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Friedman: Arvidsson and Henrique have previously unreported NMC's, will make moves more difficult for EDM
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Empoleon8771
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I don't understand why so many NHL teams hand out NTCs and NMCs to unremarkable players.
Because not giving them out means huge premiums that can be difficult to fit under the cap.
NMC/NTC's are "free" from a cap perspective and get you a significant discount. GMs don't plan for the future. They have relatively short shelf lives.
As fans, we always plan for the future... but coaches and GMs plan to win now. Later is the next guy's problem.
VanillaCoke
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How to ruin two top three players in the world, a master class of incompetence, co authored by Ken, Pete, and Stan.
What a hilarious disaster.
What a hilarious disaster.
Arthur Morgan
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helps signing the guys they wanna sign, prob shouldnt just hand em out like candy but u know they do anyways
Also said they were looking at moving Kane, who would only waive for a contender. LMAO
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Didn't something similar happen a few years ago with Ottawa? They weren't aware a player on their roster had a No Trade List and traded him to a team on that list?
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33 year old LTIR, 5m per, locker room cancer, full NMC. I wish them luck.
The Gr8 Dane
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Worst management in hockey for like 10 years
Only good move since drafting McDavid and DrySandle was getting Ekholm . Sad
Still perennially picking bottom 5/top 10 without McJesus saving the franchise
Only good move since drafting McDavid and DrySandle was getting Ekholm . Sad
Still perennially picking bottom 5/top 10 without McJesus saving the franchise
Dumped Foegele/McLeod/Holloway/Broberg so they could sign this washed-up Arvidsson/Skinner/Henrique group. Absolutely hilarious.
I half disagree, the shelf life on GM’s are actually quite long. Also bowman just got there, he’s not going anywhere for another 5 yrs plus. It’s coaches that have a short life span with a team. The gm just presses the fire gm button, see Boston, they have done it twice in the last 4 years and both won the jack adams! Lol
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...it happened with Dodonov in Vegas...they "didn't know" that he had a partial NTC when they got him from Ottawa and then tried to trade him to Anaheim, which was on his list...
BLNY
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If guaranteed money from a contending team isn't enough for guys in the twilight of their careers, move on. There's always other fish.
Average NHL GM tenure is 5.5 years. Signing guys to long contracts with NTC/NMC will probably not be their problem.
Oilslick941611
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No. The team is fully aware of the contracts. It just wasn’t public knowledge.
In ottawas case they disputed the ntc because the player may or may not have submitted the list in time.
In either case no one “forgot” the clauses existed.
Empoleon8771
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Idk if you can't afford to overpay a 3rd liner or #4 defenseman without giving them a NMC, you probably just shouldn't pay that guy.
That was Dadonov and it lead to the Vegas thing with Anaheim for which Ottawa was punished... despite him being Vegas' responsibility when they tried to move his salary.
Gaylord Q Tinkledink
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Because they think about it now.
When they first were being handed out yoy got one in exchange for taking less, but now you get more money AND that
Arthur Morgan
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it just doesn't work that way, players dont wanna sign if they dont have to and question if they will have to move, they sign and get these NTC for their families.
blame the GMs, they are the ones that offer them and honestly I dont blame them, being a contender is great and all but people want their families taken care of more. and there's also limited available players in FA so offer NTC or high chance you lose that player
...easier for Buttman to punish a small market Canadian team than his new baby...
KingsFan7824
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Talent is too scarce. Owners may win in the CBA, but in individual negotiations, if you're a wanted player, you have the leverage. And a team like Edmonton is desperate to win with McDavid, so they'll do whatever in the moment, to try and get even a half step closer right now.
If it happens so often around the league, many GMs, many players, then it's just part of doing business at this point.
Dionysus
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Are the teams that traded them to the Oilers going to get a 1st round pick taken away?
