As a fan what is your "Realistic" expectation for next season? What you want?

[zeke]

I like that you think this means something.

True it's not much compared to @keonsbitterness posts.

 

[keonsbitterness]

True it's not much compared to @keonsbitterness posts.

By that logic, your posts are all meaningless.

I'd never say that.

 

[zeke]

By that logic, your posts are all meaningless.

I'd never say that.

wouldn't you, tho?

 

[keonsbitterness]

wouldn't you, tho?

I just said I wouldn't.

 

[Racer88]

Yup what better news for Leaf nation than a Dubas extension. LOL.

That would be so depressing. It would be a simple case of F you to leaf nation by Shanny

 

[acrobaticgoalie]

I don't think we can set expectations until we know what the roster is going to look like. We're likely going to have 4-5 new forwards, maybe 1-2 different D men and 1 or possibly 2 new goalies.

 

[PromisedLand]

That would be so depressing. It would be a simple case of F you to leaf nation by Shanny

If I was allowed by cosmic entity I'd freakin' riot lol

 

[Blowfish]

Yup its a summer thread!

Once again Leafs have gotten knocked out in the 1st round.

Just charting out some ideas about pros and cons:

Pros

• Team hasn't missed playoffs for 6 years in a row
• Team continuously in a race for first in the division
• Had the best regular season (10 pt increment from the one under Lou/Babs)
• Matthews won Hart, Lindsay and Rocket
• Technically still have a goalie signed (Mrazek); so not going in blind
• Wings, Habs and Sabres potentially still not in the race
• Management: Shanahan, Dubas, Keefe (according to some posters)

Cons

• No #1G, No true #1D
• Cap allocation still baffling (three guys with 11 AAV contracts)
• Matthews, Marner, Nylander have NTCs/NMCs kick in at the end of next season
  • Matthews and Nylander will be pending UFAs in 2023-2024 season
  • Marner and Tavares pending UFAs in 2024-2025 season
• No quality depth pieces available
• Sens probably the only non-playoff team that might see significant improvement
  • Dark horse: Habs -> b/c MSL is awesome and Price maybe back full time and can potentially turn their season
• Tampa is bound to lose Palat next season but can potentially ice the same roster as they have now
  • About same for Panthers
• Management: Shanahan, Dubas, Keefe (according to some posters)
  • Justin Holl (yes he is a freakin' CON)

Where do you see the Leafs? Whats your realistic expectation? What do you want them to do?

Sabres could do some damage next year...Deep/quality draft 3 first round picks in 2022 and early 2nd round pick...Thank you Eichel.

 

[Kazparov]

Actually thought this year was a good year for us. Team was not a dumpster fire defensively for the most part. Big step forward from our top players led by Matty obviously. Put together a decent 3rd line at times. PP and PK was much much better than years previous. Young D made some steps toward being everyday defensmen. And in the Playoffs they showed grit and determination which also was lacking. Lost to a very good team in TB in a tough series.

So I expect more of the same good regular season, playoffs and roll the dice.

Biggest concern specifically around goal right now.

 

[Nineteen67]

Does anyone have the preseason odds handy from last year?

Last year they were around 15:1 ~5th highest. If you recall, even the Toronto media soured on them after the FA signings, so they got a little more enticing odds.

 

[egd27]

I expect there will be somewhere between 86 and 89 games to watch next season (pre season excluded).

 

[Nineteen67]

That would be so depressing. It would be a simple case of F you to leaf nation by Shanny

They sold Tannenbaum a few weeks ago, and that’s all that matters.

 

[Nineteen67]

Actually thought this year was a good year for us. Team was not a dumpster fire defensively for the most part. Big step forward from our top players led by Matty obviously. Put together a decent 3rd line at times. PP and PK was much much better than years previous. Young D made some steps toward being everyday defensmen. And in the Playoffs they showed grit and determination which also was lacking. Lost to a very good team in TB in a tough series.

So I expect more of the same good regular season, playoffs and roll the dice.

Biggest concern specifically around goal right now.

They need to be better than last season and they need:
Goalie
1st or 2nd line winger
Shore up 3rd and 4th lines
Shore up defensive depth

 

[zeke]

That would be so depressing. It would be a simple case of F you to leaf nation by Shanny

The one thing that Leafs ownership has had the hardest thing doing in my lifetime is saying F you to the call-in radio set.

Thank god we finally have leadership that can do it.

 

[ShaneFalco]

The one thing that Leafs ownership has had the hardest thing doing in my lifetime is saying F you to the call-in radio set.

Thank god we finally have leadership that can do it.

Stats and "leadership" matter. Results do not

 

[ACC1224]

Stats and "leadership" matter. Results do not

I'd prefer they care more about what happens on the ice than what's said on the radio.
Explains a lot though.

 

[ShaneFalco]

I'd prefer they care more about what happens on the ice than what's said on the radio.
Explains a lot though.

They're too busy patting themselves on the back

 

[Racer88]

The one thing that Leafs ownership has had the hardest thing doing in my lifetime is saying F you to the call-in radio set.

Thank god we finally have leadership that can do it.

Just because they can say no to the fans doesn’t mean they can do the job

 

[Stephen]

The one thing that Leafs ownership has had the hardest thing doing in my lifetime is saying F you to the call-in radio set.

Thank god we finally have leadership that can do it.

If that's their biggest accomplishment, we're in a bit of trouble.

 

[The Masters]

thank god this guy stinks

 

[zeke]

If that's their biggest accomplishment, we're in a bit of trouble.

Their biggest accomplishment so far is the best regular season in team history.

Not enough, but it's a start.

Not listening to the call in radio set will make sure they keep on the right track, unlike all the other leafs regimes in my lifetime.

 

[ACC1224]

Just because they can say no to the fans doesn’t mean they can do the job

The only time I can recall them listening to the fans was when Burke fired Ron Wilson.
Perhaps they should listen more often?

What they've been doing is obviously not working.

 

[ShaneFalco]

Florida wins the president's trophy and fires their coach because they wanted someone more experienced to take them to the next level. And they won a round.
Management and some fans praise our coach who can't get by the first round or fix the PP in the playoffs, or adapt to clogging up center, because we're 10 points better in the regular season than 4 years ago,

 

[Stephen]

Their biggest accomplishment so far is the best regular season in team history.

Not enough, but it's a start.

Not listening to the call in radio set will make sure they keep on the right track, unlike all the other leafs regimes in my lifetime.

Yeah, but the freak shows on the radio were always just reacting to bad management decisions, they didn't actually force the franchise to do anything during those Fletcher, Quinn, Burke, Nonis, eras. This era has been a lot better and gives us the foundation to be a serious contender year after year though, so that is an improvement.

 

[ACC1224]

Speaks volumes that they are terrified of announcing the GM's extension.