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Ghoul hits at the same rate as Provorov. Less than multiple players. A little more than MacDonald though lol.
Don't forget Miles Wood.I would field a team of 17 Tkachuks and a clone of Bernie Federko if it gave me a better chance to win.
WHY I OUTTA"Your Wells Fargo Check of the Game, Robert Hagg with a huge hit on x player. What a hit eh Jonesy?" - JJ
"You betcha. Hagg with a textbook finish on that hit. You see him laying out x player" - Jonesy
Repeat this 71 more time this season.
Quality post!Don't forget Miles Wood.
Don't forget Miles Wood.
Quality post!
Ghoul hits at the same rate as Provorov. Less than multiple players. A little more than MacDonald though lol.
"Your Wells Fargo Check of the Game, Robert Hagg with a huge hit on x player. What a hit eh Jonesy?" - JJ
"You betcha. Hagg with a textbook finish on that hit. You see him laying out x player" - Jonesy
Repeat this 71 more time this season.
No he doesn't, unless you are going by game.
1.7 hits per game.
He doesn't get more per game because he sucks too badly to play. Cant hit from the bench after all.
1.7 hits per game.
He doesn't get more per game because he sucks too badly to play. Cant hit from the bench after all.
Would you say that a guy who scores 20 goals while averaging 6 minutes a game scores at the same "rate" as someone who scores 20 goals while averaging over 20 minutes a game?
Nobody who scores 20 goals with only six minutes of ice time would continue to get six minutes of ice time. Their ice time would increase, since scoring goals is how you win.
Ghoul doesn't get to hit more because he is bad at hockey. Hits don't win like goals do. Totally different scenarios.
Avoided the question. No shock.
The question doesn't make sense. Goals aren't comparable to hits. The question fails fundamentally.
Someone who is great at scoring goals will get to play more. Someone who hits and doesn't do anything else? Nope. In turn, that means they get minimal opportunity to do the one minor thing they can do. Their impact is minimized to the point where they don't even stand out on the team for hitting since their hit totals are so low.
Get back to me when he's good enough to play real minutes and actually wear a team down. Until that happens he's useless. 1.7 hits per game isn't worth the liability across the board he otherwise brings.
You said, and I quote, "Ghoul hits at the same rate as Provorov." I said you must be rating "rate" on games rather than the rate of hits per ice time. Was I wrong? Yes or no?
Still avoiding the question.Rate per game is what matters. Recall, the discussion was about the impact that Ghoul would have upon games with his hitting. Therefore, pointing out his net hits on a per-game rate rather than by ice time is the proper way to assess.
His impact is small.
Still avoiding the question.
The question doesn't make sense. Goals aren't comparable to hits. The question fails fundamentally.
Someone who is great at scoring goals will get to play more. Someone who hits and doesn't do anything else? Nope. In turn, that means they get minimal opportunity to do the one minor thing they can do. Their impact is minimized to the point where they don't even stand out on the team for hitting since their hit totals are so low.
Get back to me when he's good enough to play real minutes and actually wear a team down. Until that happens he's useless. 1.7 hits per game isn't worth the liability across the board he otherwise brings.
Be mindful were talking 4th liners here. If these were guys capable of scoring theyd be higher up in the lineup. Ideally they'd excel at the pk and see minutes there but 6 to 8 minutes of enthusiasm brought on by being aggressive on the forecheck demonstrated by hits is one of the things you want to see. That and a solid posession game. Im not arguing hes the next mike raffl but as far as replacement level utility guys go hes not completely useless. Theres definitely slower guys playing ahead of him. Part of me thinks pigeonholing him because he fights might be a poor reflection on hakstol.
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