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[AtlantaWhaler]

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Well Boston has impressively mismanaged their goalie situation.

Yes and no. If they wanted to bring other guys in they had no choice but to go ahead and trade Ullmark. It may have cost them some negotiating leverage, but as time goes by the leverage Swayman has gets less and less. As much as the team might like to have him in net they also know he isn't going to give up this season. It would take one heck of an overpay to make up for a year of lost earnings.

I suspect you will see Boston make an offer they are happy with, and they won't come off of it all the way until December 1. At that point Swayman either signs it or loses whatever he would have gained by getting a larger contract.

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[Porter Stoutheart]

I dunno, they saved what, $2M by moving Ullmark? (His $5M hit, but replacing it with Korpisalo at $3M). That's not a lot of Cap saved. I mean, they're paying Andrew Peake $2.75M, went out and signed Zadorov and Lindholm, etc... it just seems to me that there might have been better ways to try to shave away a mere $2M.

I could see if they were going to be so stuck on the Cap that they needed to clear a full $5M and if giving up their insurance in goal was the only way to do it... but in the end, it seems like maybe they were more "accommodating Ullmark's wishes" rather than really solving their own problems in an ideal fashion? It's nice of them to give Ullmark a place to go and be a starting goalie. But I'm surprised they were that generous.

 

[AtlantaWhaler]

 

[Armourboy]

I dunno, they saved what, $2M by moving Ullmark? (His $5M hit, but replacing it with Korpisalo at $3M). That's not a lot of Cap saved. I mean, they're paying Andrew Peake $2.75M, went out and signed Zadorov and Lindholm, etc... it just seems to me that there might have been better ways to try to shave away a mere $2M.

I could see if they were going to be so stuck on the Cap that they needed to clear a full $5M and if giving up their insurance in goal was the only way to do it... but in the end, it seems like maybe they were more "accommodating Ullmark's wishes" rather than really solving their own problems in an ideal fashion? It's nice of them to give Ullmark a place to go and be a starting goalie. But I'm surprised they were that generous.

Yeah but they also got a back up goalie in that too. I mean even a guy like Lankinen is going to be about 2 million, so they saved pretty much what they could. Whether it was alot of savings or not it was enough to fit in what they needed too. Someone isn't getting signed without it.

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

Yeah but they also got a back up goalie in that too. I mean even a guy like Lankinen is going to be about 2 million, so they saved pretty much what they could. Whether it was alot of savings or not it was enough to fit in what they needed too. Someone isn't getting signed without it.

My impression had been that folks in Boston were pretty satisfied with Bussi's readiness for the backup job, and that they were more "forced" to take Korpisalo back to make the deal work for Ottawa, though, so they didn't necessarily have any big costs otherwise to fill the backup goalie job.

 

[herzausstein]

My impression had been that folks in Boston were pretty satisfied with Bussi's readiness for the backup job, and that they were more "forced" to take Korpisalo back to make the deal work for Ottawa, though, so they didn't necessarily have any big costs otherwise to fill the backup goalie job.

Yeh Bussi is 26. It is time for him to move into the NHL if he is ever going to do it.

It isnt like Korpisalo has been decent either. He was actively costing Ottawa games last season. Now theyre attached to him for 3 seasons unless they buy him out.

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

Sweet. The more the merrier.

#NomoreCanadian teams
#Keepitat7

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

Sweet. The more the merrier.

#NomoreCanadian teams
#Keepitat7

Another factor for us in getting Askarov traded away. Since we have to keep Saros no matter what, we were likely going to lose Askarov in Expansion even if he had been willing to stay here (and had panned out as an NHL player).

 

[herzausstein]

Another factor for us in getting Askarov traded away. Since we have to keep Saros no matter what, we were likely going to lose Askarov in Expansion even if he had been willing to stay here (and had panned out as an NHL player).

This is true. Though maybe if we couldve gotten him more NHL time it might if boosted his value. Then again knowing he had to be traded might of reduced it. Also, i think we got a pretty strong return anyways.

 

[herzausstein]

FWIW

https://x.com/i/web/status/1836791737605292184

I do wonder if he become hindered with injury issues. Feel like he had a few in his short time here as well.

 

[PredsV82]

FWIW

https://x.com/i/web/status/1836791737605292184

I do wonder if he become hindered with injury issues. Feel like he had a few in his short time here as well.

Wonder if this is the same injury he got in the playoffs last year that hasn't resolved properly?

 

[PredsV82]

Hey @AtlantaWhaler will we lose you if Atlanta gets another team? I'm cool with losing you know who(looking forward to it actually) but we need you here

 

[herzausstein]

Lankinen went a bit cheaper than i thought he would

 

[Predsanddead24]

Lankinen went a bit cheaper than i thought he would

Im sure we wanted to cement the backup position but would’ve preferred him back at that contract compared to Wedgewood.

 

[Armourboy]

Im sure we wanted to cement the backup position but would’ve preferred him back at that contract compared to Wedgewood.

Only reason they got him that cheap was because he had no choice. If he would have taken it in July he would still be here.

I'm also not sure he would have agreed to go to the AHL either at that point. I mean if you believe Trotz, Askarov was supposed to be the backup with Wedgewood just being an insurance policy.

 

[PredsV82]

Glad Lanky found a landing spot, wish is wasn't with the Canucks

 

[NSH615]

Only reason they got him that cheap was because he had no choice. If he would have taken it in July he would still be here.

I'm also not sure he would have agreed to go to the AHL either at that point. I mean if you believe Trotz, Askarov was supposed to be the backup with Wedgewood just being an insurance policy.

I'm pretty sure he was specifically looking for more games and that's why he looked to leave here.

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

I think Lankinen wanted term and $$$. He probably wanted at least to stick at the same salary as last year with us, i.e. $2M, but with a little more security at 2-3 yrs term. Which was just a tad too rich for us. Just barely. When we offered him the Wedgewood deal, he wanted to keep looking. So we had to offer Wedgewood the Wedgewood deal in parallel, because we couldn't risk not having somebody. And Wedgewood took it. And Lankinen didn't find a better deal elsewhere. Which left him as the last man standing when the music stopped on the free agent goalie carousel.

But good for him that an injury opened up another door. Albeit it's a lot less than he would have gotten here. Hopefully he has a good season and a good experience so that he earns more of those future years after this one, because otherwise he/his agent probably cost him $2.125M... which is a lot in his circumstances.

 

[Gnashville]

Hey @AtlantaWhaler will we lose you if Atlanta gets another team? I'm cool with losing you know who(looking forward to it actually) but we need you here

What you don’t like Auston Matthews to Nashville for Gunnerwolf Fontaine trade proposals?

 

[AtlantaWhaler]

Hey @AtlantaWhaler will we lose you if Atlanta gets another team? I'm cool with losing you know who(looking forward to it actually) but we need you here.

Thank you for the kind words. We’re still years away from getting a team. Probably a long time until we even hear about a team. No idea what will happen to me, but I’d think at a minimum it’d be a @Viqsi situation.

For now just super excited to be able to be in Nashville frequently and catch some games.

 

[Viqsi]

Thank you for the kind words. We’re still years away from getting a team. Probably a long time until we even hear about a team. No idea what will happen to me, but I’d think at a minimum it’d be a @Viqsi situation.

For now just super excited to be able to be in Nashville frequently and catch some games.

You'd get to be known as "that dude from Georgia".

Are you in Georgia?

 

[AtlantaWhaler]

You'd get to be known as "that dude from Georgia".

Are you in Georgia?

Yeah, I’m in Atlanta. Got a new jobby about 2 months ago with Nashville as my primary market. Should be there several days a month.

I love that you still have that quoted…lol

 

[Armourboy]

Am I the only one looking at Bouchard for the Oilers and wondering just exactly why in gods name I would pay a RFA that has had one good season 10 million plus per when I could just go another year or two and make sure it wasn't just one heck of a season?

 

[herzausstein]

Am I the only one looking at Bouchard for the Oilers and wondering just exactly why in gods name I would pay a RFA that has had one good season 10 million plus per when I could just go another year or two and make sure it wasn't just one heck of a season?

All he really needs to do is point at nurse and say "yall gave him 9.25 million in 2022 which was 11.21% of the cap at the time. Im better than him but Ill discount you to 11.21% of next seasons cap of say 90 million which puts my contract around 10.08 million a season"

 

[Armourboy]

All he really needs to do is point at nurse and say "yall gave him 9.25 million in 2022 which was 11.21% of the cap at the time. Im better than him but Ill discount you to 11.21% of next seasons cap of say 90 million which puts my contract around 10.08 million a season"

Yeah and then I look at him and say, " making one mistake doesn't mean we should make another ". I'm fine with paying guys, but I'd sure as heck want to make sure they had shown me over multiple years before I did it.

Taking a chance on a guy and locking them up early is generally about saving money in the long term, aka Ekholm. They are locking him up early and seeing no benefit, its all gamble.

Speaking of Ekholm, if I'm giving a Dman that I'd want to feel real comfortable knowing he is the 1D and not the guy strapped to him. We learned a long time ago, Ekholm can damn near make anyone look good.