Auston Matthews race to Top 10 in Maple Leafs History (Goals)

[zeke]

r/woosh

r/re-wooshed

 

[Buds17]

I've never bought that Cups make the player. Why go with the proxy of counting hardware when thousands of hours of their actual play is in front of you

I think there would have to be incredibly little in terms of separation in a player comparison for Cup wins to become the deciding factor. I'd still be stunned if both players didn't win at least one Cup at some point.

 

[Fogelhund]

I've never bought that Cups make the player. Why go with the proxy of counting hardware when thousands of hours of their actual play is in front of you

It's what would turn a great player, into a legend, particularly in Toronto.

 

[7even]

It's what would turn a great player, into a legend, particularly in Toronto.

I feel that. I guess I feel like whenever who's better gets brought up, there needs to be a distinction between goodness and greatness. Like I'd say having or not having Cups would be a measure of greatness, but how good a player is is only ever just their skill and talent.

 

[ECanuck]

If he sticks around he will be #1

No doubt. He will smash the record.

 

[ShaneFalco]

One of the best if not the best in the league

 

[Notsince67]

There is no doubt Matthew's is capable of hitting the top of this list. I doubt he does though if the leafs land a cup before his next contract. I'm not saying this to disparage him for disloyalty or anything like that. I just believe he wants to leave a real legacy in this league. After winning a cup, he could be seen as a savior of his childhood team. If the yotes survive that long, there will be tremendous pressure for him to play there. I get it. Any fan of the game would. It wont be about money. It will be about setting a legacy for a team with little history. He would be immortalized.
Just being realistic

 

[koyvoo]

Someone pays Steve Simmons to write about hockey and we all know how much of an expert he is.

I'm not saying you're right or wrong, I'm saying being a writer doesn't automatically give you a better grasp on the game, it means you have a better way with words than most.

I’m not paid to write about it lol. My grammar is atrocious. I’m paid to analyze games.

 

[saffronleaf]

There is no doubt Matthew's is capable of hitting the top of this list. I doubt he does though if the leafs land a cup before his next contract. I'm not saying this to disparage him for disloyalty or anything like that. I just believe he wants to leave a real legacy in this league. After winning a cup, he could be seen as a savior of his childhood team. If the yotes survive that long, there will be tremendous pressure for him to play there. I get it. Any fan of the game would. It wont be about money. It will be about setting a legacy for a team with little history. He would be immortalized.
Just being realistic

if he goes hopefully he takes marner with him

 

[Sypher04]

There is no doubt Matthew's is capable of hitting the top of this list. I doubt he does though if the leafs land a cup before his next contract. I'm not saying this to disparage him for disloyalty or anything like that. I just believe he wants to leave a real legacy in this league. After winning a cup, he could be seen as a savior of his childhood team. If the yotes survive that long, there will be tremendous pressure for him to play there. I get it. Any fan of the game would. It wont be about money. It will be about setting a legacy for a team with little history. He would be immortalized.
Just being realistic

I don’t personally see it. Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure the allure of playing for his home club would be strong if they were good, but I just don’t see how Arizona improves enough between now and then to make it worthwhile for him. He’d leave a bigger legacy continuing to be part of winning teams in Toronto than floundering with a Mickey Mouse organization in the remainder of his prime years

 

[leafsfan5]

There is no doubt Matthew's is capable of hitting the top of this list. I doubt he does though if the leafs land a cup before his next contract. I'm not saying this to disparage him for disloyalty or anything like that. I just believe he wants to leave a real legacy in this league. After winning a cup, he could be seen as a savior of his childhood team. If the yotes survive that long, there will be tremendous pressure for him to play there. I get it. Any fan of the game would. It wont be about money. It will be about setting a legacy for a team with little history. He would be immortalized.
Just being realistic

If he wins us the cup he can wherever he wants

 

[Confucius]

There is no doubt Matthew's is capable of hitting the top of this list. I doubt he does though if the leafs land a cup before his next contract. I'm not saying this to disparage him for disloyalty or anything like that. I just believe he wants to leave a real legacy in this league. After winning a cup, he could be seen as a savior of his childhood team. If the yotes survive that long, there will be tremendous pressure for him to play there. I get it. Any fan of the game would. It wont be about money. It will be about setting a legacy for a team with little history. He would be immortalized.
Just being realistic

His numbers won't be as good in his next contract as they were in this one. Not that he will be washedup or anything but Players get older. Even now fans are saying he only attains legacy status here, if he renews here. It takes time...

 

[Gary Nylund]

There is no doubt Matthew's is capable of hitting the top of this list. I doubt he does though if the leafs land a cup before his next contract. I'm not saying this to disparage him for disloyalty or anything like that. I just believe he wants to leave a real legacy in this league. After winning a cup, he could be seen as a savior of his childhood team. If the yotes survive that long, there will be tremendous pressure for him to play there. I get it. Any fan of the game would. It wont be about money. It will be about setting a legacy for a team with little history. He would be immortalized.
Just being realistic

The road to the yotes is the road to irrelevancy and going from the hockey capital of the world to a team that's going down the drain would be the opposite of leaving a legacy. Not sure even someone like Gretzky could save that franchise and as much as I love Matthews, he's not a superstar on the level of a Gretkzy.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

The road to the yotes is the read to irrelevancy and going from the hockey capital of the world to a team that's going down the drain would be the opposite of leaving the legacy. Not sure even someone like Gretzky could save that franchise and as much as I love Matthews, he's not a superstar on the level of a Gretkzy.

You are right .. unless some multi billionaire flush with cash from Phoenix buy Yotes and invests hundreds of millions into LT plan to build new arena and fan base as his baby then Yotes are never gonna be a NHL factor in any form .. and that is as likely as hitting da $100M powerball lottery in other words NOT .. more than likely Yotes will be moved to another city like Houston in some kinda buyout/new franchise deal where NHL owners profit and old owner gets his $$ back

 

[slozo]

I think Hull has to be on everyone's list. I guess the top 5 could be Hull, Bossy, Gretzky, Lemieux and Ovechkin in whatever order, at least until Matthews pushes someone out. Maybe I'm missing someone, but those are the first names that come to mind anyway.

That's probably my top 5 as well, although it's very tough to keep out Jagr and Bure but you have to make a line somewhere I guess . . .

I think Matthews has a chance to get in that top 5, but it'll have to be a decently long and steady career to get there.

 

[Legion34]

There is no doubt Matthew's is capable of hitting the top of this list. I doubt he does though if the leafs land a cup before his next contract. I'm not saying this to disparage him for disloyalty or anything like that. I just believe he wants to leave a real legacy in this league. After winning a cup, he could be seen as a savior of his childhood team. If the yotes survive that long, there will be tremendous pressure for him to play there. I get it. Any fan of the game would. It wont be about money. It will be about setting a legacy for a team with little history. He would be immortalized.
Just being realistic

Just out of curiousity. What not all time great player has been immortalized for propping up a small franchise?

who Rick nash?
rob brindamour?

How do you define “immortalized” Ron Francis is top 5 or 6’all time in points and few people even know who he is.

 

[cupcrazyman]

Vaive was one goal short of 10 straight 30+ goal seasons (The first 7 with Toronto.)
Considering how bad the Leafs were back then, pretty impressive.

Would be interesting to see how many players actually played at least 10 seasons with the Leafs.Most of those players in that list played during the glory years in Toronto hockey history.In the early years how many seasons did a player play in the nhl & was 10 + years an anomaly ?

 

[Damisoph]

There is no doubt Matthew's is capable of hitting the top of this list. I doubt he does though if the leafs land a cup before his next contract. I'm not saying this to disparage him for disloyalty or anything like that. I just believe he wants to leave a real legacy in this league. After winning a cup, he could be seen as a savior of his childhood team. If the yotes survive that long, there will be tremendous pressure for him to play there. I get it. Any fan of the game would. It wont be about money. It will be about setting a legacy for a team with little history. He would be immortalized.
Just being realistic

I could see him going back to AZ for his last contract at age 35 or 36, but I doubt he wants to toil in relative obscurity, sans playoffs, for the last 10 years of his career.

 

[ACC1224]

I could see him going back to AZ for his last contract at age 35 or 36, but I doubt he wants to toil in relative obscurity, sans playoffs, for the last 10 years of his career.

It's doubtful they'll have a team by then.

 

[Martin Skoula]

I could see him going back to AZ for his last contract at age 35 or 36, but I doubt he wants to toil in relative obscurity, sans playoffs, for the last 10 years of his career.

Not to mention he would have to give up any notion of signing bonuses or even getting paid the correct amount on time.

 

[The Podium]

Bump!

Made top 10, 16 back on 9th. Does he make it this season?

 

[Maplebeasts]

Bump!
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Made top 10, 16 back on 9th. Does he make it this season?

If he's healthy he might even pass Wendel.

 

[Teeder Keon]

Career Goals Per Game, Centers (min 200gms)

1. M.Lemieux (1985-2006): 0.75 (915gms)
2. A.Matthews (2017-2021): 0.60 (358gms)
3. W.Gretzky (1980-1999): 0.60 (1487gms)

Man Mario was good , real good …
Better than 99 if he didn’t have health challenges…..
Even if they were tied , Big Mario wins on sheer size and strength and shot power ….

 

[Teeder Keon]

Bump!
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Made top 10, 16 back on 9th. Does he make it this season?

Pretty good top 10 eh

 

[Burnie97]

Is this good???