At this rate, players are going to start refusing to touch the Stanley Cup so they can show the world that they are already focused on next season.

[Marshmallow Man]

The total stupidity of this league with players refusing to touch trophies and now refusing to accept trophies has turned into a bad joke.

Might as well just refuse to accept the Stanley Cup, so you can virtue-signal to the world how serious you are about focusing on next season.

That is the level of stupidity we've reached with this sport.

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[MadLuke]

What to be happy about ?, job not finish until we repeat.

 

[EdmFlyersfan]

McDavid lacked class and sportsmanship by not accepting the Conn Smythe award, very shallow and telling of his leadership qualities.

Ron Hextall accepted it after the '87 loss vs Oilers (end of video)

 

[tabness]

McDavid lacked class and sportsmanship by not accepting the Conn Smythe award, very shallow and telling of his leadership qualities.

Ron Hextall accepted it after the '87 loss vs Oilers (end of video)

It was the best thing he did that game, shows that he's serious about winning the cup, much better look than Ron Hextall going pantless on live TV when being interviewed about his Connsolation Smythe

 

[BayStBullies]

What a stupid thread. He just lost the cup after trying to carry the entire team. He wasn't in the spirit to hang around to smile for the cameras to "virtue signal" to you.

 

[tny760]

dubois leading the way by refusing to even play the regular season in order to focus on not playing the next one

 

[Marshmallow Man]

It was the best thing he did that game, shows that he's serious about winning the cup, much better look than Ron Hextall going pantless on live TV when being interviewed about his Connsolation Smythe

Who is he showing that to?

Are the Panthers not serious about repeating as champs next season?

What a stupid thread. He just lost the cup after trying to carry the entire team. He wasn't in the spirit to hang around to smile for the cameras to "virtue signal" to you.

Doesn't matter what spirit you are in. You should act like a man and be a good sport.

I bet lost of players aren't in the mood to shake hands after a game, but (thankfully) they still respect the tradition, win or lose.

 

[innitfam]

What a stupid thread. He just lost the cup after trying to carry the entire team. He wasn't in the spirit to hang around to smile for the cameras to "virtue signal" to you.

All he has to do is accept the trophy and then leave the ice.

 

[tabness]

Who is he showing that to?

Are the Panthers not serious about repeating as champs next season?


Doesn't matter what spirit you are in. You should act like a man and be a good sport.

I bet lost of players aren't in the mood to shake hands after a game, but (thankfully) they still respect the tradition, win or lose.

Making an equivalence of the Stanley Cup and Conn Smythe doesn't make sense, one is a team trophy the other is a individual trophy. I personally enjoyed it when Yzerman not just touched but celebrated all four times with the Campbell Conference trophy in 1995/1997/1998/2002, and I didn't necessarily agree when Lidstrom and Zetterberg didn't in 2008/2009.

That though is a very different situation from staying out/coming back on the ice during the winners celebration to take the Conn Smythe lol

It was awkward and while McDavid definitely deserved it, if you going to give it to a player on the losing team, do it another way, like hand it to them in their lockerroom and make an announcement or something lol

 

[smytty]

This thread is peak HFB....

Put yourself on his position. Are you going to go out and accept a meaningless trophy so you can become a meme of sad Connor, then bring that individual award back to your team's locker room? Or are you going to stay with your team that you battled with all season.

You're right you are option A. Congrats.

 

[Marshmallow Man]

Making an equivalence of the Stanley Cup and Conn Smythe doesn't make sense, one is a team trophy the other is a individual trophy. I personally enjoyed it when Yzerman not just touched but celebrated all four times with the Campbell Conference trophy in 1995/1997/1998/2002, and I didn't necessarily agree when Lidstrom and Zetterberg didn't in 2008/2009.

That though is a very different situation from staying out/coming back on the ice during the winners celebration to take the Conn Smythe lol

Your point was that he specifically refused to accept the trophy so he could show everyone how serious he is about winning the Cup next season.

By that same logic, shouldn't the Panthers have left the ice right after the game so they could show the world how serious they are about repeating next year?

 

[Dust]

It was awesome and I hope the next person does the same.

 

[Marshmallow Man]

This thread is peak HFB....

Put yourself on his position. Are you going to go out and accept a meaningless trophy so you can become a meme of sad Connor, then bring that individual award back to your team's locker room? Or are you going to stay with your team that you battled with all season.

You're right you are option A. Congrats.

100% yes I am. Because I understand the league, the game, my team, and franchise are bigger than me and my selfish feelings in the moment.

HUGE difference in being disappointed, and refusing to accept trophies or shake hands with the winning team.

Being a man means sometimes doing things you might not want to do in the moment.

 

[tabness]

Your point was that he specifically refused to accept the trophy so he could show everyone how serious he is about winning the Cup next season.

By that same logic, shouldn't the Panthers have left the ice right after the game so they could show the world how serious they are about repeating next year?

Yes, I too would not want an MVP award when my team lost, especially when I didn't play very well in the deciding game. It isn't about him showing off, just that the action showed what his priorities are (you have fans here who literally get more excited about stats and trophies than winning).

Again, I don't think your analogy is hitting as hard as you think it is in this case. It makes more sense with the Campbell and Wales conference trophies (and yeah, if I was in the position as captain I would celebrate those)

 

[Mike C]

This thread is peak HFB....

Put yourself on his position. Are you going to go out and accept a meaningless trophy so you can become a meme of sad Connor, then bring that individual award back to your team's locker room? Or are you going to stay with your team that you battled with all season.

You're right you are option A. Congrats.

If he did go out and accept it, everyone would call him a selfish guy who only cared about individual accolades. I'm not the guy's biggest fan but it seems to me all some people want to do is critique the guy negatively no matter what he does

 

[Marshmallow Man]

Yes, I too would not want an MVP award when my team lost, especially when I didn't play very well in the deciding game. It isn't about him showing off, just that the action showed what his priorities are (you have fans here who literally get more excited about stats and trophies than winning).

Again, I don't think your analogy is hitting as hard as you think it is in this case. It makes more sense with the Campbell and Wales conference trophies (and yeah, if I was in the position as captain I would celebrate those)

You have to explain your inconsistency. Are the Panthers not showing their lack of dedication to repeating next season by celebrating with the Cup?

By your own logic, they should have stormed off the ice and refused to participate.

 

[tny760]

If he did go out and accept it, everyone would call him a selfish guy who only cared about individual accolades. I'm not the guy's biggest fan but it seems to me all some people want to do is critique the guy negatively no matter what he does

ehhhhh i don't see that happening

i think he probably could've stood to go out there for the presentation even if he left it on the table or something. i probably wouldn't enjoy dragging it back to my losing locker room but i think you should honor the presentation

 

[tarheelhockey]

The guy just got his heart ripped out and had to go through the handshake line after watching the opponent celebrate. He’s going to face a media firing line for the rest of the summer and regret this game the rest of his life.

On top of that he’s supposed to come back out of the room minutes after getting off the ice, when he’s probably on the verge of tears in his stall, and go back out there and accept a consolation prize in another team’s arena while that team is hugging and giving championship interviews?

Why? Just let the man be.

 

[tabness]

You have to explain your inconsistency. Are the Panthers not showing their lack of dedication to repeating next season by celebrating with the Cup?

By your own logic, they should have stormed off the ice and refused to participate.

You're having difficulty understanding my position in your view of things because you are making an equivocation between a team award and an individual award whereas I do not.

It isn't something that bothers me whatsoever. I totally get why a player would refuse to show up for an award, either at the awards show or the Conn Smythe, for really any small reason (especially one as awkward as being on the losing team with the winning team celebrating the cup, rather than going with my own team in the locker room) whereas say if a player didn't join his team on the ice to celebrate the cup for some non legit reason like "they were focused on the next year" yes that makes no sense to me.

It would even make more sense to call this out if the Oilers won and McDavid didn't accept the trophy, but I am just totally not with you here, for the lack of equivocation reason above.

 

[tny760]

when he’s probably on the verge of tears in his stall

mcdavidbot 1.0 is not programmed for tears

 

[HaNotsri]

What a stupid thread. He just lost the cup after trying to carry the entire team. He wasn't in the spirit to hang around to smile for the cameras to "virtue signal" to you.

He's not very good at hiding his disappointment. Remember the draft lottery?
Smart move this time.

 

[ViD]

McDavid lacked class and sportsmanship by not accepting the Conn Smythe award, very shallow and telling of his leadership qualities.

Ron Hextall accepted it after the '87 loss vs Oilers (end of video)

Wasn’t he a rookie back then ? Would’ve been too damn arrogant for a rookie to refuse to accept it

 

[DearDiary]

McDavid would be trending across all social media if he came out. Tears on his face exiting onto the ice, fans taunting him and then coming face to face with Bettmans smile. Then the media photos come with the Panthers celebrating in the background. 20 years from now people would still be posting it as a meme.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

You think McDavid could bend the Oilers over a barrel if he wanted; like make demands or threaten to ask for a trade?

 

[Marshmallow Man]

You're having difficulty understanding my position in your view of things because you are making an equivocation between a team award and an individual award whereas I do not.

It isn't something that bothers me whatsoever. I totally get why a player would refuse to show up for an award, either at the awards show or the Conn Smythe, for really any small reason (especially one as awkward as being on the losing team with the winning team celebrating the cup, rather than going with my own team in the locker room) whereas say if a player didn't join his team on the ice to celebrate the cup for some non legit reason like "they were focused on the next year" yes that makes no sense to me.

It would even make more sense to call this out if the Oilers won and McDavid didn't accept the trophy, but I am just totally not with you here, for the lack of equivocation reason above.

All I'm asking for is consistency in your argument.

Yes or no, do you prove to the world how serious you are about winning by refusing to accept trophies?

What difference does it make if it's a team trophy (which they are also refusing to accept) or an individual one?

How difficult is it to just accept a f*cking trophy?

McDavid would be trending across all social media if he came out. Tears on his face exiting onto the ice, fans taunting him and then coming face to face with Bettmans smile. Then the media photos come with the Panthers celebrating in the background. 20 years from now people would still be posting it as a meme.

Yes, this thing that didn't happen and never would have happened is a certainty.

Why not just claim a Florida fan would have run on the ice and killed McDavid if you are going to make up fake scenarios?