bbfan419
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We Toronto fans now?
If it meant we could do the right deals and get both Matthews and Chychrun, I would not mind tanking and being the Leafs for one season, because there would be a whole lot of happier times ahead.
We Toronto fans now?
If it meant we could do the right deals and get both Matthews and Chychrun, I would not mind tanking and being the Leafs for one season, because there would be a whole lot of happier times ahead.
The last thing they need is the #1 pick, just b/c they need a franchise defenseman, badly, and would probably take Matthews just b/c.
If Edmonton gets the first overall pick again, the league should just say no
Just noticed the Edmonton first win last night. WTF is wrong with that city? God they better not come near the top pick let alone the top five again this season.
The last thing they need is the #1 pick, just b/c they need a franchise defenseman, badly, and would probably take Matthews just b/c.
Agreed. Chychrun is the guy we need. And Chara can mentor him during his final years here.
No.
I'm a big fan of Chychrun, but taking him over Matthews is like drafting Noah Hannifin over McDavid/Eichel. Or Cam Barker over Ovechkin. Or Thomas Hickey over Patrick Kane. Given how badly Barker and Hickey turned out, you can figure how those draft pics would have gone over had the teams done them.
It's easier to find a solid #1 D than it is to find a franchise player. You don't pass over a Matthews because you've been bad at retaining your future #1 D (Hamilton, whatever the reason he left).
Not sure why you quoted me in that lol. I said EDM, if they ended up with the #1 pick, would have to take Matthews with it even though they need a franchise type defenseman.
If it meant we could do the right deals and get both Matthews and Chychrun, I would not mind tanking and being the Leafs for one season, because there would be a whole lot of happier times ahead.
well, so much for San Jose's pick being a high one it would seem.
well, so much for San Jose's pick being a high one it would seem.
They will fade as they always do. But yea, its not gonna be as high as we all hoped.
well, so much for San Jose's pick being a high one it would seem.
No.
I'm a big fan of Chychrun, but taking him over Matthews is like drafting Noah Hannifin over McDavid/Eichel. Or Cam Barker over Ovechkin. Or Thomas Hickey over Patrick Kane. Given how badly Barker and Hickey turned out, you can figure how those draft pics would have gone over had the teams done them.
It's easier to find a solid #1 D than it is to find a franchise player. You don't pass over a Matthews because you've been bad at retaining your future #1 D (Hamilton, whatever the reason he left).
Well ...
Chychrun > Hanifin
Matthews < McDavid/Eichel
Not really the same thing at all
Another journo on Auston Matthews:
http://edmontonjournal.com/sports/h...dont-more-top-nhl-draft-prospects-do-the-same
And this, where he absolutely blew away production by Eichel, Kane, and Kessel with US NTDP:
Yes, I know, you keep saying the same things, re-stating the same proposition, despite being debunked -- on Eichel being better than Matthews.
Did you even bother reading any of the posts since you last said the same thing?
Let me try again:
That's right -- Matthews has absolutely blown away Eichel's production on the US NTDP squad. He also has blown away production by present NHL stars like Patrick Kane and Kessel.
To put it very simply, 116 > 73.
But fine, you can just re-write Matthews < Eichel, and it will remain true. Always.
this defense is a disaster. rask has been mediocre at best.
No offense, but you should take your own advice concerning defenseman. You keep putting lesser defenseman into the same camp as Ekblad and doughty. By all accounts chychrun looks to be a stud, an elite defenseman that any team would love to have and in the same breath as those two. And you keep comparing him to someone like Noah hanifin, who just isn't that. Noah is a tremendous player, maybe he'll be a number one. And maybe chychrun will bust. But your d comparisons are way off. And believe me, I wanted Don to flip some picks at the draft to move up for Hanifin.
My point way back was that elite d are better than elite f. And chychrun looks like he will be a stud, as his trend line currently suggests. Cam barker and Thomas hickey never had that going for them.
You got me on the Matthews and eichel thing, I hadn't seen that until you pointed it out. Doesn't change that, unless chychrun's play starts to really slip, I'd much rather have him than Austin. He fits this teams needs better, and in my opinion (and that's all it is) he'd be worth the risk, because the payoff is much bigger.
Elite forwards come and go. The league is littered with them. Hell, Pitt arguably has 3. But if you get the chance at possibly having an elite d, not good not great but elite, you take that risk.
No offense, but you should take your own advice concerning defenseman. You keep putting lesser defenseman into the same camp as Ekblad and doughty. By all accounts chychrun looks to be a stud, an elite defenseman that any team would love to have and in the same breath as those two. And you keep comparing him to someone like Noah hanifin, who just isn't that. Noah is a tremendous player, maybe he'll be a number one. And maybe chychrun will bust. But your d comparisons are way off. And believe me, I wanted Don to flip some picks at the draft to move up for Hanifin.
My point way back was that elite d are better than elite f. And chychrun looks like he will be a stud, as his trend line currently suggests. Cam barker and Thomas hickey never had that going for them.
You got me on the Matthews and eichel thing, I hadn't seen that until you pointed it out. Doesn't change that, unless chychrun's play starts to really slip, I'd much rather have him than Austin. He fits this teams needs better, and in my opinion (and that's all it is) he'd be worth the risk, because the payoff is much bigger.
Elite forwards come and go. The league is littered with them. Hell, Pitt arguably has 3. But if you get the chance at possibly having an elite d, not good not great but elite, you take that risk.
No offense, but you should take your own advice concerning defenseman. You keep putting lesser defenseman into the same camp as Ekblad and doughty. By all accounts chychrun looks to be a stud, an elite defenseman that any team would love to have and in the same breath as those two. And you keep comparing him to someone like Noah hanifin, who just isn't that. Noah is a tremendous player, maybe he'll be a number one. And maybe chychrun will bust. But your d comparisons are way off. And believe me, I wanted Don to flip some picks at the draft to move up for Hanifin.
My point way back was that elite d are better than elite f. And chychrun looks like he will be a stud, as his trend line currently suggests. Cam barker and Thomas hickey never had that going for them.
You got me on the Matthews and eichel thing, I hadn't seen that until you pointed it out. Doesn't change that, unless chychrun's play starts to really slip, I'd much rather have him than Austin. He fits this teams needs better, and in my opinion (and that's all it is) he'd be worth the risk, because the payoff is much bigger.
Elite forwards come and go. The league is littered with them. Hell, Pitt arguably has 3. But if you get the chance at possibly having an elite d, not good not great but elite, you take that risk.