer Pinto was back in on PP2 personally. Whiny emo, think they know better, find anything to whine about like little girls fans won't change that
 
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Its not about Amadio understanding its about putting the lineup out that you think gives you the best chance at winning.

That's it that's all. Its simple Z has to wait his turn. Those saying he should spell T7 either for a game or for parts of a game I think makes sense if T7's play drop remains what it was vs Mtl. Any winger gets banged up Z can move up.. right now he has to earn it.. Green has established a good feel has seen him in games, practices on the pp (taking Pinto out) and if he thinks he's better than someone playing above him he'll make the change. I would prefer Pinto was back in on PP2 personally. Whiny emo, think they know better, find anything to whine about like little girls fans won't change that
I agree with you. If Amadio gets put on the 4th line, I hope the "msg" the team gets is "management thinks its the best chance to win".

We already have questionable messages being sent to the roster from the past like when Hamonic has played above a healthy JBD and Matinpalo, so I wouldn't be too concerned with Amadio or anyone being concerned with what "msg" is sent to the team if lines are shuffled.
 
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I've generally come around on Green like most on here given the major improvement on team defense which is likely the top reason we find ourselves in a WC spot today, but this doesn't mean he doesn't have his glaring blind spots, one of them being his hardcore reluctance to make changes on the fly or scratch players who are struggling.

He's not a proactive coach at all, he sticks to what he knows and it takes multiple losses before he does react, and in Zetterlund's case, this is one of those times where he should be making changes before we go on another losing streak. Top line isn't gelling all that much this last week so why not try him there tonight and give an obviously ailing Tkachuk a bit of an easier time on the 2nd? Guys like Perron don't need top-6 minutes to be effective so move him down the lineup along with someone else and stop wasting an offensive threat with scrubs like Highmore and Gaudette.

No one needs to wait and see for Fabian to prove himself, he's already done so in SJ and this is why Staios went and got him.
I hear what you are saying but aren't all coaches like that? To do what you are suggesting with disrupt all the lines. So we move Tkachuk to the second line even though he leads the team in goals, move Perron to the third line even though that line has really started to jell & move Amadio done to the 4th line even though he has scored the most goals for this team in the last number of games. Do you see this as a bit demoralizing for those who have been playing well to be demoted.

Of all those points, I would agree that if Tkachuk is ailing them let him sit for another game or two, if it's just something that is not serious, that is more of an annoyance or nagging than probably not given this team needs every point it can get at this time. We didn't lose in Montreal because of the top line we lost because of that one goal where Ullmark simply lost the rebound which was similar to Amadio's goal. Green's job is to win games & that is to dress the best players possible & give them the most ice time to assure victory. I don't see moving Zetterlund up in the lineup especially from the 4th line to the top line as being in Green's best interest to appease fans. I also don't see it as in the team's best interest & from my favourite view point I see it as detrimental to have two not very tough players in Tim & Z on the same line, that to me is a recipe for disaster. IMO I think he would fit better with Cozens & Batherson, but Perron is starting to come on as is the whole line. It's a tough call.

I imagine before long we will see him up in the lineup as soon as someone gets hurt, unfortunately in the NHL that is often the case when a player finally gets an opportunity is when someone ahead of them gets hurt. I hope he turns out to be as good as some are predicting.
 
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Colorado is another one of those teams that the Senators pretty much never beat.

2-9-0 in their last 11 against them while allowing an average of 5.18GAA.
 
I agree with you. If Amadio gets put on the 4th line, I hope the "msg" the team gets is "management thinks its the best chance to win".

We already have questionable messages being sent to the roster from the past like when Hamonic has played above a healthy JBD and Matinpalo, so I wouldn't be too concerned with Amadio or anyone being concerned with what "msg" is sent to the team if lines are shuffled.
If there is a compelling reason to change it up I'm sure it will happen. Things can go stale, the effectiveness drops, they need a spark etc.
If its not broke don't fix it and I don't agree with fixing it before it breaks.
 
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