GDT: Avs @ Blues | 5pm MT | Non-Emergency Emergency GDT

[Avs9296]

Light sauce like Alfredo or something else entirely? I'm white trash and grew up next to a dog food factory in Ft. Morgan. So I don't understand the subtlety of food flavoring

I understood it as light ON sauce. But still a tomato sauce.

 

[the_fan]

Pizza (pepperoni + bacon, light sauce)

Light sauce like Alfredo or something else entirely? I'm white trash and grew up next to a dog food factory in Ft. Morgan. So I don't understand the subtlety of food flavoring

Light sauce is the only way to go on pizza. When they put too much sauce on it, the majority of the pizza taste is a tomato sauce. With light sauce you taste the entire pizza like it supposed to be

 

[a mangy Meowth]

Light sauce like Alfredo or something else entirely? I'm white trash and grew up next to a dog food factory in Ft. Morgan. So I don't understand the subtlety of food flavoring

Just less sauce hahaha - I feel like too much sauce just ruins a pizza entirely. The ratio of dough/cheese/sauce/toppings is very important (for me)

 

[the_fan]

Just less sauce hahaha - I feel like too much sauce just ruins a pizza entirely. The ratio of dough/cheese/sauce/toppings is very important (for me)

Yup, with too much sauce on pizza you might as well pop open a can of tomato sauce and eat it as is. It totally ruins the pizza

 

[a mangy Meowth]

Yup, with too much sauce on pizza you might as well pop open a can of tomato sauce and eat it as is. It totally ruins the pizza

So true!

 

[dahrougem2]

Light sauce like Alfredo or something else entirely? I'm white trash and grew up next to a dog food factory in Ft. Morgan. So I don't understand the subtlety of food flavoring

What in the actual f*** is this insinuating lmao. You were out here eating dog food just because or????

 

[a mangy Meowth]

What in the actual f*** is this insinuating lmao. You were out here eating dog food just because or????

His sense of smell/taste is just shot because it always STINKS out loud near those places

 

[dahrougem2]

His sense of smell/taste is just shot because it always STINKS out loud near those places

Dear god I sure hope so lmao

 

[a mangy Meowth]

Dear god I sure hope so lmao

I'm hoping he confirms

 

[RECKLESS]

This game left a dogfood taste in my mouth.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Just less sauce hahaha - I feel like too much sauce just ruins a pizza entirely. The ratio of dough/cheese/sauce/toppings is very important (for me)

A man of good taste… as a guy who used to make pizza for a living this is true absolutely. Chicago pizza isn’t pizza

 

[The Kingslayer]

Missing the most important part: win tonight and @The Kingslayer is on the clock to change that avatar

Its safe. In fact it got fatter.

 

[The Moops]

What in the actual f*** is this insinuating lmao. You were out here eating dog food just because or????

His sense of smell/taste is just shot because it always STINKS out loud near those places

lmao, I just always joke about being uncultured because I used to live next to a dog food factory. It's my default joke when I don't know something that seems like everyone should know. So now I feel doubly stupid for not realizing it wasn't the type of sauce, just the quantity

 

[flyfysher]

Yeah I gotta be honest, I haven’t been overly impressed by Nelson. He’s certainly not the type of player who can anchor his own line. I think if he’s given some talent on the wings he’s fine, but paying him $7mil is not something I’d be interested in right now. Thought he made some really bad plays last night.

Given what JB has been doing with the 2nd line and how little they have played, you ought to give Nelson a lot more slack. I’ve seen Mitts blow up after people begged for a viable 2C. The Avs signed Mitts even though they knew he had a history of inconsistency. Now after spending most of the season listening to people whine about not having a viable 2C. We’re not happy with Nelson, a proven 2C? Like who do you think would be a viable candidate that the Avs can sign? What assets could we use to get one? When you know the answers to that question and having seen players do a 180 in terms of performance, you will see the value in being a lot more patient.

 

[expatriatedtexan]

Given what JB has been doing with the 2nd line and how little they have played, you ought to give Nelson a lot more slack. I’ve seen Mitts blow up after people begged for a viable 2C. The Avs signed Mitts even though they knew he had a history of inconsistency. Now after spending most of the season listening to people whine about not having a viable 2C. We’re not happy with Nelson, a proven 2C? Like who do you think would be a viable candidate that the Avs can sign? What assets could we use to get one? When you know the answers to that question and having seen players do a 180 in terms of performance, you will see the value in being a lot more patient.

I've been saying it for a while, but I think the problem is behind the bench. The man can't work with any 2Cs. The only 2C that has worked for him was when Kadri went f***ing galaxy mind in his UFA year and played like a top 10 center in the league. That wasn't Kadri's norm.

I really am surprised Bednar is still here. I would have thought that CMac would ding himself for Jost, Newhook and RyJo, but Mitts worked so well last season and to begin this season. Call it inconsistency in his play all you want, and I'm not saying you're wrong.

What I am saying, is the one consistency I see is Bednar doesn't know how to develop, coach, deploy or use a second line.

 

[Pokecheque]

I've been saying it for a while, but I think the problem is behind the bench. The man can't work with any 2Cs. The only 2C that has worked for him was when Kadri went f***ing galaxy mind in his UFA year and played like a top 10 center in the league. That wasn't Kadri's norm.

I really am surprised Bednar is still here. I would have thought that CMac would ding himself for Jost, Newhook and RyJo, but Mitts worked so well last season and to begin this season. Call it inconsistency in his play all you want, and I'm not saying you're wrong.

What I am saying, is the one consistency I see is Bednar doesn't know how to develop, coach, deploy or use a second line.

Well let's not exaggerate here. In Naz's first season with the Avs he averaged 17:26 TOI. His following year when most people agree he sucked, he still averaged 16:28. That's not a massive drop. His final year in Colorado where he went balls out, his ATOI jumped to 19:14. So don't say that he *only* went with a viable 2C option when Kadri was playing his career best, because that's simply not true.

Also, Soderberg, not counting the year the Avs tanked for Cale, averaged a little over 17 minutes for two seasons under Bednar. He was always listed as the 3C but we all know he was the 2C both those years.

Mittelstadt when he first arrived in COL, averaged around 15+ minutes, and even getting exiled to what was essentially 4th line minutes near the end of his next (and final) season, it still averaged out to 17 minutes exactly.

I just don't agree with what your positing here. Bednar has had issues for sure, but he has not been behind the 2C issue--that's on management, 100000%.

One thing that is simply not being talked about enough is, not only is the team missing half of its scoring line wingers, the OTHER half are mired in a very, very worrisome slump. Neither Nichushkin nor Lehkonen have scored much, if any, at even strength for well over 10 games now. Lehkonen has GOT to be injured because he's making some gawdawful mistakes and taking really dumb penalties that just isn't characteristic of him. So now Bednar is trying just about everything he can to get those two going and nothing, not even a shootout winner, is working. On top of that there's clearly some sort of issue with Nathan MacKinnon that absolutely NO ONE is talking about.

 

[expatriatedtexan]

Well let's not exaggerate here. In Naz's first season with the Avs he averaged 17:26 TOI. His following year when most people agree he sucked, he still averaged 16:28. That's not a massive drop. His final year in Colorado where he went balls out, his ATOI jumped to 19:14. So don't say that he *only* went with a viable 2C option when Kadri was playing his career best, because that's simply not true.

Also, Soderberg, not counting the year the Avs tanked for Cale, averaged a little over 17 minutes for two seasons under Bednar. He was always listed as the 3C but we all know he was the 2C both those years.

Mittelstadt when he first arrived in COL, averaged around 15+ minutes, and even getting exiled to what was essentially 4th line minutes near the end of his next (and final) season, it still averaged out to 17 minutes exactly.

I just don't agree with what your positing here. Bednar has had issues for sure, but he has not been behind the 2C issue--that's on management, 100000%.

One thing that is simply not being talked about enough is, not only is the team missing half of its scoring line wingers, the OTHER half are mired in a very, very worrisome slump. Neither Nichushkin nor Lehkonen have scored much, if any, at even strength for well over 10 games now. Lehkonen has GOT to be injured because he's making some gawdawful mistakes and taking really dumb penalties that just isn't characteristic of him. So now Bednar is trying just about everything he can to get those two going and nothing, not even a shootout winner, is working. On top of that there's clearly some sort of issue with Nathan MacKinnon that absolutely NO ONE is talking about.

I read what you are saying. The TOI matches up.

The identies and effectiveness of the second lines really don't though. What I am saying is that our second line, under another coach... may very well have been able to produce more than it has under Bednar. In fact, I think our 3rd and 4th lines might have been able to as well. His "system" is completely geared towards people with an ungodly skillset. If you don't have that skillset, the only thing he really appears to do is demand a strong motor and hope you can tread water and not get scored on. If the entire team wasn't trying to generate fast break offense, the 3/4 of the team built to play a cycle game would be a lot more effective. There is a disconnect between the players the management are targeting and what the HC is willing to do. It feels like Bednar is just poo-poo'ing CMac's efforts to have a heavy, fast, brusing bottom six.

 

[flyfysher]

Yeah, Lehky and Nuke have not been scoring. I agree, Lehky’s play has been rather poor. I am concerned that JB is not allowing Nelson to develop some chemistry with his linemates and I’m uncomfortable with it going into the POs. I used to think you couldn’t take Lehky out of the top 6 but I’m beginning to think maybe he should be a 3rd line winger if Landy looks serviceable.

 

[expatriatedtexan]

Yeah, Lehky and Nuke have not been scoring. I agree, Lehky’s play has been rather poor. I am concerned that JB is not allowing Nelson to develop some chemistry with his linemates and I’m uncomfortable with it going into the POs. I used to think you couldn’t take Lehky out of the top 6 but I’m beginning to think maybe he should be a 3rd line winger if Landy looks serviceable.

We're in the final week. We've clinched a spot. Bednar can rest people all he wants if possible... BUT, he must demand effort, urgency and attention to detail from everyone that IS playing. If he's gotta send Kivi and LOC out with Nate because they're the only two wingers with jump and the dawg appears to be running... you do it. I would prefer that he concentrated on building chemistry this week, but at the end of the day the most important thing for me is to see the team playing the right way and putting in full efforts. The score is secondary(ish).

 

[Pokecheque]

I read what you are saying. The TOI matches up.

The identies and effectiveness of the second lines really don't though. What I am saying is that our second line, under another coach... may very well have been able to produce more than it has under Bednar. In fact, I think our 3rd and 4th lines might have been able to as well. His "system" is completely geared towards people with an ungodly skillset. If you don't have that skillset, the only thing he really appears to do is demand a strong motor and hope you can tread water and not get scored on. If the entire team wasn't trying to generate fast break offense, the 3/4 of the team built to play a cycle game would be a lot more effective. There is a disconnect between the players the management are targeting and what the HC is willing to do. It feels like Bednar is just poo-poo'ing CMac's efforts to have a heavy, fast, brusing bottom six.

Again, don’t agree. If anything he has railed against the skill guys getting too cute and trying for the perfect shot. He has pushed more (at least publicly) to be more north/south and to crash the net and pressure the goalie and score from in close.

And judging by the play of the bottom six, Bednar loves what they’re doing, especially their work down low in the zone. So much so that he tried to avoid breaking up the third and fourth lines when both Necas and Drouin went down and handed Nelson a couple scrubs.