Proposal: Avs and Ducks

[Avs36]

Landeskog + Tyutin (7.57AVV)
For
Fowler + Bieksa (8.00AVV)

All dependent on Bieksa waiving.
Could also make the trade in the offseason so bieksa has a run at a cup this year. Then avs just don't include tyutin if off-season.

Biggest plus for Anaheim (besides landeskog) is the cap savings next year not having bieksa.

could also sub Gelinas instead of tyutin. If that still works with avs cap.

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[edguy]

Dont see Colorado liking this one to much..

 

[dracom]

Avs would most likely never do this trade. Bieksa wouldn't waive his NMC. Ducks also probably won't trade Fowler who has been their best defensemen all season.

 

[Avs44]

This is a joke, right? You don't just want Landeskog for Fowler, but you want to dump massive negative value in there too?

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

Well that's truly terrible for the Avs. So the Avs have the pleasure of having to protect Bieksa and Beauchemin?

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

So let me get this straight...


Avs are moving easily the best player in the deal, AND we're helping Anaheim in a huge way by taking possibly the worst contract in the NHL right now?


And our reward for doing all of this is a lesser player in Cam Fowler?

 

[WhatTheDuck]

So let me get this straight...


Avs are moving easily the best player in the deal, AND we're helping Anaheim in a huge way by taking possibly the worst contract in the NHL right now?


And our reward for doing all of this is a lesser player in Cam Fowler?

I can understand not liking this trade from an Avs perspective due to the contracts involved but Landeskog is no more of an impact player than Fowler is.

 

[Avs44]

So to sum this beauty up

- EJ has a broken leg, Avs are in dead last, AKA season is most likely done.
- The Avs likely need something of a rebuild; they certainly are not competing this year, or next year
- You thus suggest they trade their 23 year old captain, with 4.5 years left on his contract, for a defensman with 1.5 years left on his contract
- Avs not only lose that swap in terms of value, but it makes zero sense for them with where the club is at.
- To make it better, you suggest they take on one of the worst contracts in the league.


Did you put any thought into this?

 

[Avs36]

Ok, apparently that was too far off. Was thinking of why Anaheim would want to trade fowler for Landy with the seasons they are having. And plus the difference value in defence and wingers.

In a vacuum Landy is a better player imo. But in the real NHL d-men have a lot more value.
Plus avs wouldn't have to protect bieksa. If he waived his NM for the ave he loses his NM. So as don't need to protect him.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

I can understand not liking this trade from an Avs perspective due to the contracts involved but Landeskog is no more of an impact player than Fowler is.

I cant even read this with a straight face. Landeskog is most certainly a more impact player then Fowler.

It's really not even that close either.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Anaheim and Colorado apparently spoke about Landeskog in the offseason but Colorado wanted Lindholm and that was pretty much the end of it. I'm guessing if this conversation was to start up again Anaheim would have to at least consider Lindholm in some way.

Avs aren't going to trade the only proven top 6 winger on their roster for Fowler.

 

[JLo217]

Ok, apparently that was too far off. Was thinking of why Anaheim would want to trade fowler for Landy with the seasons they are having. And plus the difference value in defence and wingers.

In a vacuum Landy is a better player imo. But in the real NHL d-men have a lot more value.
Plus avs wouldn't have to protect bieksa. If he waived his NM for the ave he loses his NM. So as don't need to protect him.

That's a big big if.

I'd entertain Landeskog and a mid level + for Lindholm

 

[WhatTheDuck]

I cant even read this with a straight face. Landeskog is most certainly a more impact player then Fowler.

It's really not even that close either.

I don't care what you think, Fowler is blossoming into a #1D and is easily as valuable as your first line winger. He's been the Ducks best player all season.

 

[dracom]

I cant even read this with a straight face. Landeskog is most certainly a more impact player then Fowler.

It's really not even that close either.

Yeah, who else will crosscheck a helpless player just coming back from a concussion in the side of the head for the Avs? Oh yeah, you have Barrier who will just make cheapshots on a helpless player ruining his career. Such impact players the Avs have there.

 

[dracom]

Anaheim and Colorado apparently spoke about Landeskog in the offseason but Colorado wanted Lindholm and that was pretty much the end of it. I'm guessing if this conversation was to start up again Anaheim would have to at least consider Lindholm in some way.

Avs aren't going to trade the only proven top 6 winger on their roster for Fowler.

We said no to Landeskog for Lindholm was unsigned, we're not going to suddenly consider a signed Lindholm for Landeskog. The avs can keep their dirty players.

 

[Drij]

Take out Bieksa and you have a deal.

 

[Avs44]

I see the whine committee has shown up.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Yeah, who else will crosscheck a helpless player just coming back from a concussion in the side of the head for the Avs? Oh yeah, you have Barrier who will just make cheapshots on a helpless player ruining his career. Such impact players the Avs have there.

You know a fan knows very little about another team when the only two things they point out were the plays that impacted THEIR team and says absolutely nothing else about what those players bring.

But yeah, watch our for the big bruiser Tyson Barrie. The only noteworthy thing he has done in his career was lay a high hit on Despres. That reckless thug has a full 12 hits this year, no place in the game for a guy like that.

 

[dracom]

You know a fan knows very little about another team when the only two things they point out were the plays that impacted THEIR team and says absolutely nothing else about what those players bring.

But yeah, watch our for the big bruiser Tyson Barrie. The only noteworthy thing he has done in his career was lay a high hit on Despres. That reckless thug has a full 12 hits this year, no place in the game for a guy like that.

Did I claim to know more than you guys about your team? Hell, I even said the Avs wouldn't do this deal.

If you guys want to keep the impact winger who pulled off one of the dirtiest hits in recent years for no reason, instead of adding a #1 D of similar age, go ahead.


Yeah, just a little high hit. A unneeded high hit that took out Despres for over half the season and contributed to pretty much ended his career. Just a high hit is all

 

[Avs44]

Did I claim to know more than you guys about your team? Hell, I even said the Avs wouldn't do this deal.

If you guys want to keep the impact winger who pulled off one of the dirtiest hits in recent years for no reason, instead of adding a #1 D of similar age, go ahead.


Yeah, just a little high hit. A unneeded high hit that took out Despres for over half the season and contributed to pretty much ended his career. Just a high hit is all

I'm sure when filthy bruiser Tyson Barrie made that hit he intended to end Despres' career. I'm sure he also caused the 1-2 concussions Despres got after, the willful blindness from the Ducks medical and coaching staff, and the sheer stupidity of Despres himself to insert himself back into the lineup while still suffering from headaches and dizziness, right?



Anyways, you still managed to bring up an unrelated hit in this thread from Landeskog, Tyson Barrie, who is irrelevant here, and Simon Despres, who is also irrelevant here. Talk about sour eggs.

 

[dracom]

I'm sure when filthy bruiser Tyson Barrie made that hit he intended to end Despres' career. I'm sure he also caused the 1-2 concussions Despres got after, the willful blindness from the Ducks medical and coaching staff, and the sheer stupidity of Despres himself to insert himself back into the lineup while still suffering from headaches and dizziness, right?



Anyways, you still managed to bring up an unrelated hit in this thread from Landeskog, Tyson Barrie, who is irrelevant here, and Simon Despres, who is also irrelevant here. Talk about sour eggs.

Yup, i'm just sour about completely unneeded hits from two Avs players on a player that pretty much ended his career. Keep defending your players though, I'm sure they'll make the impact you guys want someday.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Did I claim to know more than you guys about your team? Hell, I even said the Avs wouldn't do this deal.

If you guys want to keep the impact winger who pulled off one of the dirtiest hits in recent years for no reason, instead of adding a #1 D of similar age, go ahead.


Yeah, just a little high hit. A unneeded high hit that took out Despres for over half the season and contributed to pretty much ended his career. Just a high hit is all

I didn't say you claimed to know more than we do. I claimed that you seemed to know very little and was just laughing at the fact that one of the best LW'ers in the game was brought up in a trade proposal and the only thing you have to say about him is that he's dirty for a hit he laid against your team. Then you go and mention another player who is in no way related to the proposal or brought up by anybody else in this thread in Tyson Barrie and bring up a dirty play he made against your team too.

 

[Avs44]

Yup, i'm just sour about completely unneeded hits from two Avs players on a player that pretty much ended his career. Keep defending your players though, I'm sure they'll make the impact you guys want someday.

And so now you feel the need to whine about it absolutely every time you see an Avs fan, so just everyone understands how upset you are. Got it.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Landeskog + Tyutin (7.57AVV)
For
Fowler + Bieksa (8.00AVV)

All dependent on Bieksa waiving.
Could also make the trade in the offseason so bieksa has a run at a cup this year. Then avs just don't include tyutin if off-season.

Biggest plus for Anaheim (besides landeskog) is the cap savings next year not having bieksa.

could also sub Gelinas instead of tyutin. If that still works with avs cap.

Get real Landeskog has more value then Fowler and Bieksa combined, No way does Bieksa waive for Colorado this is pretty bad for Colorado. The only way Landeskog winds up in Anaheim is if Lindholm winds up in Colorado and that's not happening.

 

[dracom]

And so now you feel the need to whine about it absolutely every time you see an Avs fan, so just everyone understands how upset you are. Got it.

Yes, by talking about it in a thread about Landeskog means I feel the need to whine about it absolutely every time I see an Avs fan, right...

It couldn't be that I would rather have a player who has been our best D all season instead of another cheapshotting winger on this team.