GDT: Avalanche vs Golden Knights 11/27/24 @8ish PM. (Emergency GDT) American Turkey Day Eve.

SB

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Well I think they learned their lesson from the Tampa game. No shots from Vegas for the final 15 minutes is pretty sweet. Overall they looked like the better team. Georgie looked shaky, but hopefully that shootout gives him some more confidence going forward, because they probably aren't willing to give up on him any time soon. Nate also looked more like himself, and it's early days, but Kylington sure looks like a potential Girard replacement if we have to make that move at some point.

I feel happy for Nuke that he got those goals. He works so hard on the ice, so it's nice to see him rewarded.

On the whole addiction discussion and whether or not to cheer for him, I think I have a rather odd take. I don't really care what he does off the ice. If he had been taken out of the playoffs due to him injuring himself doing something dumb, it wouldn't matter to me any more or less than him failing a drug test. Hockey players, on the whole, are not smart people. I'm sure they make all sorts of stupid decisions in their personal life. Most barely have high school educations. Nuke also has the issue of Russian culture, especially Russian star athlete culture.

I mean, back in the day hockey players apparently were doing coke all the time. Do we even know what kinds of things the 96 team were putting into their bodies? How about the 01 team?

I think Val's family, friends and teammates have reason to be annoyed or angry with him, but me as a fan? Do whatever you want Val. I'll cheer for you when you're on the ice and when you're not (for whatever reason) I'm not going to think of you much.

And the fact is, he's not a tradable asset (at least not without taking a loss compared to what he brings on the ice), so anyone who cheers for this team should probably get used to seeing him play.

Honestly, this whole mindset that he quit on his team reminds me a lot of what went on in Toronto with Kadri, who got suspended in the playoffs two consecutive playoffs. After they traded him here, Dubas even said that they "had to" trade him. That was never remotely true - look what they got for him compared to what he brought us. Kadri likely would still be in Toronto and be their long-time 2nd line center, but they got caught up in the narrative that just because it happened before, it's guaranteed to happen again.

So, will Val fail another drug test? Maybe. He might be a drug addict, and that likely means relapses. In my mind, that makes him similar to someone like Drouin, who is always getting injured. When he's around - great. When he's not - that sucks but the rest of the team will need to step up.

Lastly, when it comes to addiction in general, I'm team empathy. Yeah there are probably some dumb decisions scattered throughout any addict's story, but there's also the fact that we're talking about a chemical addiction here - not something based purely on willpower. Couple that with an environment where you have tons of money, tons of freedom, and lots of physical pain, and it's frankly amazing that more hockey players don't fail drug tests (or maybe they're just not testing for the right drugs).
Be careful, this board doesn't do nuance. Things are`either the absolute best or absolute worst (more likely), nothing in between. The Kadri example is good, and we know we would all be fearing the scene of Nuke holding up another Cup for Team X, as Leafs fans had to watch Kadri do it.

As long as he plays like $6mil Nuke, clean, that's fine with me. Of course, when high, he is $12mil Nuke; we can be grateful the Avs didn't pay him like that even though that player is worth that money.
 

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George with a .910 save percentage in November.

Bednar must have been poking players in the back of the head with his boner on the bench last night.
Bednar when Fourgiev stops a puck for a change

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Be careful, this board doesn't do nuance. Things are`either the absolute best or absolute worst (more likely), nothing in between. The Kadri example is good, and we know we would all be fearing the scene of Nuke holding up another Cup for Team X, as Leafs fans had to watch Kadri do it.

As long as he plays like $6mil Nuke, clean, that's fine with me. Of course, when high, he is $12mil Nuke; we can be grateful the Avs didn't pay him like that even though that player is worth that money.
And Nuke also played for Dallas before Avs winning the cup so there is that also twisting the knife for them 😅
 
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George with a .910 save percentage in November.

Bednar must have been poking players in the back of the head with his boner on the bench last night.

Why do you think Shittington didn't get any shifts late in the game? Guy turned around to ask the trainer something and got his eye poked out by that Bednar spear.
 

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Makar was chaotic in his positioning but looked like he wanted to take the game over every time he was on the ice. Led the rush, got down low on the cycle, was everywhere. He was also one of our only D who was handling the Vegas forecheck well in the first half of the game, absorbing the pressure but not coughing up the puck. He wanted that win yesterday.
Not gonna lie, Makar is such a different player... I want him to be chaotic in his positioning. It will lead to some goals against, but he is f***ing amazing and I want him to have the puck as much as possible.
 

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I'm still waiting for that f***er Evan to apologize for jinxing MacK out there. If not for the jinx the Manson shot goes in and all these virtuous posters don't have to tell us about their Nuke trust issues.
 

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Yeah no Makar and Nuke will hurt. Go figure. If only Bo had truly shown he was the ultimate 1D in the league he'd be all we need
The whole.team was bad and lost to a.team that shouldn't have been in the playoffs.

That team wasn't beating anybody.
 

Alienblood

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We should trade Makar for Dmitry Orlov. Good + player
Makar is up to - 1 he will catch up. Nuke is back so the team will go on a tear and their goal diffential will rise.

The Caps are + 30 and have the top 3 in + /- , I wonder why they have a good record
 

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